talk about a game being high tier.... xD

[chaosrealm93]

 

 we won

only took about 900pts of damage

lucky shells from a dying baltimore

 

[Smeggo]

poor Hipper 

 

[chaosrealm93]

poor Hipper 

 

ohh he got screwed alright....... but not as hard as the fubuki

 

he flashed into detection and i landed a 6.5k volley on him

[Pekoe_Darjeeling]

 

ohh he got screwed alright....... but not as hard as the fubuki

 

he flashed into detection and i landed a 6.5k volley on him

 

I have heard it's more fun to have +-2 tiers of difference and the game is more "challenging" while having ships of the same tier playing against each other is "boring".

[chaosrealm93]

 

I have heard it's more fun to have +-2 tiers of difference and the game is more "challenging" while having ships of the same tier playing against each other is "boring".

 

the power difference is too great 

that may be true for tiers 1-4, but at least for the hipper, he couldnt even see me throughout the entire game  

[AnotherDuck]

ohh he got screwed alright....... but not as hard as the fubuki

he flashed into detection and i landed a 6.5k volley on him

 

A Fubuki doesn't really have that much trouble at T10. Sure, it's not as effective as the two higher tier IJN DDs (although some would exclude Kagero from that), but it works. A Zao is the worst thing you could meet in one, though. That goes for any DD, though.

[duoinvasion]

i remember that game, was fun : D

[chaosrealm93]

 

A Fubuki doesn't really have that much trouble at T10. Sure, it's not as effective as the two higher tier IJN DDs (although some would exclude Kagero from that), but it works. A Zao is the worst thing you could meet in one, though. That goes for any DD, though.

 

forget the fubuki, even in a zao, i dont want to meet another zao  

 

[Pekoe_Darjeeling]

 

A Fubuki doesn't really have that much trouble at T10. 

 

Khabarovsk or Gearing? No problemo for Fubuki best DD in the game.

[duoinvasion]

 

forget the fubuki, even in a zao, i dont want to meet another zao  

 

 

zao vs zao comes down to who has better damage rolls and fire RNG on HE which makes my life difficult 

[AnotherDuck]

Khabarovsk or Gearing? No problemo for Fubuki best DD in the game.

 

Not having that much trouble != best DD. She's smaller than Gearing, and significantly smaller than Khaba, so you can usually stay out of sight, while at the same time spotting those so your allied cruisers can have some fun.

 

Of all the T8 ships, she's probably the one that has the best chance in a T10 match, since the IJN DDs are overall the least tier sensitive ships in the game. The worst part about Fubuki is probably her manoeuvrability. Rather sluggish compared to most other DDs.

 

forget the fubuki, even in a zao, i dont want to meet another zao  

 

Well, she is one of the most fearsome ships in the game. And you usually don't want to meet the same ship as yourself, since that's a 50% chance of winning, skill aside. You don't want fair fights.

[Comrad_StaIin]

oh you...pls dont play the Zao man

[chaosrealm93]

 

zao vs zao comes down to who has better damage rolls and fire RNG on HE which makes my life difficult 

 

yeah pretty much, zao is pretty much the only T10 cruiser that can fight another zao effectively

 

moskva - stalinium shells and good HE yes, but angle and a lot of them bounce, plus hes a giant target

hindenburg - angle, angle, angle

DM - as if you can actually hit me with those arcs...

[chaosrealm93]

oh you...pls dont play the Zao man

 

its my go-to ship

(that and the benson, it always gives me the feeling of "i have a chance" whenever i jump in)

those railguns are  A D D I C T I V E .

[Comrad_StaIin]

 

its my go-to ship

those railguns are  A D D I C T I V E .

 

the Zao is like an i win Button 

if you want to fight a Zao you CANT because you cant see it and what you cant see you cant shoot so no surprise you only lost 900HP

 

the Khaba is equally strong but for this thing you at lest need SOME skill 

but in the Zao even the lowest scrub can perform well in it with its ridicoules napalm rounds

and ivisi cloak

the Sad thing is WG thinks its fine.....

 

 

I'm not saying you are a bad player because of it...

[chaosrealm93]

 

the Zao is like an i win Button 

if you want to fight a Zao you CANT because you cant see it and what you cant see you cant shoot so no surprise you only lost 900HP

 

the Khaba is equally strong but for this thing you at lest need SOME skill 

but in the Zao even the lowest scrub can perform well in it with its ridicoules napalm rounds

and ivisi cloak

the Sad thing is WG thinks its fine.....

 

 

I'm not saying you are a bad player because of it...

 

well the zao is pretty mundane and middle of the road in comparison, that's probably WG gave it stealth fire

 

moskva has radar (and i think hydro)

DM has radar

hinden is AP and hydro god

 

but then again, CV is a good counter to zao

ive eaten quite a few torps to good CV captains

i guess sometimes the answer is outside the box

[avenger121]

 

the Zao is like an i win Button 

if you want to fight a Zao you CANT because you cant see it and what you cant see you cant shoot so no surprise you only lost 900HP

 

the Khaba is equally strong but for this thing you at lest need SOME skill

 

What? Please elaborate how stealth firing is easier in the Zao than the Khaba, also with the Zao you wont stealth fire all the time and it is certainly not an I-win-button. Check server stats, BBs and CVs remain supreme, but yeah, the Zao is far far better than Hindenburg or DankMemes, Moskva is on Zao performance levels.

 

 

 

Edit: I would like to write, BTT, but I fail to see the topic of this thread. Is it the MM? Looks like every other T10 match to me.

[Comrad_StaIin]

 

What? Please elaborate how stealth firing is easier in the Zao than the Khaba, also with the Zao you wont stealth fire all the time and it is certainly not an I-win-button. Check server stats, BBs and CVs remain supreme, but yeah, the Zao is far far better than Hindenburg or DankMemes, Moskva is on Zao performance levels.

 

 

 

Edit: I would like to write, BTT, but I fail to see the topic of this thread. Is it the MM? Looks like every other T10 match to me.

 

Moskva is that good because of the lack of bad players playing it

 

I dont have a Zao but I have an Ibuki and that thing isnt considered a good ship but if you fit it like a Zao it is insanely OP

just like Zao but a little worse

and it is very easy to be undetected all the time and rain down hell on BBs

 

also how often do you see CVs these days?

[avenger121]

 

Moskva is that good because of the lack of bad players playing it

 

I dont have a Zao but I have an Ibuki and that thing isnt considered a good ship but if you fit it like a Zao it is insanely OP

just like Zao but a little worse

and it is very easy to be undetected all the time and rain down hell on BBs

 

Mate please, your Ibuki sits at 49% WR and 57k DPG. The Ibuki is a good ship, no question, but how do you come to say the Zao is automaticallly OP because of the Ibuki when you cant even do 60k dmg in a T9 ship?

 

I dont want to pick at you because of your stats, but the reasoning behind you posts looks like "I am so good with Ibuki, therefore Zao must be OP" to me.

[chaosrealm93]

 

Moskva is that good because of the lack of bad players playing it

 

I dont have a Zao but I have an Ibuki and that thing isnt considered a good ship but if you fit it like a Zao it is insanely OP

just like Zao but a little worse

and it is very easy to be undetected all the time and rain down hell on BBs

 

also how often do you see CVs these days?

 

no.......... the ibuki is hardly the zao LOL

 

it has all the same problems as the mogami

random citadels, poor turret config / angles and bad ARCS to name off the top of my head

down on guns too, the mog and ibuki only has 10 guns

and fire chance doesnt seem as high

[avenger121]

I still fail to see the topic of this post, so why dont we argue about balance within the T10 cruisers and why DankMemes and Hindenburg should get buffs ASAP.

http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/20160723/eu_week/average_ship.html

http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/ranking/20160723/eu_2month/average_ship.html

	Moskva	Zao	Hindenburg	DankMemes
DPG - 1 week	71,8k	74,6k	59,4k	60,4k
DPG - 2 months	70,8k	75,4k	58,7k	57,4k

 

[Comrad_StaIin]

have I ever said I play the Ibuki as I discribed? 

I play it very agressively (maybe too agressive as seen in my stats)

I cant stand boring HE spamming Meta si I sold it

[Pekoe_Darjeeling]

 

Not having that much trouble != best DD. She's smaller than Gearing, and significantly smaller than Khaba, so you can usually stay out of sight, while at the same time spotting those so your allied cruisers can have some fun.

 

 

Ah yes now I see where the problem is - my team usually sux big time so no help ; _ ;

[Ferry_25]

poor Hipper 

 

Yeah, and frankly I'm amazed that wasn't me! Usually I am the Hipper (or equal tier) in such line-ups!

[anonym_EFwxJOPWzlER]

T8 should never be matched against T10 ship, it's one of the most stupid aspects of the game

 

Take a look at the pic, just a few minutes gone, totally outranged and battered by shells, totally unable to return fire