What do you have to do to earn XP in this game?

[Frakk01]

New Mexico

2x Citadel hits, 1 Aircraft downed, 1x BB kill from said Citadel, 1x DD kill, heavy damage to two other ships, capture 2x objectives, survived the round. just short of 700 XP, WTF?

Do they just make this crap up as they go along?

 

Its hard enough being placed in tier 7 and 8 battles with a tier 6 BB that has a range of 15KM and 21KN against 30KN BB's with 20KM range most of the time, but to then take the #### by rewarding you with a pathetically low XP for doing remarkably well against all the odds is just flattout insulting.

 

Is this because i'm not a premium member and spending money on the game constantly? it sure as hell fells like the game does not want me to progress to tier 7.

[Nechrom]

Screenshot?

[Userext]

do you smell that?

[Lladdir_]

Ya know it usually helps to not be playing Coop

[Frakk01]

Actually this is my account but i haven't used that Email for a long time so cannot remember it. so i'm using this account to post, don't use it for anything else.

 

http://worldofwarships.eu/en/community/accounts/529308476-Humbug_1/!/pvp/overview/

[Nechrom]

Ya know it usually helps to not be playing Coop

 

It helps to play the game at all really.

[Belustigungspanda]

a tier 6 BB that has a range of 15KM

 

Using the "Artillery Plotting Room 1" upgrade (500k credits, 2nd slot) pushes your range to 17.3km.

 

Concerning XP gain: If you lost the round (You're just writing about "surviving".) and didn't get full base caps on your own, 700 base xp seems like a somewhat normal result, based on my T6 experience.

[Lladdir_]

Actually this is my account but i haven't used that Email for a long time so cannot remember it. so i'm using this account to post, don't use it for anything else.

 

http://worldofwarships.eu/en/community/accounts/529308476-Humbug_1/!/pvp/overview/

 

Actually I hadn't looked at your stats I was just saying that based on the numbers your gave as that sounds like a good Coop battle result.

Having now looked at your stats either your second game you did pretty much no damage or the one your talking about wasn't as good as it sounds. Also the fact that you lost means that you get a lower exp

[Frakk01]

 

Using the "Artillery Plotting Room 1" upgrade (500k credits, 2nd slot) pushes your range to 17.3km.

 

Concerning XP gain: If you lost the round (You're just writing about "surviving".) and didn't get full base caps on your own, 700 base xp seems like a somewhat normal result, based on my T6 experience.

 

I take it that costs money?

 

Yes we lost the round and no altho i was first in i did not capture the objective on my own, i successfully thought off a DD in one of those zones.

 

It still fells pretty pathetic lose or not to only get less than 700 XP for all that, you barley get over 1K for similar work when you win the round, considering from start Tier 6 to Tier 7 BB is what? about 150,000 XP? it would take a lot of months to progress with very little XP on a good day and almost nothing on a bad day.

 

@ Sho, how can i get a fat Citadel taking 60%+ off a BB to kill it and have no damage points in the stats?

[Nechrom]

Yes we lost the round

 

Well there's your problem.

[Userext]

It still fells pretty pathetic lose or not to only get less than 700 XP for all that, you barley get over 1K for similar work when you win the round, considering from start Tier 6 to Tier 7 BB is what? about 150,000 XP? it would take a lot of months to progress with very little XP on a good day and almost nothing on a bad day

 

you have 721 average experience for NM. That means you are just upset about losing when you did good(not even your best).

 

Move on people nothing to see here other than a player upset about losing

[Belustigungspanda]

 

I take it that costs money?

 

Just ingame credits, as each of the upgrades does. Beginning at T6, you should consider buying selected upgrades for your ships.

 

It still fells pretty pathetic lose or not to only get less than 700 XP for all that, you barley get over 1K for similar work when you win the round, considering from start Tier 6 to Tier 7 BB is what? about 150,000 XP? it would take a lot of months to progress with very little XP on a good day and almost nothing on a bad day.

 

My average XP on the New Mexico (which is one of my favorite ships in the game) currently is about 1200 (no premium account), which is 1.7 times your xp. On average, i'm dealing about twice your damage per match, both in damage points (28k vs. 56k) and kills, which also results in a much higher win rate. Server average for the New Mex is 40k damage and just above 1k xp per match.

Maybe you still have to get used to the New Mexico playstile. Learning when to brawl and angle is vital on this ship. I had to get up into T8+ games to really get used to this playstile and adapt it for mid tier games.

[Frakk01]

 

you have 721 average experience for NM. That means you are just upset about losing when you did good(not even your best).

 

Move on people nothing to see here other than a player upset about losing

 

Well yes, that is the whole point of this thread, i don't get double XP and #### knows what other perks for being a premium member so the XP i get per round on a good day is still pathetic.

[Userext]

 

Well yes, that is the whole point of this thread, i don't get double XP and #### knows what other perks for being a premium member so the XP i get per round on a good day is still pathetic.

 

721 exp per battle isnt bad. Get better or stop whining

[Lladdir_]

 

 

 

@ Sho, how can i get a fat Citadel taking 60%+ off a BB to kill it and have no damage points in the stats?

 

I wasn't talking about that game I was talking about the other game you played that day in the New Mexico, your average damage for the New Mexico yesterday was 23k so that means the best damage you could have had for your good game was around 46k and that assumes that you got 0 damage in the other game, see where I'm coming from.

So based on what you said two citadels is around 20k but probably lower since you got a kill so lets call it 17k, killed a DD i'll be generous and say 5k and heavily damaged 2 other ships so again lets call it 20k, which over all come to around 42k damage, i'll assume the rest comes from the BB you killed and random pot-shots at other ships. This tell me, 1 your damage in that game was at best, average, 2 you did less than half of any your targets HP and damage exp is based on percentage of health rather than pure damage number. And these numbers all come assuming you did 46k damage which would mean in your other game you did little to no damage

 

Also to add to what others have said we don't know what you did the damage to, we don't know what tier they were, we don't know how much of the cap you got etc these are things that effect exp gain

[Frakk01]

 

721 exp per battle isnt bad. Get better or stop whining

 

Theres always that but i do pull my weight, much better than a lot of players in this game, i dread to think how many years it takes them to rank up past 5 or 6 with sub 300 XP per round, my question is how much XP would i earn if i was constantly spending money on this game, i understand and to some degree agree with the pay to win concept on free to play games, but its a question of balance, lets face it this game is not exactly alive with players not just by the looks of the fact that from this forum view at least there seems to be more testers than actual players but also there only ever seems to be a few thousand on the servers at any given time.

 

At what point to do you balance keeping people interested to keep the servers going for those who pay as well as those who don't and trying to get people to spend money?

 

Right now i'm thinking its going to take the rest of my life to get to Tier 8, #### that!

[Userext]

 

Theres always that but i do pull my weight, much better than a lot of players in this game, i dread to think how many years it takes them to rank up past 5 or 6 with sub 300 XP per round, my question is how much XP would i earn if i was constantly spending money on this game, i understand and to some degree agree with the pay to win concept on free to play games, but its a question of balance, lets face it this game is not exactly alive with players not just by the looks of the fact that from this forum view at least there seems to be more testers than actual players but also there only ever seems to be a few thousand on the servers at any given time.

 

At what point to do you balance keeping people interested to keep the servers going for those who pay as well as those who don't and trying to get people to spend money?

 

Premium account only give you %50 more exp and nothing else. You dont pull your weight. You are underperforming. You would earn 350 exp more but the base exp(the one you see in team score) wouldnt change. There is also no pay to win concept here. Again its about you. The only actual testers are supertesters rest(like me) are ex testers.

Its not as easy as WoT to get people on WoWs. Game mechanism isnt simple like wot and it requires time to do good. Average wot player wouldnt like to play this game.

At what point? There is no imbalance between who pays and who doesnt. Its just a matter of you underperforming(AKA L2P issue, you are below average, in wot terms you are tomatoe)

[Frakk01]

 

Premium account only give you %50 more exp and nothing else. You dont pull your weight. You are underperforming. You would earn 350 exp more but the base exp(the one you see in team score) wouldnt change. There is also no pay to win concept here. Again its about you. The only actual testers are supertesters rest(like me) are ex testers.

Its not as easy as WoT to get people on WoWs. Game mechanism isnt simple like wot and it requires time to do good. Average wot player wouldnt like to play this game.

At what point? There is no imbalance between who pays and who doesnt. Its just a matter of you underperforming(AKA L2P issue, you are below average, in wot terms you are tomatoe)

 

And yet if i pay i can extend the 15KM range on NM, i can as you say get 50% extra XP, don't pretend that isn't significant.

 

As for game mechanics, well DD with cloaking devices suddenly going invisible 4KM off your side while firing their guns is pretty annoying, massive NM HE and AP shells bouncing off tin-can Cruisers 3, 4, 5 at a time causing 0 damage is another one that can give people the impression the game is simply broken, in what sort of crazy fantasy would those two game mechanics be deliberate?

Having to face a whole side of BB's in higher tiers with much greater range and speed than you over and over again is also very tiring. A DD's speed, torps, small size and manoeuvrability surely makes it easy enough for even a semi skilled captain to use to be effective without also the need to be invisible.

 

Maybe the devs should think about not being so completely silly?

 

[Userext]

And yet if i pay i can extend the 15KM range on NM, i can as you say get 50% extra XP, don't pretend that isn't significant.

 

You pay with IN GAME CREDITS to get that upgrade

 

As for game mechanics, well DD with cloaking devices suddenly going invisible 4KM off your side while firing their guns is pretty annoying, massive NM HE and AP shells bouncing off tin-can Cruisers 3, 4, 5 at a time causing 0 damage is another one that can give people the impression the game is simply broken, in what sort of crazy fantasy would those two game mechanics be deliberate?

Having to face a whole side of BB's in higher tiers with much greater range and speed than you over and over again is also very tiring.

 

Again another lie. At best a DD can be invisible at 6km+ range. And thats with tier 9+ upgrade and 5th captain skill

The game isnt broken you just dont understand how it works. This is pretty much like witch hunting. I dont understand it! BURN IT!

And again we see you have no idea about game. Higher tiers usually have pretty close range. And people with brains wouldnt fire at max range anyway because its easy to dodge them.

Tin can cruisers? angling.... You dont fire a shot that hit ships with 90 degree angle. Besides unlike wot. Wows doesnt have a RNG for damage or RNG for penetration value. yet its somehow more complex to you....

 

Maybe the devs should think about not being so completely silly?

 

Yes they definetly should listen to the guy that UNDERPERFORMS with the ship he is complaining about. 

[AgarwaenME]

 

And yet if i pay i can extend the 15KM range on NM, i can as you say get 50% extra XP, don't pretend that isn't significant.

 

As for game mechanics, well DD with cloaking devices suddenly going invisible 4KM off your side while firing their guns is pretty annoying, massive NM HE and AP shells bouncing off tin-can Cruisers 3, 4, 5 at a time causing 0 damage is another one that can give people the impression the game is simply broken, in what sort of crazy fantasy would those two game mechanics be deliberate?

Having to face a whole side of BB's in higher tiers with much greater range and speed than you over and over again is also very tiring. A DD's speed, torps, small size and manoeuvrability surely makes it easy enough for even a semi skilled captain to use to be effective without also the need to be invisible.

 

Maybe the devs should think about not being so completely silly?

 

 

*Anyone can buy upgrades for ships, they are not premium only items.

*No DD has detection that low. And DDs without good concealment would never do damage, nor survive games for longer than a few minutes (and the only possible way to play them would be long range torps, which BB captains have whined away). And DDs are already at the bottom of the pack for damage done.

*HE shells cannot "bounce" period, and AP shells only bounce off incredibly well angled CAs (and even then can easily citadel them).

*If you face a "whole side" of higher tier BBs alone, then either you sat too far behind until your entire team died, or you went solo. In both cases you should sink.

 

Maybe you should ask yourself why you do so little damage compared to most others using the same ships, before you call the devs silly?

 

[Frakk01]

 

You pay with IN GAME CREDITS to get that upgrade

 

 

Again another lie. At best a DD can be invisible at 6km+ range. And thats with tier 9+ upgrade and 5th captain skill

The game isnt broken you just dont understand how it works. This is pretty much like witch hunting. I dont understand it! BURN IT!

And again we see you have no idea about game. Higher tiers usually have pretty close range. And people with brains wouldnt fire at max range anyway because its easy to dodge them.

Tin can cruisers? angling.... You dont fire a shot that hit ships with 90 degree angle. Besides unlike wot. Wows doesnt have a RNG for damage or RNG for penetration value. yet its somehow more complex to you....

 

 

Yes they definetly should listen to the guy that UNDERPERFORMS with the ship he is complaining about. 

 

Well it didn't take long to be called a liar, there is not a word of a lie in that, your experience may well be different to mine but then i suspect with an account like yours it would be.

i'm putting down my experience of the game, i do actually enjoy playing it, altho my enjoyment of it is in decline i still do.

I maybe rubbish as you say but i'm not stupid.

 

Have fun by yourselves for as short as this will last, the attitude is pretty clear.

 

I'm out, much better things to do.

[Userext]

 

Well it didn't take long to be called a liar, there is not a word of a lie in that, your experience may well be different to mine but then i suspect with an account like yours it would be.

i'm putting down my experience of the game, i do actually enjoy playing it, altho my enjoyment of it is in decline i still do.

I maybe rubbish as you say but i'm not stupid.

 

Have fun by yourselves for as short as this will last, the attitude is pretty clear.

 

I'm out, much better things to do.

 

if you didnt want to be called liar dont say stuff that is against game's mechanism without a solid proof. This is like saying nazis won WW2. Or saying GTA V will be console exclusive and PC wont receive it. Just a simple lie

 

Ah the classic. "i m out" 

[ollonborre]

To make one thing clear, 700 XP on a defeat without premium is not so bad. Not great but not terrible either.

 

And 28k average damage in the New Mexico is not great either. Unless you want to spend 500k credits on the range upgrade I advise you to learn positioning so you can get more damage out and earn more XP. Youtubers Flamu and iChase are a good way to start.

 

And getting battle heroes awards nets you flags that also can boost your progress, so that is also a good incentive to work towards.

 

[Agantas]

I think he means popping smoke by that "cloaking device" at 4 km.

 

To OP: There is more to it than just push a button and disappear, though. Stop worrying about xp progression and learn to play New Mexico better. Personally, I've kept my New Mexico. It is a good ship. Colorado has less guns, which makes New Mexico better BB against cruisers (while Colorado is better against BBs). You'll start losing credits with that kind of performance at tier 7.

[Admiral_noodle]

OP. Do you want to learn about how to maximise XP so you can level up or complain it's the games fault.

There is a lot of good advice in this thread.

Yes. The game is pay to rush. You'll get new ships faster if you pay. However there are plenty of free things you can do and know about to get better XP.

1 - winning is worth more. This is to reward players who play for the team who might sacrifice damage for winning. This is a good thing.
2 - XP is based on the % health of a target you take off. Halving a dd is the same in XP as halving a BB
3 - capping gets XP
4 - shooting down planes is useful but does not get you much XP as there is next to no skill.
5 - flags. Earn them from kraken and confederate. Put these on your grind ships to maximise XP gain

 

Finally. And I like this. Poor XP slows people's progression. They simply aren't good enough to face the challenge of the next tier. It always pays to "get good" at a ship before moving up. 

 

Also. I looked at your New Mexico stats. Your average damage of 27k is 40k less than mine. The obvious way you can improve your XP is to improve your gameplay and simply do more. A good game in New Mexico is >100k damage. Anything less than 50k is meh. Let that be your standard and good luck.