PathfinderII Players 7 posts 2,591 battles Report post #1 Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) Who had the stupid idea that Arkansas Beta won't get any AA? What a [edited]joke of a reward tank. It's not even earning extra credits so don't know why the [edited]you had to [edited] it up this way? WG games aren't known for their realistic nature but in what way a slow ship not getting any air defense does make sense to you, in games when if you have armor and you're slow, there's a class that can [edited] all over you? Even now when there's hundreds of BBs in queue I still had CVs in 3 out of 4 of my games, in two of those 2/team. Edited August 23, 2016 by RogDodgeUK This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to forum rules violation.~RogDodgeUK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrFingers Beta Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 3,242 posts Report post #2 Posted August 22, 2016 U mad bro?As "compensation", it gets access to 6 upgrade slots, and upgrades only tier X can get. That makes for one hell of a beastly BB. The lack of AA is "annoying", but it trains you to act proactive when enemy planes are spotted nearby, a good tactic that will become of use later on, when you play higher-tier ships... And it's not that the Wyoming shoots down enough planes to make her immune to aerial attacks... but: from a Chinese "leak", it was said the Ark.Beta would get some AA (saluting guns and some MG's). Enough for the fireworks, but nothing useful. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] Kevbar Beta Tester 687 posts 8,087 battles Report post #3 Posted August 22, 2016 Learn how to play like most of the other Beta Testers have done. I know I'm not that great in it but play to its strengths and its a much underrated beast when fully upgraded. Personally, I love it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,524 battles Report post #4 Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) WOW the Trolls are digging deep today....... Arkansas Beta is ok. AA would be nice but its ok. She gets 6 Modification slots (unlike most tier 4 that get 2) guns are very good (because of the Moduls you can Add. She has faster Turret rotation much more manuvalbe. As someone that has her and plays her she is ok. In-fact i would say Good i like her. So whats your problem anyway PathfinderII unless this is your troll account and you have another account .PS against WG rules (though they dont enforce this) You are not a BETA tester or above so you dont have her Edited August 22, 2016 by T0byJug Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXx_Blogis_xXx Alpha Tester, Players 5,335 posts 35,510 battles Report post #5 Posted August 22, 2016 wait what ? isnt arka geting aa buff? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PathfinderII Players 7 posts 2,591 battles Report post #6 Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) Learn how to play like most of the other Beta Testers have done. I know I'm not that great in it but play to its strengths and its a much underrated beast when fully upgraded. Personally, I love it. "Learn to play' Good job, anything you learned from WG community? How does learning compensates for the lack of AA? I'm doin quite good in every game but still it's a problem. It doesn't even matter how bad or good a ship is, just the thing of any 4+ tier not getting AA is [edited] Edited August 23, 2016 by RogDodgeUK This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to forum rules violation.~RogDodgeUK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SBS Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters 2,556 posts 1,924 battles Report post #7 Posted August 22, 2016 U mad bro? As "compensation", it gets access to 6 upgrade slots, and upgrades only tier X can get. That makes for one hell of a beastly BB. The lack of AA is "annoying", but it trains you to act proactive when enemy planes are spotted nearby, a good tactic that will become of use later on, when you play higher-tier ships... And it's not that the Wyoming shoots down enough planes to make her immune to aerial attacks... This, also as a Beta tester you SHOULD KNOW how to evade planes or at least reduce damage enough. Not that the other tier 4 have that good AA anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kalybeos Players 40 posts 2,127 battles Report post #8 Posted August 22, 2016 Even if the Arkansas would get the stock AA of the Wyoming, the damage would be so low, that the planes could be parked above you for a long time, till something would happen to em, so they may as well not be there. Arkansas is still a very good BB for TIV matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KptStrzyga Beta Tester 4,868 posts 5,014 battles Report post #9 Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) Arkansas is only slightly worse than Imperator, most op "TANK" in the game so stahp complaining. Pro tip: turn on minimap and avoiding air drops will become much easier. Edited August 22, 2016 by KptStrzyga Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] T0byJug Quality Poster 5,358 posts 25,524 battles Report post #10 Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) "Learn to play' Good job, anything you learned from WG community? How does learning compensates for the lack of AA? I'm doin quite good in every game but still it's a problem. It doesn't even matter how bad or good a ship is, just the thing of any 4+ tier not getting AA is [edited] Unlike you i don't hid my stats. Go take a look! I do better in my beta than ether of my other 2 tier 4 BB's so I would state (from experience) that she is ok without AA. in fact AA would probably make her OP. AA would be nice but it not being there is not [edited] Edited August 23, 2016 by RogDodgeUK This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to forum rules violation.~RogDodgeUK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Jengkins Supertester, Beta Tester 763 posts 8,395 battles Report post #11 Posted August 22, 2016 Arkansas is a ....... monster if you know what you are doing. 6 upgrade slots like a tier 10 but you probably didn't notice that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damo74 Beta Tester 704 posts 2,459 battles Report post #12 Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) Who had the stupid idea that Arkansas Beta won't get any AA? What a [edited]joke of a reward tank. It's not even earning extra credits so don't know why the [edited] you had to [edited] it up this way? WG games aren't known for their realistic nature but in what way a slow ship not getting any air defense does make sense to you, in games when if you have armor and you're slow, there's a class that can sht all over you? Even now when there's hundreds of BBs in queue I still had CVs in 3 out of 4 of my games, in two of those 2/team. [edited] Edited August 23, 2016 by RogDodgeUK This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to forum rules violation.~RogDodgeUK 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PathfinderII Players 7 posts 2,591 battles Report post #13 Posted August 22, 2016 of AA is "annoying", but it trains you to act proactive when enemy planes are spotted nearby, a good tactic that will become of use later on, when you play higher-tier ships... And it's not that the Wyoming shoots down enough planes to make her immune to aerial attacks... Scenario. Lemmings north, I follow them cause no AA even if I see the enemy might get close to our base or cap. Enemy torpedo squadron of 6 spams torps in the middle of our lemming, not one plane shot down, that's how good is the AA at that level. Lemming still push north , our base is getting caped. Arkansas turns back to help defend with the remaining scattered ships, and it's obvious what happens. My problem is the many cases when "acting proactively" can't help you. I had one squad torpedo bomber with one plane only that was hovering above me just to be sure he hits me . There's no way u can avoid those, unlike any other BB. How does increasing my firing range or accuracy or whatever really compensates that. I'm not askin for much but an AA rate of 5 would be still something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
praetor_jax Beta Tester 1,266 posts 4,216 battles Report post #14 Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) "Learn to play' Good job, anything you learned from WG community? How does learning compensates for the lack of AA? I'm doin quite good in every game but still it's a problem. It doesn't even matter how bad or good a ship is, just the thing of any 4+ tier not getting AA is [edited] Yes, learn to play. What would you propose? Give Arkansas the same AA as Wyoming? Bam, OP ship for beta testers, so no. Give her the same AA as several other tier 4 premium battleships (Ishi, Nikolai)? Nice, six 8cm guns are such good AA. Big difference. Just avoid the torpedoes. If she was a tier 5 ship she would need AA, a tier 4 ship doesnt. Edited August 23, 2016 by RogDodgeUK This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to forum rules violation.~RogDodgeUK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PathfinderII Players 7 posts 2,591 battles Report post #15 Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) Pro tip: turn on minimap [edited] Edited August 23, 2016 by RogDodgeUK This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to forum rules violation.~RogDodgeUK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FIFO] ilhilh [FIFO] Beta Tester 2,451 posts 7,514 battles Report post #16 Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) quoted post removed What an angry little man. Grow up. Edited August 23, 2016 by RogDodgeUK This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to forum rules violation.~RogDodgeUK 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PathfinderII Players 7 posts 2,591 battles Report post #17 Posted August 22, 2016 WOW the Trolls are digging deep today....... Arkansas Beta is ok. AA would be nice but its ok. She gets 6 Modification slots (unlike most tier 4 that get 2) guns are very good (because of the Moduls you can Add. She has faster Turret rotation much more manuvalbe. As someone that has her and plays her she is ok. In-fact i would say Good i like her. So whats your problem anyway PathfinderII unless this is your troll account and you have another account .PS against WG rules (though they dont enforce this) You are not a BETA tester or above so you dont have her What are you talkin about? It's my only account, not that it would be against any rule as I know if it's the same as in Wot. I started playing wows again after a long pause, it's my first post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PathfinderII Players 7 posts 2,591 battles Report post #18 Posted August 22, 2016 What an angry little man. Grow up. " upgrade slots like a tier 10 but you probably didn't notice that. " Comment like this annoy me. And I have to grow up? All of you can argue, and you do, that Arkansas it's fine as it is, but insulting me with comments like that, how does that make sense for you? And you add a "grow up".. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,177 battles Report post #19 Posted August 22, 2016 Player Average for Ships [ at 2016/08/06 ] Nation Class Tier Name Win Damage Kills/Battle Survival SN BB 4 Imperator Nikolai I 59.05 49.490 1.46 48.26 US BB 4 Arkansas Beta 55.64 43.951 1.21 46.49 JP BB 4 Ishizuchi 50.19 30.418 0.84 34.73 US BB 4 Wyoming 49.49 25.400 0.66 35.79 JP BB 4 Myogi 47.60 21.845 0.52 37.82 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PathfinderII Players 7 posts 2,591 battles Report post #20 Posted August 22, 2016 "Unlike you i don't hid my stats" I don't hide my stats. It is hidden for default. You are showing your stats. There's a difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
damo74 Beta Tester 704 posts 2,459 battles Report post #21 Posted August 22, 2016 (edited) quoted post removed Edited August 23, 2016 by RogDodgeUK This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to forum rules violation.~RogDodgeUK 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AlwaysBadLuckWithTeams Weekend Tester 1,469 posts 37,910 battles Report post #22 Posted August 22, 2016 As you can tell by my sig, I do agree. In my understanding, no ship should have a free shot at any other without fear of retribution of some kind. But a ship with 0 aa is just asking to be b-slapped by a carrier. Even if you start evading early enough, the torpedo bombers can simply fly across you to your exposed side and hit you from there without losing a single plane. The carrier can take all the time he wants. That is just bad design. I do not want Des Moines-like air defense, but come on, even the Wyoming class does have some guns. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,177 battles Report post #23 Posted August 22, 2016 And still most Arkansas captains perform significantly better than the average Wyoming captains... ... and have a higher survial rating... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NOHE] Turnipsi [NOHE] Players 243 posts 11,593 battles Report post #24 Posted August 22, 2016 And still most Arkansas captains perform significantly better than the average Wyoming captains... ... and have a higher survial rating... Moot point considering that Wyoming is a regular ship and Arkansas is a premium. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OiMateYouSankMyBattleShp Players 98 posts Report post #25 Posted August 22, 2016 Moot point considering that Wyoming is a regular ship and Arkansas is a premium. The main reason why the stats are better than the regular Wyoming class, is because people that actually know how 2 play are playing it, well at least the majority of it. Main reason why Imperator is so good on the stats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
