[OM] ghostbuster_ Players 4,996 posts 21,846 battles Report post #76 Posted June 2, 2018 6 hours ago, ThinderChief said: What would be VERY interesting would be a more detailed stat, who kill what with what, with which amo for example, i'm sure we would have some surprises, like figuring that half of the geezers with stats over 50% plays exclusively or almost O.P ships or pay-to-win like the Missouri, while others, who don't bother playing a ship for the result stick with the one they like. How many of you "unicums" bother playing ships that are below 50% win rates in their tiers? That would be Gearing or even more Shimakaze with tX DdS, and with Cruisers only the Des Moines is above 50%, there's a good reason for those ships to show below average stats, but eh, not everyone is that good... https://postimg.cc/image/farrxsxyj/ You forgot to write that unicums have always luck but no skill. They are the luckiest guys on the earth who get amazing shots, so many fires per game. But hey those have nothing to do with good aim and many shell hits per battle. Its ALL luck. They shoot down planes way faster than a potato does. Because it cant be the better speced captain. It gotta also be luck. They dodge torpedos. This one has absolutely nothing to do with map awareness. All LUCK. They just accidentally press wasd keys at the right time. some people... 4 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zappori Beta Tester 287 posts 9,507 battles Report post #77 Posted June 2, 2018 The game is not designed to provide for meaningful gaming / competition experience, but to provide enough of dopamine loop and channel your frustration (as any addict will be frustrated, in this case dopamine addict) into their premium shop. Always looking for that edge, and that fix. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PONYD] Igarigen Beta Tester 7,985 posts 12,672 battles Report post #78 Posted June 2, 2018 At least it took him only two years to answer. Same Forum Skill Level as ingame i presume. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #79 Posted June 2, 2018 Monster-necro just to rant at a two years old post, complete with a personal attack. Oh boy ... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #80 Posted June 2, 2018 Justice can never rest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #81 Posted June 2, 2018 13 hours ago, ThinderChief said: LOL! Haters got to do what haters do... some guys are so addicted to their stats they blame everyone and everything, but just forget, "noobs", "patatoes" etc feed their stats, i would LOVE to see them play exclusively against vs players of their levels for fun, i bet many "unicums" would look rather average then...... It's not just about stats. It's the utter dissatisfaction you get from a match that was lost because a good part of your team couldn't pull off the most basic of tactics to win. If I was to lose because the enemy just pulled off a better tactic and outplayed me, it'd be far less infuriating and still somewhat enjoyable. Even if it still lowers my winrate. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAIN] Jethro_Grey Players 5,207 posts 25,668 battles Report post #82 Posted June 2, 2018 Dat necro... but at least I had a good laugh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThinderChief Players 1,071 posts 31,533 battles Report post #83 Posted June 3, 2018 20 hours ago, dCK_Ad_Hominem said: Well, I play both the Shima and gearing at unicum level and do quite well in those I'd say. People just need to understand that random battles are exactly that: random. To assume that good players only play "op" ships is disregarding a lot of skill. Apart from some t7 prems I'm also hard pressed to name a ship that is actually op and not just annoying to face (hello republique). It's not an assumption at all, it's real life ships stats and i did not say ALL good players only play O.P ships, you are the one making assumptions here. What i am saying (again), is that an average player is much more likely to do better with a strong ship than a weaker one, that's what those stats shows, and if there were only players of relatively equal levels in this game, half of you "unicums" if not more would be average, SO, in regard to this topic subject, i point out that complaining about "bad players" is a little bit hypocritical, since you guys farm on them, after all they pay for their games too, sometimes more than you do. (topic campaigns, rewards, consumable, Captain Skills and special skills etc). Quote Apart from some t7 prems I'm also hard pressed to name a ship that is actually op and not just annoying to face (hello republique). You have the list, all top Ds with above 50% win rates, in particular the Yueyang, Khabarovsk and Z-52, when you see the way their players are farming on other Dds it's disgusting, but of course if your mentality resumes to "its a game" and "Dds" are a good source of XP", then i guess it's perfectly OK, but 45+% deficit in fire power makes the Shimakaze under-powered compared to even a Gearing, and that's a fact, so average players will struggle to cope, hence the ship stats. Sorry but i'm a dissident, the only ship remotely stronger than some i use is the Zao, you think Republique is a problem? Think, it's only good in engine boost and then again not against other BBs, a lot easier to deal with with a Shima than any of those 3 Dds, two Cruisers focus-firing at it will get it down faster than most other BBs too and i guess, so would a well played Khabarovsk from tVIII, all French Bbs burn like bron fire, so i guess with a Shima, yes you might find them annoying. When it comes to BBs win rates, you can see than the classical Yamato and Montana are second last and last, this is due to the introduction of the other lines, which they struggle to cope with, Conqueror in particular, with ridiculous fire chance and heal capabilities, not mentioning their concealment, there's a good reason why it's top, since they play mostly from the back of the grid, it's one of the most elusive targets for torp boats. i call them Zippos. Quote The biggest difference between players is understanding mechanics and the flow of the game. This leads to good positioning, use of consumables and effective use of torps for example. I completely agree with you but i also point out that this is not possible to do without a good team, especially with a number of radar ships on the rise, if your team doesn't understand the importance of taking them down and responding to calls for fire support, i dont think you can carry the game for them with a Shimakaze and all your Ds will be dead early enough to loose you the game. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThinderChief Players 1,071 posts 31,533 battles Report post #84 Posted June 3, 2018 18 hours ago, Riselotte said: It's not just about stats. It's the utter dissatisfaction you get from a match that was lost because a good part of your team couldn't pull off the most basic of tactics to win. If I was to lose because the enemy just pulled off a better tactic and outplayed me, it'd be far less infuriating and still somewhat enjoyable. Even if it still lowers my winrate. Man, if you have seen the chat of the topic posters in one game i was you wouldn't disagree. Hating stats lover Ayatollah style... Blaming bad teams is a common thing isn't it? I could say the same all the time, playing with guys who keep hitting the "Capture this area key" when you play a Shimakaze and there are 5 radar ships (or more) plus gunboats in the game is always a pleasure. LOL! That would be 75% of my games, when i play with a good team i don't finish on top or top 3 but in middle score, they take care of radars without me asking, don't pressure a torp boat for caping (some [edited] even fire at me when i don't), there is always a reason to blame others, but it is not what is going to help improving the game, since there are a lot of other parameters that makes a team win or loose. A well balanced team, not necessarily the best but a balanced one CAN win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThinderChief Players 1,071 posts 31,533 battles Report post #85 Posted June 3, 2018 20 hours ago, ghostbuster_ said: You forgot to write that unicums have always luck but no skill. They are the luckiest guys on the earth who get amazing shots, so many fires per game. But hey those have nothing to do with good aim and many shell hits per battle. Its ALL luck. They shoot down planes way faster than a potato does. Because it cant be the better speced captain. It gotta also be luck. They dodge torpedos. This one has absolutely nothing to do with map awareness. All LUCK. They just accidentally press wasd keys at the right time. some people... Excuse me but i have no need for gunnery course. As for your moral, only a look at your lexicon is enough to stop taking your bunch seriously. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jbnn Players 65 posts 9 battles Report post #86 Posted June 6, 2018 Come on... another one showed up Just stop wasting time browsing old pages of threads which died years ago... Is that difficult to just create a new one? Closing this thread... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
