Balancing in this game, atrocious....

[Intrepid3D]

Its really bad, 4 Destroyers on the enemy team vs 1 on yours, the fact that they can all fire from under a cloud of smoke without being seen makes this game a bit daft anyway but when you have 4 out of 9 enemy ships all doing it makes it impossible to avoid them all.

 

The game started fun enough but now its becoming a let down, increasingly when you go into it you just want to switch it off again.

 

Also is this XP normal? its odd because sometimes i get over 1500 points for doing almost nothing and then get nothing for a good round.

It also seems when you do have a streak of good rounds the next series of rounds nothing goes right, wired balancing, most shots bouncing, those that do hit cause very little damage. aim characteristics change....

 

 

For example how on this one did i get 60% more XP? it seems totally random.

 

 

 

[ColonelPete]

Wrong pictures.

Look at the base XP next page.

The numbers you posted can include a number of modifiers and therefore are not comparable.

[xXx_Blogis_xXx]

in low tiers u expect get high xp ? and you know your exp belongs from performance?

[chaosrealm93]

Its really bad, 4 Destroyers on the enemy team vs 1 on yours, the fact that they can all fire from under a cloud of smoke without being seen makes this game a bit daft anyway but when you have 4 out of 9 enemy ships all doing it makes it impossible to avoid them all.

 

The game started fun enough but now its becoming a let down, increasingly when you go into it you just want to switch it off again.

 

Also is this XP normal? its odd because sometimes i get over 1500 points for doing almost nothing and then get nothing for a good round.

It also seems when you do have a streak of good rounds the next series of rounds nothing goes right, wired balancing, most shots bouncing, those that do hit cause very little damage. aim characteristics change....

 

 

For example how on this one did i get 60% more XP? it seems totally random.

 

 

 

 

 

958 for 66k dmg?

AND all those medals?

 

yeah, somethings off.......

[159Hunter]

I believe, one of the latest patches made it impossible to have more than one DD difference in games. So 4 vs 1 dd is no longer possible. Must have been an old game.

Also, low tiers = lower xp usually. And it depends on what you shoot, if you used that cruiser to shoot DDs and the BB to shoot mainly BBs there will be a difference. Plus there's the issue of the tier of the ships you shot. Basically, without the team result, it's very hard to judge your xp gains.

[Ictogan]

 

958 for 66k dmg?

AND all those medals?

 

yeah, somethings off.......

 

Actually that's normal at such low tiers.

[Intrepid3D]

Its the Same Tier as Kolberg in the second picture, Tier III. both Tier III battles.

[Mayv]

Its the Same Tier as Kolberg in the second picture, Tier III. both Tier III battles.

 

The one with higher XP could have had the first win bonus.

XP isnt based on damage but percentage damage doing 10k damage to DDs earns more XP than 10k damage to BBs.

You get an XP modifier for doing damage to higher tiered enemy ships.

 

Those base defense ribbons are worth a decent amount of XP as well.

 

Your screenshots dont tell us the important details.

[Egoleter]

If possible please provide us with the rest of the endgame statistics. Most importantly the detailed report and the full Credits and XP screen.

 

The higher score on the second match could be for any number of reasons.

1) You dealt more damage to DDs and CAs then to BBs in the second one and vice versa in the first.

2) You got the first victory of the day bonus included.

3) You had other XP modifiers active (flags, premium time, special camo)

[anonym_XGuN6pHmfiJ9]

I actually would love the idea that cruisers get more XP/money than BB in a battle. It would encourage people to play more cruisers and less BB. 

 

At the moment it's like 5 enemy BB in each battle

[Egoleter]

I actually would love the idea that cruisers get more XP/money than BB in a battle. It would encourage people to play more cruisers and less BB. 

 

At the moment it's like 5 enemy BB in each battle

 

Only because the german ones are new. It will go down to more normal levels in few days or weeks.

[ColonelPete]

We had 36% BBs before german BBs.

That are more than 4 BB per side on average.

This will not get less without change.

[Intrepid3D]

No modifiers, i can't remember what ships i sunk.

In the Nassau battle i caused more damage, Medals earned: Lucky Shot, Close Quarters Expert, First Blood, Double Strike, Devastating Strike and High Caliber. and i survived the round, i also killed 3 ships.

 

vs

 

Less Damage, Medals earned: High Caliber, killed 2 ships and died.

 

Do all those medals and surviving the round not count for anything?, the XP in the round where i achieved far less is almost twice as high.

[Jengkins]

38 battles and you think you know what you are talking about?

 

4vs1 DDs MM also sounds like a myth. Haven't seen this since the last update.

 

XP looks fine to me even though I haven't seen the detailed report.

 

Don't give up and keep levelling up or perhaps try another line.

[Intrepid3D]

38 battles and you think you know what you are talking about?

 

4vs1 DDs MM also sounds like a myth. Haven't seen this since the last update.

 

XP looks fine to me even though I haven't seen the detailed report.

 

Don't give up and keep levelling up or perhaps try another line.

 

 

You don't have to be an expert to question causing more damage, earning 6x as many Medals, killing more ships and surviving the round earning you little more than half the XP.

Even if i did cause more damage to Battleships vs Cruisers in the Kolberg Battle (i don't remember that i did or not) causing more damage points, earning 6x as many medals, surviving the round and sinking more ships should be enough to make up for that, or its just about what type of ships you damage, in which case i would argue points for a wider achievement needs to be added to this game, the size of the ship that you take on doesn't really matter as far as skill is concerned, in fact for me the easiest thing in this game is taking on a Battleship with a Cruiser like the Kolberg.

[Jengkins]

 

 

You don't have to be an expert to question causing more damage, earning 6x as many Medals, killing more ships and surviving the round earning you little more than half the XP.

Even if i did cause more damage to Battleships vs Cruisers in the Kolberg Battle (i don't remember that i did or not) causing more damage points, earning 6x as many medals, surviving the round and sinking more ships should be enough to make up for that, or its just about what type of ships you damage, in which case i would argue points for a wider achievement needs to be added to this game, the size of the ship that you take on doesn't really matter as far as skill is concerned, in fact for me the easiest thing in this game is taking on a Battleship with a Cruiser like the Kolberg.

 

I get your point but I wouldn't be too carried away by that especially in low tier. Anyway premium account and the xp flag can be a big factor when it comes to earning xp and credits. The xp rewards without premium or flags are pretty small no matter how much damage you do. That is the downside of playing free. Most f2p title offer you a horrific grind and small rewards to keep you hooked.

[Intrepid3D]

 

I get your point but I wouldn't be too carried away by that especially in low tier. Anyway premium account and the xp flag can be a big factor when it comes to earning xp and credits. The xp rewards without premium or flags are pretty substantial no matter how much damage you do. That is the downside of playing free. Most f2p title offer you a horrific grind and small rewards to keep you hooked.

 

Yeah fair enough, no doubt i will need to spend money once i get to higher Tiers and i'm happy to do that but first i want to evaluate the game in the lower tiers..

[Verence196]

 

Yeah, but as stated above - xp isnt tied to absolute dmg, but to percentage dmg. So destroying 50% of a DD (a couple of thousand hp) will net you about the same xp as destroying 50% of a BB (15 000ish hp). Thats why the damage count in itself isnt a reliable indicator of xp earnt, and why its easier for a kolberg to deal damage to a BB than to a DD. Nor are the sinking ribbons a good indicator of xp. They only tell you who fired the last shot - not who did most of the work. So to reiterate: You need to study the detailed xp screen - not the after action overview - if you want to know where your xp came from. =) It took me a while to figure it out too.

 

 

 

 

 

[SBS]

This can be misleading. Medals do not really give any boost to XP earned, and the amount you earn is based on % of damage dealth to a ship, so a cruiser killing other cruisers and DD gets more XP than a BB killing BB.

 

Also, we do not see what kind of modifiers are working here. Not saying that there isn't something wrong, just that these pictures does not show the whole picture.

 

There is a reason the after action report has more pages with a lot of detailed information.

[Jengkins]

 

Yeah fair enough, no doubt i will need to spend money once i get to higher Tiers and i'm happy to do that but first i want to evaluate the game in the lower tiers..

 

No offence but you picked some pretty tough ship lines as a starter imo. German Cruisers can be very frustrating. You have to be very mobile and have to change direction as often as possible without losing the grip to your target. German BBs are great but you need to brawl a lot. Their true strength is in close quarters. Tirpitz/Bismarck. Gneisenau/Scharnhorst are working fine in mid range. 

 

If you like cruisers then Japan is a very good line. Most cruisers are very fragile but the Japs sometimes forgive you when you do a mistake. 

 

Its all about a suitable line for you to start with to evaluate the game from the beginning. 

[Intrepid3D]

 

No offence but you picked some pretty tough ship lines as a starter imo. German Cruisers can be very frustrating. You have to be very mobile and have to change direction as often as possible without losing the grip to your target. German BBs are great but you need to brawl a lot. Their true strength is in close quarters. Tirpitz/Bismarck. Gneisenau/Scharnhorst are working fine in mid range. 

 

If you like cruisers then Japan is a very good line. Most cruisers are very fragile but the Japs sometimes forgive you when you do a mistake. 

 

Its all about a suitable line for you to start with to evaluate the game from the beginning. 

 

I went with the German line because of Bismark, predictably.... actually because German Battleships are more like huge Cruisers, especially the smaller ones, they have a good balance of protection, speed and turret speed, Gneisenau or her sister ship Scharnhorst spring to mind, and then there's those huge Battlewagons at Tier 9 and 10, want to give those ago.

 

Kolberg, To me it seems like a great little ship, at 7Km its perfect, very rapid fire, very accurate, firing ark is high enough to get over most hills, it turns fast and tight enough to avoid incoming fire most of the time.

 

My play style is quick rapid fire on the move rather than sitting duck with big powerful broadsides.

 

I'm trying to get to higher tiers the fastest rout possible, that means running no more than 2 ships, though i must admit i am itching to try others. there are also some great ships in the UK line, when they arrive...

[Ast3lan]

 

I went with the German line because of Bismark, predictably.... actually because German Battleships are more like huge Cruisers, especially the smaller ones, they have a good balance of protection, speed and turret speed, Gneisenau or her sister ship Scharnhorst spring to mind, and then there's those huge Battlewagons at Tier 9 and 10, want to give those ago.

 

Kolberg, To me it seems like a great little ship, at 7Km its perfect, very rapid fire, very accurate, firing ark is high enough to get over most hills, it turns fast and tight enough to avoid incoming fire most of the time.

 

My play stile is quick rapid fire on the move rather than sitting duck with big powerful broadsides.

 

I'm trying to get to higher tiers the fastest rout possible, that means running no more than 2 ships, though i must admit i am itching to try others. there are also some great ships in the UK line, when they arrive...

 

Don't rush the lines... this is a typical beginner's mistake, you rushed to tier VI...VII then what? The grind is bigger , the credit income lower , the repair bill higher and people at tier V - VI start to be a bit more tough to sink. Then you get bored, come here make a couple more threads on how the game is, unfair / unbalanced / ship A,B,C are OP / UP etc.

 

Take you time, learn the tricks, you like the german ships, good then take your time to learn how they work, i'm telling you , you are going to have a blast with the Könnigsberg and after that until you reach the Hipster you are going to be sorely disapointed, same for BB's, until you reach the Gneisenau you are going to need the stuff you learned in the past tiers and have to learn some more.

 

Learn to read the map and when not to get frustrated with the teams ( the frustration feeling comes along with the tier climb trust me and everyone else here ) the games go from a free for all lets shoot everything and rush the enemy to either Blob A tries to fry Blob B or why the hell is everyone camping back there? 

 

There's games where your quick rapid fire style just wont cut it because the ships you are in wont allow you that playstyle anymore, the game is more slow paced and you need to predict more where people are and going to be. You will find destroyers that are nastier then the ones you currently face, you will see the odd CV wich will blow your BB or CA's broadside with torps or just bomb you to death.

 

Im not even going into how a CA and a BB are fundamentaly diferent and serve diferent roles, ok BBs not that much , mainly form and how they perform their function, CA's.. well prepare to be citadelled and to be frustrated because you cant play fast anymore and other CA's have just become that much more dangerous. 

 

All this to say.. take your time, whatever line you choose, just take your time and actually learn stuff instead of rushing trough the tiers.

[T0byJug]

No modifiers, i can't remember what ships i sunk.

In the Nassau battle i caused more damage, Medals earned: Lucky Shot, Close Quarters Expert, First Blood, Double Strike, Devastating Strike and High Caliber. and i survived the round, i also killed 3 ships.

 

vs

 

Less Damage, Medals earned: High Caliber, killed 2 ships and died.

 

Do all those medals and surviving the round not count for anything?, the XP in the round where i achieved far less is almost twice as high.

 

First well done in both games thats not a bad score for a tier 3

 a few points. 

 

Of those Medals the High calibre is the only rely significant one and you got that in both.

you got 2 cap resets in the Kolberg.

 

There are many aspects to XP reward.

Tier of ship you hit

what Percentage of the total damage done to the ship was by you. doing all the damage to a 10k HP DD will give you more XP than doing 20K damage on a 50K HP BB

[Intrepid3D]

 

First well done in both games thats not a bad score for a tier 3

 a few points. 

 

Of those Medals the High calibre is the only rely significant one and you got that in both.

you got 2 cap resets in the Kolberg.

 

There are many aspects to XP reward.

Tier of ship you hit

what Percentage of the total damage done to the ship was by you. doing all the damage to a 10k HP DD will give you more XP than doing 20K damage on a 50K HP BB

 

Thanks.

[chaosrealm93]

 

Actually that's normal at such low tiers.

 

i think i avg around the 1300 mark at those tiers...... =s