Cosseria Players 1,064 posts 4,944 battles Report post #26 Posted August 7, 2016 I get bottom tier so often in my T 8 matches that I don't even notice anymore. It's expecially fun with a Tashkent as you are basically there to be the towed target for T X cruisers and Khabas. With other ships, I try to stick to a T X big stick and act as support. I lose most of the battles but I seldom end with negative credits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ALONE] Smeggo Modder 2,485 posts 15,339 battles Report post #27 Posted August 7, 2016 T8 is the moment when WG says: Ok, you've enjoyed or game so far, so when you want those shiny T10-ships, now you'll have to suffer or pay to get there Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #28 Posted August 7, 2016 Yeah well, it's not literally unplayable, but I really have no intention of seeing Yamatos, Khabas, Zaos, and such all day long. And Admiral, it's not bad luck. You can't tell me that out of dozens upon dozens of matches in every T8 ship I grind at least 75% are T10 because of bad luck. Those screenshots I posted in the opening post aren't a fluke. It really has been like that for weeks. Anyway, you only had 1 T8 match in the last 3 weeks (that I can see)! Getting bored of the game? Testing some German goodness? I had many many tier 8 games... In fact quite a few because I couldn't get in a tier X full match and needed to test it there! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IRQ] AnotherDuck [IRQ] Players 2,930 posts 7,510 battles Report post #29 Posted August 7, 2016 So, according to the forums, there are three types of games: low tier games, tier 7 games with all T5-T7 ships, and T10 games, with all T8-T10 ships. Nothing else exists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #30 Posted August 7, 2016 I get bottom tier so often in my T 8 matches that I don't even notice anymore. It's expecially fun with a Tashkent as you are basically there to be the towed target for T X cruisers and Khabas. With other ships, I try to stick to a T X big stick and act as support. I lose most of the battles but I seldom end with negative credits. Oh I'd love to have that Tashkent when I'm sitting in my New Orleans trying to dodge T10 cruiser and Yamato bullets.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] lup3s Players 5,744 posts 32,730 battles Report post #31 Posted August 7, 2016 (edited) So, according to the forums, there are three types of games: low tier games, tier 7 games with all T5-T7 ships, and T10 games, with all T8-T10 ships. Nothing else exists. exactly a rant due to major frustration: :edit: 11 games played today with T8 ships, 10 of them were a T10 battle. and I F***ING HATE T10s that won't pull their weight and just camp in the back the entire game :edit2: 'but T10 shouldn't be a problem for a T8 DD' right .... Spoiler I hate the Bastion game mode. Only played it 3 times so far but I already never want to play it again. :edit3: of course the one top tier battle I get is a f***ing Standard Battle; and of course the enemy won by capping :edit4: what about MM mirroring? 3 T8 DDs vs 3 T9 DDs? MM working as planned Edited August 7, 2016 by lup3s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IRQ] AnotherDuck [IRQ] Players 2,930 posts 7,510 battles Report post #32 Posted August 7, 2016 exactly Counting the games I had today (10-20 something), I had maybe two or three that weren't in those specific tiers. On the other hand, most of the time I was grinding damage in Nagato, so all good. Well, aside from the regular crap summer players who can't find the chair they're sitting on, and me doing completely horrible in ARP Haguro. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] lup3s Players 5,744 posts 32,730 battles Report post #33 Posted August 7, 2016 Counting the games I had today (10-20 something), I had maybe two or three that weren't in those specific tiers. Almost 20 games played today, all but one were those specific tiers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NKK] valrond Beta Tester 884 posts 12,994 battles Report post #34 Posted August 8, 2016 I agree with what people see here. Playing tier 5 or tier 8 is not fun at all. If you pick a tier 5, odds are you'll be fighting a tier 7 match, and same with tier 8, you'll be fighting tier 10. And it's not that if you can play, take advantage, you can manage to do a good game, the OP said it, it's just that is is frustrating to be handed the short end of the stick almost every freaking time, and yes, it puts you off. You take your Tier 5 ships, get into a tier 7 match, play again, again tier 7, then I take my Kutuzov or Tirpitz or Lo Yang, and bang, tier 10. They should restrict the MM to +/-1 tier, and that's it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHTBN] _Zug_Zwang_ Players 103 posts 4,936 battles Report post #35 Posted August 8, 2016 (edited) the 2 tier gap is non-sense ... a 1 tier gap would be more than enough ... OP is right about tier 8 ... basically 3/4 games are T10 games ... edit: and it is not just the fact that you are playing vs much better ships ... but it is the overall 'feel', gameplay, maps, enemy ships ... if i feel like a tier x game i should be able to get that ... not put in different tier/galaxy (and in a standard battle on top of that ...LOL ... rage quitting is clearly on the table in that case) Edited August 8, 2016 by Radu__RM Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pajosaurus Players 472 posts 3,545 battles Report post #36 Posted August 9, 2016 Okay, I officially made my peace with the notion that this game is hellbent on trolling me so hard. Finally, finally I get 2 nice matches in my Mogami that aren't Tier 10. The result? I don't have screenshots, but this will do, I think. At least i burned 22cm in his New Orleans down to a nice crisp! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,578 battles Report post #37 Posted August 10, 2016 I agree with what people see here. Playing tier 5 or tier 8 is not fun at all. If you pick a tier 5, odds are you'll be fighting a tier 7 match, and same with tier 8, you'll be fighting tier 10. Agreed, new patch completely fucked the MM for those tiers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,578 battles Report post #38 Posted August 10, 2016 At least i burned 22cm in his New Orleans down to a nice crisp! Grinding New Orleans in mostly tier 10 games is no fun at all. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #39 Posted August 10, 2016 Tier 5-7 matches were the norm before the patch. I was whining about it long before the MM changes! Stop blaming the patch without actual evidence. I agree it seems that a lot of matches are 5-7 and 8-10 and this is annoying. However this is due to player distribution I would propose an amendment to MM which simply STOPS you being continually bottom tier. Like 2 in a row then no, you can't be bottom (same for top) to make it less annoying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #40 Posted August 10, 2016 Grinding New Orleans in mostly tier 10 games is no fun at all. Nor the Hipper or chapyev. I have these three cruisers (and NO) and no real will to play them at the moment for fear of the dreaded tier X match Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] lup3s Players 5,744 posts 32,730 battles Report post #41 Posted August 10, 2016 Tier 5-7 matches were the norm before the patch. I was whining about it long before the MM changes! Stop blaming the patch without actual evidence. I agree it seems that a lot of matches are 5-7 and 8-10 and this is annoying. However this is due to player distribution I would propose an amendment to MM which simply STOPS you being continually bottom tier. Like 2 in a row then no, you can't be bottom (same for top) to make it less annoying. tbh I did get a reasonable amount of T3-T5 or T4-T6 matches before the patch. now it's just.. bad I stopped playing my T5 and T6 ships. The MM for T8 ships is also bad (or I'm just extremely unlucky the past couple of months), but I want to get to T10 so can't stop playing them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #42 Posted August 10, 2016 tbh I did get a reasonable amount of T3-T5 or T4-T6 matches before the patch. now it's just.. bad I stopped playing my T5 and T6 ships. The MM for T8 ships is also bad (or I'm just extremely unlucky the past couple of months), but I want to get to T10 so can't stop playing them This could be self fulfilling prophecy. If no one plays tier 5s the rest may all end up in tier 7. I too am not playing my Murmansk. It is on hold. I expect WG will make changes if they see clumps in MM. So don't despair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] lup3s Players 5,744 posts 32,730 battles Report post #43 Posted August 10, 2016 This could be self fulfilling prophecy. If no one plays tier 5s the rest may all end up in tier 7. I too am not playing my Murmansk. It is on hold. I expect WG will make changes if they see clumps in MM. So don't despair. It kind of is, come to think of it. I'm surely not helping And I do hope some changes will be made, I really liked playing the ARP BBs and T5 cruisers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #44 Posted August 10, 2016 well WG will need to - understand the humps and what thats doing to game distribution. Put in place steps to deal with it. Might be as easy as "we need some missions for tiers 5/6 only" for a while *or something* 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites