[NPE] ASILAPOMPA3000 Players 46 posts Report post #1 Posted September 3, 2016 After updating the game can not be win Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ALONE] Smeggo Modder 2,485 posts 15,343 battles Report post #2 Posted September 3, 2016 Not tougher, just use different tactics than on PvP. If you stay in the back on domination, they will cap fast and you loose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NPE] ASILAPOMPA3000 Players 46 posts Report post #3 Posted September 3, 2016 In the past Destroyed 3-5 ships, and now just 1-2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCinC Quality Poster 1,695 posts 9,500 battles Report post #4 Posted September 3, 2016 In the past Destroyed 3-5 ships, and now just 1-2. Sounds like a real challenge.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXx_Blogis_xXx Alpha Tester, Players 5,335 posts 35,510 battles Report post #5 Posted September 3, 2016 not even sure who plays coop ,lol 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #6 Posted September 3, 2016 WG is working on e-peen enlargement pills for PVE players! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NPE] ASILAPOMPA3000 Players 46 posts Report post #7 Posted September 3, 2016 not even sure who plays coop ,lol o Lietuviu yra Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_EFwxJOPWzlER Players 1,473 posts Report post #8 Posted September 3, 2016 not even sure who plays coop ,lol True, i have not played co-op for a long time, sometime last year i think. Maybe it's time i popped over to co-op to see what all the fuss is about Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXx_Blogis_xXx Alpha Tester, Players 5,335 posts 35,510 battles Report post #9 Posted September 3, 2016 o Lietuviu yra Aha yra True, i have not played co-op for a long time, sometime last year i think. Maybe it's time i popped over to co-op to see what all the fuss is about agree , last time did play in alpha coop lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JiksTBS Players 255 posts 13,157 battles Report post #10 Posted September 3, 2016 After updating the game can not be win OP - Is the problem that half your team are now bots? If so this is because WG changed the max queue time from 90 to 30 seconds. If you play higher tier ships in co-op the best bet is to play them during peak time which usually avoids the problem If it's not that, I've got nothing. Perhaps you are just having run of bad form ... I must confess I like a spot of co-op myself, mainly to get ships upgraded. I hate taking stock ships out in Random battle and am too tight to spend any of my 200K+ free XP I've built up. Also, it's useful for learning enemy ship capabilities IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] OldGrandad Supertester 3,404 posts 35,711 battles Report post #11 Posted September 3, 2016 After updating the game can not be win The problem lies with you, the bots are still dumb-[edited], either rushing in or camping. Credit for whining about losing to bots though. As Jiks says above, max wait time has been reduced to 30 seconds which is far too short so inevitably at higher tiers will lead to bots being added to a team. And with that they battle with the behaviour I said above, all or nothing. Damn, just realised it is a weekend......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
havaduck ∞ Players 2,989 posts 11,824 battles Report post #12 Posted September 3, 2016 (edited) not even sure who plays coop ,lol I do, a lot. Eg when extremely tired, or wanting to try stuff, or even just because I cant stand the sewer that is random team anymore. And before the usual bashing starts: I ve got 2/3 of my games in pvp with good enough results and my profile is not hidden. (So everybody bashing co-op players and having worse stats than one might consider un-installing? ) OP only does own up to T 6 ships - so high tiers are not the case. @ The OP: I didnt notice any change, beside me playing the crappy Bayern; and that ship simply has very bad offensive capabilities even in co-op. Edited September 3, 2016 by havaduck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Acetessigester Beta Tester 237 posts 19,475 battles Report post #13 Posted September 3, 2016 There is no change on PVE since 0.5.7.0. I think AI is doing better than many players. But it should still be improved on dodge of shells and selecting of target. By the way, any news about the new PVE mode now? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #14 Posted September 3, 2016 (edited) Bayern; and that ship simply has very bad offensive capabilities even in co-op. You are averaging 84k dmg in pvp with Bayern...wtf do you want at tier 6? Stop bashing poor Bayern Edited September 3, 2016 by aboomination Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
havaduck ∞ Players 2,989 posts 11,824 battles Report post #15 Posted September 3, 2016 (edited) You are averaging 84k dmg in pvp with Bayern...wtf do you want at tier 6? After 5 pvp games Aboo, after 5 games! (Wanna compare the Co-op results with all the Kongo-Variants, that are a whole tier lower?) The last two were very good and pushed said average. Had I had a Fuso or a NM (Or hell even NY and Kongo) in those the result would have even been at least 1/3 higher ...... Also you might consider that I have 75 k avg damage in NM - but after 146 games .... The problems stems from seeing what this ship "can do" in co-op and in trainingroom, but you know I already did that objective<->subjective thing allready over here: http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/60510-so-german-bbs-are-not-meant-for-long-range-combat/page__st__40 So far you have to search and will never find me asking for a buff of that ship; but you will certainly find me calling it Seacancer. The wet dream about the Bayern would be putting 4 of those Kongo/NY-turrets on her -> unstoppable. This one sums up trying to use Bayern guns (on a broadside, straightlining oblivious target - just like in the video); has even a small rage-quit (how realistic!) and at the end it even covers what happens when you go closer to point blank range ..... Edited September 3, 2016 by havaduck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NPE] ASILAPOMPA3000 Players 46 posts Report post #16 Posted September 3, 2016 Which server is easy to play ? eu , na , ru , asia ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NPE] ASILAPOMPA3000 Players 46 posts Report post #17 Posted September 3, 2016 Nice , Co-op battle enemy ships is Premium ships 8 tier vs 6 tier NewMexico , FAIL !\ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Fear_Of_All_Sums Players 257 posts 358 battles Report post #18 Posted September 3, 2016 Nice , Co-op battle enemy ships is Premium ships 8 tier vs 6 tier NewMexico , FAIL !\ You of all people really can't afford to be throwing the "FAIL" insult around Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-OOF-] ollonborre Beta Tester 2,598 posts 12,758 battles Report post #19 Posted September 3, 2016 Nice , Co-op battle enemy ships is Premium ships 8 tier vs 6 tier NewMexico , FAIL !\ And it's exactly the same in PvP? I don't understand why you are complaining to be honest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
havaduck ∞ Players 2,989 posts 11,824 battles Report post #20 Posted September 3, 2016 Nice , Co-op battle enemy ships is Premium ships 8 tier vs 6 tier NewMexico , FAIL !\ Yes, Atago is a p2w boat. No, you should still able to roflstomp him in NM esp. considering fighting in co-op. Keep practising. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MEN] Captain_Singleton Players 3,184 posts 20,102 battles Report post #21 Posted September 3, 2016 i try out new ships in PvE and maybe even until they are upgraded, and no it hasn't changed recently... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NPE] ASILAPOMPA3000 Players 46 posts Report post #22 Posted September 3, 2016 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
havaduck ∞ Players 2,989 posts 11,824 battles Report post #23 Posted September 3, 2016 (edited) Autsch ..... List of "useless" skills on a NM: Last Stand, Expert Rear gunner, Fire prevention. You might want to reconsider those ....... Module Slot 1 + 2 + 4 are questionable as well, but that at least comes down to preferences. Edited September 3, 2016 by havaduck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-OOF-] ollonborre Beta Tester 2,598 posts 12,758 battles Report post #24 Posted September 3, 2016 Expert rear gunner on a New mexico. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JiksTBS Players 255 posts 13,157 battles Report post #25 Posted September 3, 2016 Good spot there, Havaduck! I totally failed to notice the captain skills issue. OP: I would suggest: Basics of Survivability - less time on fire or flooding Expert Marksman - faster turret traverse for brawling Superintendent - extra heal Advanced Firing Training - more range for secondaries & AA Concealment Expert - they can't shoot you if they see you They may well be better builds but that's what I'm using on my New Mexico currently, being something of a noob with BB's myself I like to keep it simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites