[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #51 Posted October 4, 2016 You should buy it in advance... look at it as a loan Probably, I'd benefit more even if I don't hit Rank 1! Got my Blys to a 15 point captain last season with just Ranked Battles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T_H_0_R Players 1,015 posts 4,182 battles Report post #52 Posted October 4, 2016 I took that loan, even though the rate isn't favourable. Other silver camos were rubbish looking. This one at least resembles the Baltic camo. Be it half done... Still hope they will fix it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_EFwxJOPWzlER Players 1,473 posts Report post #53 Posted October 4, 2016 Or we just wait for a Bismarck-camo-mod and get 10 port slots instead. Forget the camo, the Bismarck needs nerfing badly Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #54 Posted October 4, 2016 Forget the camo, the Bismarck needs nerfing badly Shuuusshh not until I've forced my way to Rank 1, then WG can do what they like Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T_H_0_R Players 1,015 posts 4,182 battles Report post #55 Posted October 4, 2016 Forget the camo, the Bismarck needs nerfing badly Yeah... No. Bismarck's fine. There is a reason why it has secondaries and Tirpitz torpedoes = trollish guns. And start a new thread for such comments please. This one is for camo only. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_EFwxJOPWzlER Players 1,473 posts Report post #56 Posted October 4, 2016 Yeah... No. Bismarck's fine. There is a reason why it has secondaries and Tirpitz torpedoes = trollish guns. And start a new thread for such comments please. This one is for camo only. Because you have Bismarck you are biased, it is very OP for it's tier Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #57 Posted October 4, 2016 Because you have Bismarck you are biased, it is very OP for it's tier It is but this is a bit off topic. I love it to bits but that's the last I'll talk about its balance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T_H_0_R Players 1,015 posts 4,182 battles Report post #58 Posted October 4, 2016 Because you have Bismarck you are biased, it is very OP for it's tier I do have it yes. And NC - with which I love killing other Bis/Tirps. Same goes for my Fubuki and Fletcher and Shokaku - love farming damage off them german BBs. Not so much OP but how easy is to play one. And brawling means it is being used properly. Again, start a new thread for this discussion. Please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_EFwxJOPWzlER Players 1,473 posts Report post #59 Posted October 4, 2016 It is but this is a bit off topic. I love it to bits but that's the last I'll talk about its balance. You are so negative Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #60 Posted October 4, 2016 You are so negative if I had a Ranked star everytime I heard that I would be 1 right now 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T_H_0_R Players 1,015 posts 4,182 battles Report post #61 Posted October 5, 2016 Back to the topic. Here is an image of the Bismarck's camo, from the book The Battleship BISMARCK, anatomy of the ship by Jack Brower: - different stripe thickness is clearly visible 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #62 Posted October 5, 2016 I half want to write a ticket to WG and say literally. "WG Y U NO BISMAK RAEL CAMO!?!?" It must have been harder NOT to add the lines on the superstructure of the current camo... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SerPurr Beta Tester 722 posts 16,744 battles Report post #63 Posted October 5, 2016 Prinz Eugens camo is also wrong btw. (turrets). Hippers permanent camo is ok-ish. Incomplete but at least acceptable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fnord_disc Beta Tester 2,119 posts 5,245 battles Report post #64 Posted October 5, 2016 I'll buy this camo when it gets fixed. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masterrix Alpha Tester 356 posts 2,656 battles Report post #65 Posted October 17, 2016 sry OP, but u are completely wrong the ingame Bismarck camo is historically correct its not the baltic camo, its the camo of the "early part" of Operation Rheinübung, when Bismarck was sent from Gotenhafen to Bergen ! Before leaving Gotenhafen, the "baltic stripes" of the "superstructure" have been removed, and while resting in Bergen, the "baltic stripes" of the "hull" also have been removed, so that Bismarck was without camo when she left Bergen. the ingame camo is the one and only camo Bismarck ever had during an operation, althought it was only for the first part of the operation, while the stripes were removed completely for the second part of the mission. (the full baltic camo was only used during her trial-runs) in short: the ingame camo is historically correct, its just not the version u like more ;-) just take a look: https://www.bismarck-class.dk/bismarck/paint_schemes/paintbism1941rheinubung.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TEA] Robber_Baron Players 1,322 posts 7,981 battles Report post #66 Posted October 17, 2016 sry OP, but u are completely wrong the ingame Bismarck camo is historically correct He's not wrong. He even added a picture of the Bismarck with the stripes on the hull. However, when the stripes on the superstructure were removed, the turret tops lost their dark colours on top as well (as shown by said picture, as well by the link you provided). So even with the short service in those colours, the combination of superstructure and turret tops is still historically incorrect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheCinC Quality Poster 1,695 posts 9,500 battles Report post #67 Posted October 17, 2016 FYI: I posted about this before and this was communicated to the developers, I checked. Not sure it gets a high priority, but I do hope we will get an update where the permanent camouflage becomes the one that Bismarck had while working up in the Baltic. Interesting that a few pictures posted here seem to clearly show the turret tops to be painted in a darker colour. I had checked and been unable to find any confirmation that those turret tops were indeed dark at any point, not for Bismarck at least. But in any case, they certainly were not when they arrived in Norway and choosing a colour scheme halfway being painted over, is just odd. The scheme Bismarck had in the Baltic is much more striking, for a reasonable price, I might be willing to purchase it. But so far I have had very little luck with Bismarck and I sorely miss Torpitz's torps.. Moreover, I hate that she has a hull upgrade which is completely made up, so this is one more ship in the German BB branch that is very disappointing to me. So for me, the matter is a bit of a moot point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T_H_0_R Players 1,015 posts 4,182 battles Report post #68 Posted October 17, 2016 sry OP, but u are completely wrong the ingame Bismarck camo is historically correct As others have commented, the "camo" we have in game shows her state during when she was painted over. Hardly something that can be called a "camouflage". Especially when other examples of Baltic camouflages with stripes on the superstructure can be seen on various other KM ships during their service life (e.g. Scharnhorst camo and Nürnberg). Bismarck's in-game camo resembles a historical photo, nothing more, nothing less. A poorly done homework if you ask me, or just someones deliberate wish to represent that particular photo. PS: Before you get notified by someone else - please remove swastikas from your link (change it like I did). It is against forum rules. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[G_G_G] Helgey Beta Tester 86 posts Report post #69 Posted October 17, 2016 That is the same link I used in first post, and quoted. You can't repaint the hull while the ship is in transit. Yes you can paint on the ships sides when in transit, it is risky. But 2 men on a hanging stage can perform the job. Usually ships sides was painted alongside a warf also using hanging staging. I have worked 40 years at sea so i know very well that it is possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T_H_0_R Players 1,015 posts 4,182 battles Report post #70 Posted October 17, 2016 Yes you can paint on the ships sides when in transit, it is risky. But 2 men on a hanging stage can perform the job. Usually ships sides was painted alongside a warf also using hanging staging. I have worked 40 years at sea so i know very well that it is possible. Not saying that it can't be done in transit. Just that it wasn't feasible on a ship so large: By the looks of it, they did repaint the superstructure before she docked in Norway - en route. The hull was painted over night, after the photo they apparently based the camo on. Mind you, the stripes (hull part we did get) are wrong as well - they varied in thickness. In-game they are uniform. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T_H_0_R Players 1,015 posts 4,182 battles Report post #71 Posted October 20, 2016 Looks like Gneisenau's brand new perma camo is another disappointment: http://m.imgur.com/a/2AmQc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #72 Posted October 20, 2016 Looks like Gneisenau's brand new perma camo is another disappointment: http://m.imgur.com/a/2AmQc Disappointing... No reason to buy it if the camo doesn't look cool. A lot of us would have grinded past it so won't benefit from the extra xp. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masterrix Alpha Tester 356 posts 2,656 battles Report post #73 Posted October 20, 2016 He's not wrong. He even added a picture of the Bismarck with the stripes on the hull. However, when the stripes on the superstructure were removed, the turret tops lost their dark colours on top as well (as shown by said picture, as well by the link you provided). So even with the short service in those colours, the combination of superstructure and turret tops is still historically incorrect. common guys when this is about the color of the turret tops....... .....than I have to say: Scharnhorst's superstructure has much more failures in detail, than Bismarcks turrets for me this Bismarck camo is fine, because it was the historical camo of the first part of Opertation Rheinübung, no matter if it was a half-done painted-over-job. Small failures (turret tops) should be fixed, but Scharnhorst should be fixed first when it comes to wrong details Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
T_H_0_R Players 1,015 posts 4,182 battles Report post #74 Posted October 20, 2016 for me this Bismarck camo is fine, because it was the historical camo of the first part of Opertation Rheinübung, no matter if it was a half-done painted-over-job. Small failures (turret tops) should be fixed, but Scharnhorst should be fixed first when it comes to wrong details Except it isn't a camo, but process of painting one over. Half arsed job at it as well with uniform stripe thickness. No matter it looks daft with just the hull being painted... Gneisenau is just one of the mistakes WG did. Whoever is doing camo work there should be fired IMHO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #75 Posted October 20, 2016 How do WG actually decide wtf camo to give their ships? They seem like a mix of war time camo, museum ship camo and just random stuff. Incidentally is the Perm Hiryu camo in any way historic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
