Current sweetspot?

[brutus007]

Is it just me or does T7 look like a sweetspot these days?

- you have same guns as T8 (on cruiser at least)

- you do not meet T10 ships

- main disadvantage against T8 are softstats

- T9 are not that frequent to play against

 

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Thinking about getting T7 premium instead of T8.

[Userext]

well T6 T7 is the sweetspot for over a year so yeah.

[Allied_Winter]

I have perception, that the Low-Tier MM changes, tipped the sweet spot from T6 to T7 (at least for me).

 

Those matches I had as a T6 were either T5/T6 or T6/T8. However as T7 I was mostly top tier. But that could be also confirmation bias, as my sample sizer with 0.5.9 is rather small.

 

 

Greetings

[El_Pollo_Locooo]

For me, t5 is where the fun lays.

[Wolfenbane]

Tiers 4 to 6 have always been more fun for me.

[Surmaaja]

I have perception, that the Low-Tier MM changes, tipped the sweet spot from T6 to T7 (at least for me).

 

Those matches I had as a T6 were either T5/T6 or T6/T8. However as T7 I was mostly top tier. But that could be also confirmation bias, as my sample sizer with 0.5.9 is rather small.

 

 

Greetings

 

I'm under similar impression. T6 seems to get the short end of the stick more than before nowadays.

[dasCKD]

Depends entirely on the ship really. The tier 8 premiums are equal to their regular tech tree counterparts usually with one or two extremely large advantages. What you are asking for is a sweet spot though, which I can only really speak for in ships lines I am familiar with.

 

IJN destroyers

No, not even close. I can argue, at length, why the tier 7 Hatsuharu is the worst Japanese destroyer as well as possibly the worst destroyer in the entire game. The IJN sweet spots are at tier 5 with the blisteringly fast Minekaze and her autoloading torpedoes and at tier 8 with the Fubuki with her lethal Ibuki torpedoes and virtually cruiser tier guns.

 

IJN cruisers

Probably, yes. The Mogami isn't significantly more powerful than the Myoko in any way that really matters apart from concealment, and the strength of the IJN cruisers are as flamethrowers to make sure that enemy ships never get a second of rest so you'd be spotted for most of the match anyways. The Ibuki is just like the Mogami with more range, not exactly a fun ship. The IJN highlights are at tiers 4 (allegedly), 5, 7, and 10.

 

IJN battleships

No. The Tiers 5, 6, 7, 8, and 10 are all very different ships with all very different strengths but the tier 7 is in no way special in any regard.

 

IJN carriers

I would say yes, though you probably don't play carriers so you don't care.

 

USN destroyers

No. From tiers 4, 5, 6, to 7, the ships shows a very smooth progression in terms of ship efficiency. The health increases whilst the guns stay the same and the consumables and torpedoes becomes better so the ships are superior up the tiers, but so are the enemies those ships fight. If there is a sweet spot in the US destroyer line, it's the Benson with her excellent concealment and her tiny ship profile. Haven't taken her out for a spin yet though so I can speak to that.

 

USN cruisers

I liked the Pensacola. That said, she's an awkward ship and both the tier 6 and the tier 8 USN cruisers have things that they are significantly better than the Pensacola at.

 

USN battleships

The Colorado is notoriously bad. I can't say, never played her myself. The New Mexico is bad though.

 

USN carriers

The Ranger lacks the air dominance over the IJN line that the Langley, Bogue, and Indy had and the Lexington is such a massive improvement in destructive potential that she is often renowned for being one of the worst carriers of the USN lines. She's not a bad carrier though, not from what I did with her on the test server. Still, not a sweet spot.

 

SN destroyers

The Kiev needed to be nerfed so we probably had a sweet spot ship here.

 

SN cruisers

The Budyonny appears to be the sweet spot of this line if the stats are anything to go by. She's significantly more maneuverable than the Kirov but she still has the gun range and HE reload speed at the kinds of tiers before the battleship gun lethality starts to really come into play.

 

KM cruisers

The York is literally the WORST SHIP in the entire game. Her HE DPS is worst than a FUBUKI's. She is a cruiser with a worse HE DPS than an IJN destroyer! Her AP can't hit anything that's not within spitting distance of her. And a Cleveland's shells finds citadels more often than the York's. The German tier 6 is just the tier 5 reskinned, but at least she isn't this awful.

[Admiral_noodle]

Personally I like 6-7-8 the best. I don't have issues with being bottom tier in these tiers.

And don't diss the Yorck! Excellent ship.

 

favourite ships for me:

 

New Mexico

Warspite

Budyonny

Shchorrs

Yorck

Nagato

Amagi

Chapyev

 

tier 6-7-8 you get most out of the game in my opinion. 

[dasCKD]

Personally I like 6-7-8 the best. I don't have issues with being bottom tier in these tiers.

 

And don't diss the Yorck! Excellent ship.

 

I did my maths. She has 77% the HE DPS of a Fubuki without that skill that speeds up your gun reloads for shells under 139 mm. She handles like a drunken battleship. Her torpedoes are practically Russian. I had more luck hitting destroyers with a Mahan with AFT than hitting anything not beached and nailed down with the York's AP. Her only redeeming trait is her hydroacoustics which I can't even use because every Ranger, Hiryu, and Saipan within the thousand kilometer radius is lining up to rape her into the deepest part of the Marianas Trench every time she pokes her bow out of port.

 

Admiral Noodle, you may be a significantly better and more knowledgeable player than me, but I WILL NOT back down on this. The York sucks.

[Admiral_noodle]

 

I did my maths. She has 77% the HE DPS of a Fubuki without that skill that speeds up your gun reloads for shells under 139 mm. She handles like a drunken battleship. Her torpedoes are practically Russian. I had more luck hitting destroyers with a Mahan with AFT than hitting anything not beached and nailed down with the York's AP. Her only redeeming trait is her hydroacoustics which I can't even use because every Ranger, Hiryu, and Saipan within the thousand kilometer radius is lining up to rape her into the deepest part of the Marianas Trench every time she pokes her bow out of port.

 

Admiral Noodle, you may be a significantly better and more knowledgeable player than me, but I WILL NOT back down on this. The York sucks.

 

I only have 33 games in her but a 67% WR and 43k average damage. You also dissed New Mexico which is the most awesome of ships

 

I think it comes down to personal preference. 

[SinkTheOthersNotMe]

Sweetspots for me:

USN DD starting with Nicholas up to tier 8

IJN DD: Fubuki

USSR DD: Ognevoi till tier 8

USSR CA: Molotov and Kirov

USN BB: All USN BB except SC

USN CA: I suck with them

IJN BB: All but best  is my Izumo

IJN CA: I suck except with furutaka

CV: I suck so none

[Ictogan]

Sweetspots in various lines for me:

USN CVs: t4

USN BBs: t8

USN CAs: t6(although I've only played this line up to t7)

USN DDs: t6, t8, t9

KM CAs: t5, t7, t9

USSR CAs: t6

USSR DDs: t7, probably also t9 and t10 although I've not played them yet

IJN CVs: t8, t10

IJN BBs: t6, t7, t8, t9

IJN CAs: t5, t7, probably t10

IJN DDs: t5, t8

[Siegwald]

For me, the sweet spot are also tiers 6 to 8 (plus Murmansk - 5, Fletcher and Udaloi - 9).

 

I have to admit I immensely enjoy sailing my Fletcher and Udaloi. And on average, I don't lose money in the two tier 9s so far (with premium).

But when I want to actively make money or just play some relaxed matches without worrying about a possible derp, I go back to the medium tiers.

[dasCKD]

 

I only have 33 games in her but a 67% WR and 43k average damage. You also dissed New Mexico which is the most awesome of ships

 

I think it comes down to personal preference. 

 

This would probably be a good time to civilly agree and let it go, but that would require that I had at least some measure of maturity, humility, or self awareness. Instead I will jam my fingers in my ears and make unintelligible sounds.

[shamelesscreature]

KM cruisers

The York is literally the WORST SHIP in the entire game. Her HE DPS is worst than a FUBUKI's. She is a cruiser with a worse HE DPS than an IJN destroyer! Her AP can't hit anything that's not within spitting distance of her. And a Cleveland's shells finds citadels more often than the York's. The German tier 6 is just the tier 5 reskinned, but at least she isn't this awful.

 

Err what? Yorck has 116k DPS with HE, which is the same as the Baltimore. Better than Pensacola, New Orleans and certainly Fubuki. 

[xeransa]

As soon as you hit tier 8 if you are playing without premium the repair bills start to hurt plus you also have to play against t10 ships so yeah 7 is a nice place to be. I usually get a ship line to tier 8 then stop playing. That being said I don't think there are many really fun ships at tier 7 whereas tier 8 has a whole host of fun ships.

[fnord_disc]

T7 is the sweet spot for me, hands down.

[basharran]

Leaning towards tier 7 as sweet spot as well (got almost all tier 7 ships except CV's now).

[dasCKD]

 

Err what? Yorck has 116k DPS with HE, which is the same as the Baltimore. Better than Pensacola, New Orleans and certainly Fubuki. 

 

They do now. Don't you remember what her guns were like in 5.8?

[Ictogan]

 

They do now. Don't you remember what her guns were like in 5.8?

 

AFAIK nothing changed about them?

[dasCKD]

 

AFAIK nothing changed about them?

 

Look, either the reload time and damage per shell changed or I am going insane and quite frankly the second is extremely unlikely considering my age.

[Ictogan]

 

Look, either the reload time and damage per shell changed or I am going insane and quite frankly the second is extremely unlikely considering my age.

 

Well, the HE on it was great when I played it and that was months ago.

[creamgravy]

Another vote for tier 7!

 

Concealment System Modification 1 wrecks tier 8+ balance, I hate it more than useless carrier players.

 

Depends entirely on the ship really. The tier 8 premiums are equal to their regular tech tree counterparts usually with one or two extremely large advantages. What you are asking for is a sweet spot though, which I can only really speak for in ships lines I am familiar with.

 

IJN destroyers

No, not even close. I can argue, at length, why the tier 7 Hatsuharu is the worst Japanese destroyer as well as possibly the worst destroyer in the entire game. The IJN sweet spots are at tier 5 with the blisteringly fast Minekaze and her autoloading torpedoes and at tier 8 with the Fubuki with her lethal Ibuki torpedoes and virtually cruiser tier guns.

 

 

Hatsuharu is my fav IJN destroyer. Minekaze/Kamikaze game play is a bit one dimensional and Fubuki is slow and clunky. Hatsu is nice mix between the two once you've figured her out. 

[fnord_disc]

Yorck: 5rpm*2900dmg*8barrels = 116k

Fubuki: 6.7*2100*6 = 84.4k

[plammbeach]

tier 6 + tier 7  have the most balance if you ask me.! there aren't really any "powerships", - a skilled player can get away with playing most ships in those tiers. maybe sharnhost/flint will change this.. idk.

 

The thing i really like tier 8, the destroyers balance is pretty cool, tashkent vs benson vs fubuki they each have their own niche. but they will sometimes play against tier 10, where people just dont wanna help-(playing objectives). In most cases. and the game gets extremely dull; or onesided very quickly.