Corvi Beta Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,147 posts 16,279 battles Report post #1 Posted August 19, 2016 So, i sadly made the mistake to buy the Scharnhorst, wich turned out to be the most underpowered piece of junk ship that ever made it into the game. It is supposed to hunt cruisers, but every cruiser so far utterly raped it without me even being able to pen the enemy properly. The guns are weak and inaccurate, they do laughable damage and the ship burns like a stack of matches. Its even hopeless against Tier 5 BB as you cannot pen them but they shoot through you like butter. Every CA laughs at the 2k dmg per salvo he gets while in the same time he rapes you for 10k dmg. Im getting wet eyes if i see a Scharnhorst in my Kirov as its easy 60k dmg done without having to fear to take any serious damage in return. So my question is, is there a way to give it back and buy an actual useful ship instead or am i stuck with this piece of crap now ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Ictogan Players 1,841 posts 7,432 battles Report post #2 Posted August 19, 2016 Read first sentence, couldn't stop laughing. 6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #3 Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) Play her like the CA/BB hybrid she is By the way, I think her guns are quite accurate (34% MBH) but that's probably because I played the Tirpitz a lot. ps: You didn't even play your Kirov once since SH came out Edited August 19, 2016 by aboomination Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
anonym_MfZ6T7iwWpUC Players 1,139 posts Report post #4 Posted August 19, 2016 You are stuck with that piece of crap until you learn how to play the game. Then as if by magic, it turns into a cracking ship. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FIFO] ilhilh [FIFO] Beta Tester 2,451 posts 7,514 battles Report post #5 Posted August 19, 2016 Played only 5 games. Snap judgement. Your average damage in it is about the same as your other tier 7 ships. If you are only getting 2k salvoes then you are doing it wrong. I expect you are leading targets by the sae as your other BBs when actually you need a much shorter lead with the Scharnhorst as her shell arc/speed mean your shells get to the target much faster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ATRA] Srle_Vigilante Weekend Tester 1,233 posts 10,342 battles Report post #6 Posted August 19, 2016 So, i sadly made the mistake to buy the Scharnhorst, wich turned out to be the most underpowered piece of junk ship that ever made it into the game. It is supposed to hunt cruisers, but every cruiser so far utterly raped it without me even being able to pen the enemy properly. What?? Ow would you look at this box that you have to tick before you press buy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #7 Posted August 19, 2016 Lel.... I hope you're not shooting at 19km... Wait until you're detected then start firing. Her guns perform fine at close range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXx_Blogis_xXx Alpha Tester, Players 5,335 posts 35,510 battles Report post #8 Posted August 19, 2016 another kid that buy premium before learn how play ships,, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Tyrendian89 [TTTX] Players 4,608 posts 8,139 battles Report post #9 Posted August 19, 2016 nuff said 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corvi Beta Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,147 posts 16,279 battles Report post #10 Posted August 19, 2016 another kid that buy premium before learn how play ships,, Another kid that comments before he looks up anything .. Im not a potato player (thou not a stetsped DD player either), i know how to play ships. But when a Cleveland sails full broadside to you not even 8km away, you shoot and out of 9 shells you lad 3 pens, 2 overpens and 2 bounces and in the progress you do around 3600 dmg while the Cleveland lads 4k dmg and two fires with every salvo you ask yourself what you are doing there .. Needless to say i lost to the Cleveland becasue he turned away slightly and i was unable to deal any significant damage to him since everything was bounceing or doing pathetic dmg. He just kept spamming me with HE and in the end he killed me from full HP and i dealt 12k dmg to him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #11 Posted August 19, 2016 This has to be a joke though right? Stating Scharnhorst is UP *and* not reading the T&Cs before buying? Too much fail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Ictogan Players 1,841 posts 7,432 battles Report post #12 Posted August 19, 2016 Just a word of advice: the guns are closer to CA guns than BB guns, so use them like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NOHE] Hurme_Ulina [NOHE] Beta Tester 225 posts 9,355 battles Report post #13 Posted August 19, 2016 You could write a ticket to WG explaining your situtation, But I doubt that'll do anything since ship being UP won't be a valid excuse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OILUP] WhiskeyWolf Beta Tester 1,491 posts 11,683 battles Report post #14 Posted August 19, 2016 Not sure if troll thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THROW] Takru Supertester, Players, Sailing Hamster, Privateer 3,851 posts 23,972 battles Report post #15 Posted August 19, 2016 May be you're a bit more of a potato than you think you are? It's quite astonishing that so many people do well in Scharnhorst and yet you complain about her being underpowered. May be these educational video can help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #16 Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) stetsped DD player Sorry - WoT peeps will understand ;) Edited August 19, 2016 by aboomination Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Corvi Beta Tester, In AlfaTesters 1,147 posts 16,279 battles Report post #17 Posted August 19, 2016 May be you're a bit more of a potato than you think you are? It's quite astonishing that so many people do well in Scharnhorst and yet you complain about her being underpowered. May be these educational video can help. Guess what, i watched those, thats why i bought this ship. But as from all WG financed youtube reviewers they select the best lucky games and show those only. The majority of the games where the Scharnhorst gets utterly destroyed by everything doesnt make it into the videos, would be bad marketing .. Just not came from a game where a Königsberg completely destroyed me becasue the guns where unable to pen him. 51 hits on Königsberg, 27k dmg done .. Out of 51 hits i got 11 bounces and 3 non-penetrations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[2DQT] RUSSIANBlAS Players 8,241 posts Report post #18 Posted August 19, 2016 100k damage first game I used her. Feels good. Bounced an epic amount of shells off her armour. Hope to get some decent games in before nerf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xXx_Blogis_xXx Alpha Tester, Players 5,335 posts 35,510 battles Report post #19 Posted August 19, 2016 May be you're a bit more of a potato than you think you are? It's quite astonishing that so many people do well in Scharnhorst and yet you complain about her being underpowered. May be these educational video can help. lol wanted to post same vid +1 for u ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] aboomination Players 5,763 posts 16,940 battles Report post #20 Posted August 19, 2016 WG financed youtube reviewers 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NOHE] Hurme_Ulina [NOHE] Beta Tester 225 posts 9,355 battles Report post #21 Posted August 19, 2016 Guess what, i watched those, thats why i bought this ship. But as from all WG financed youtube reviewers they select the best lucky games and show those only. The majority of the games where the Scharnhorst gets utterly destroyed by everything doesnt make it into the videos, would be bad marketing .. Just not came from a game where a Königsberg completely destroyed me becasue the guns where unable to pen him. 51 hits on Königsberg, 27k dmg done .. Out of 51 hits i got 11 bounces and 3 non-penetrations. If you struggle that hard with T5 cruiser, it's not the Scharnhorst's fault. Maybe, MAYBE, if you had the worst RNG in 100 years you'd lose to a tier 5 cruiser, but only thing that I can think of is that Königsberg outplayed and outwitted you from a range of 15-16km, evading most of your shots while you just kept shooting at her. It's pretty easy to avoid or even bounce most BB shells from that range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FTR] Krizmuz Players 780 posts 24,247 battles Report post #22 Posted August 19, 2016 L2P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOTS] deadly_if_swallowed Players 1,678 posts 13,867 battles Report post #23 Posted August 19, 2016 Was in a T9 game with Iowa yesterday evening. Had 2 Scharnhorsts in it (1 in my team, 1 enemy). Both got Arsonist and Witherer. Maybe reconsider your choice of ammunition? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dzony_Milelony Players 60 posts 5,782 battles Report post #24 Posted August 19, 2016 Just....LOL 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM-G] gR3iF Privateer 534 posts 13,623 battles Report post #25 Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) I would like to post you a "L2P" but to give you a more specific answer: The ship has a decent armour which is capable of bouncing even Nagato, Amagi, Iowa shells. This leads to a point where you can survive longer than the other bbs. about burning: Yeah Scharnhorst burns like any other bb. So use the flag against it and try to dodge some salvos. Never repair on one fire, while they keep shooting at you. Regarding the aim: I think you need to adapt the shells and aim: I for mine had to practice a bit until I hit my salvos. My stats with her from yesterday: Edited August 19, 2016 by gR3iF Share this post Link to post Share on other sites