[STYX] Tokyo_Express Weekend Tester 15 posts 21,970 battles Report post #26 Posted August 1, 2016 May be WG should make the Karma points usefull, like to obtain some stuffs or something in this way ? By example: when u reach 10 Karma points u gain an element, 20 points other thing etc... May be it could help the community to be more respectfull ? And give at these actually useless Karma points, a system to use with ? ^^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Loran_Battle Beta Tester 1,245 posts Report post #27 Posted August 1, 2016 (edited) May be WG should make the Karma points usefull, like to obtain some stuffs or something in this way ? By example: when u reach 10 Karma points u gain an element, 20 points other thing etc... Plz not. Just the other day I lost karma, because I killed a konig in my krasny Krym. Apparently I'm not allowed to do anything in that ship. He then proceeded to call me a hacker, because I have more then 30% hitrate. And as I've said before on the forums, I've also been reported for things like playing ARP ships. As long as you can get reported by every idiot that thinks he is the single best player ever with 40% winrate, I don't want karma to mean anything. And untill you say I'm just saying this because I don't have karma. I have 44 atm. Another thing is that you can get + karma easily if you know a lot of people... As for the rest of this topic. It is online gaming. There are people that will be assholes. I'm sometimes one of them I guess, because I get pissed off at players that barely know that they have to use their mouse and keyboard (them WASD hax man). Or sit at max range. For example: I had a baltimore fleeing a Kagero a few games ago. I had to go flush him out in my Tirpitz. The balti sailed to the edge of the map and even after the kagero was dead (me and a kagero teammate), he continued sailing no less then 15km behind me, not doing anything. I definately insulted him in chat a few times. Edited August 1, 2016 by Loran_Battle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G3Virus Players 448 posts 20,182 battles Report post #28 Posted August 1, 2016 (edited) I dont find that many people rage unless there's a good reason. Sure there are a few losers that just cant accept they suck. But the real anger comes from people seeing how badly a lot of people play and the fact that repeated advice seems to have no effect. I mean every dam BB nowadays camp along the boarders. Had them in every match. The match I had now we lost, 4 BB's camping along the right side of two neighbours with full HP when we lost. Match before that we had 4 BBs in the same grid camping in spawn on the B line fore almost half the match, must have had some group thingy, and yea that caused some rage by other players. And lets not talk about CV's, when I started playing almost a year ago people laughed at CV's that could not move there ship, nowadays CV's camp stationary even if they are being flanked by superior number of ships, just sits there like they dont understand they have engines. There is autopilot that can be set before the game even begins. Dont know how often one loses CV's to that nowadays and there usually is some rage at that to. And then we have Cruisers that constantly ignores DD's as targets. And yea then there's the lemming train, I had two of them in a row today. Me and my Div decided to go on the left side on two brothers, the DD on the most outer RIGTH side decided to fallow us, so we broke off and went rigth to spot for our BB's there, the other DD turned after us AGAIN.... but when the first torps showed up he ducked out with out firing a shoot or torp, he then went ALL the way around and sat behind the rest of the ships on the left side, no spotting just looking for a free frag. I also had a DD that went fubar, Me (Crusier) and another Crusier offered support so he could cap, he hjoined us. All seems fine and well until we relies he will never stop in the cap but just runs strait trough it out to the first Cruiser he finds, the once we are keeping away from the cap so he could cap whit out being spotted. He drivese up to it drooping torps at a 3-4 km range spotted, gets nuked with detonation and misses with all torps to, yea we got no cap and we had no DD after that. Yea a lot to rage about but a lot of it is valid, especially when people refuses to accept good advice and just decides to turn there brains off and go solo yolo. Edited August 1, 2016 by G3Virus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM] ghostbuster_ Players 4,996 posts 21,846 battles Report post #29 Posted August 1, 2016 May be WG should make the Karma points usefull, like to obtain some stuffs or something in this way ? By example: when u reach 10 Karma points u gain an element, 20 points other thing etc... May be it could help the community to be more respectfull ? And give at these actually useless Karma points, a system to use with ? ^^ karma is useless. you get reported because of outplaying enemy or oneshooting them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IDDQD] Quetak Players 2,099 posts 22,396 battles Report post #30 Posted August 1, 2016 someone AFK for 5mins after battle starts deserves just one thing....be reported. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IRQ] AnotherDuck [IRQ] Players 2,930 posts 7,510 battles Report post #31 Posted August 1, 2016 someone AFK for 5mins after battle starts deserves just one thing....be reported. And you're certain it wasn't a game crash or a connection issue? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #32 Posted August 1, 2016 And you're certain it wasn't a game crash or a connection issue? Ah but... If it happens once or twice the reports won't stack up... If the player is afk all the time they will --- allowing WG to take action. a "report afk" button would be useful - not related to karma but having its own stats. Get too many AFKs over a week ---> ban. Of course you'd need to make sure players don't false report,but you can do that with advanced analytics. If a player is reporting AFKs in an "untypical" way, his reports are given less credence.. This leads to a player afk behavioural score. Add into this positive and negative reports, weight them, come up with a player overall behaviour score using modelling techniques. Then take action against players whose score is consistently low, or players whose score is deteriorating. (This is how we do it for bank customers by the way ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IRQ] AnotherDuck [IRQ] Players 2,930 posts 7,510 battles Report post #33 Posted August 1, 2016 And do you trust WG to handle things that well? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IDDQD] Quetak Players 2,099 posts 22,396 battles Report post #34 Posted August 1, 2016 And you're certain it wasn't a game crash or a connection issue? I dont care, 5mins is enought for PC/game restart. Strange is that in maybe 90% those AFKers are DDs. And I see many AFKers every day I play (someone wakes up in middle of fight). If its 1v2 DDs domination battle and your only DD is AKF then your will lose in 95% - no bases no points. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IRQ] AnotherDuck [IRQ] Players 2,930 posts 7,510 battles Report post #35 Posted August 1, 2016 I dont care, 5mins is enought for PC/game restart. You obviously don't have my computer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stixius Players 151 posts 14,253 battles Report post #36 Posted August 1, 2016 I'd been playing tanks over the weekend. And I'd forgotten how pleasant the ships community is by comparison. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RORN] GeneralDodo Players 11 posts 9,699 battles Report post #37 Posted August 1, 2016 Yesterday I Seen an youtube video when someone in Zao got reported for using ap and getting 4-5 citadels on enemy cruiser that sailed broadside ROFL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EsaTuunanen Beta Tester 3,552 posts 8,863 battles Report post #38 Posted August 1, 2016 Ah but... If it happens once or twice the reports won't stack up... If the player is afk all the time they will --- allowing WG to take action. a "report afk" button would be useful - not related to karma but having its own stats. Get too many AFKs over a week ---> ban. Of course you'd need to make sure players don't false report,but you can do that with advanced analytics. If a player is reporting AFKs in an "untypical" way, his reports are given less credence.. This leads to a player afk behavioural score. Add into this positive and negative reports, weight them, come up with a player overall behaviour score using modelling techniques. Then take action against players whose score is consistently low, or players whose score is deteriorating. (This is how we do it for bank customers by the way ) Whole complimenting/reporting system should use some kind weighting system. Report from player with bad/low Karma should have decreased weight being kept "on hold" needing other reports to have any outcome and if there are no other reports getting discarded. Again compliment from player with high Karma could even give +2. That would decrease effect of bad players blaming and reporting others for their own failures. While at the same time allowing those who don't misbehave and play decently to get Karma and keep it more easily. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #39 Posted August 1, 2016 And do you trust WG to handle things that well? Do you trust a bank Esa - your idea is good and yes. Your karma score should be weighted. And the karma you give should be weighted. dynamic karma using machine learning and modelling basically if you only report and never compliment - lower weighting. If you always use all your reports in your first game - lower weighting. Multiple reports on same player - lower weight. using compliments - higher weight. Higher karma - higher weight. compliment enemy players - higher weight etc. You can do all this in a statistical model using R or SAS tools... Wait im nerding out here Tl:dr - weighted karma is possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KaLeuWillenbrock Players 2,632 posts 3,455 battles Report post #40 Posted August 1, 2016 i wont stop reporting racist bastards. period. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_FTD_ ∞ Players 908 posts 10,097 battles Report post #41 Posted August 1, 2016 (edited) F*ck all the plebs! e/ on a serious note I don't feel like this game is bad when it comes to flaming ;ssss Edited August 1, 2016 by _FTD_ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OM] ghostbuster_ Players 4,996 posts 21,846 battles Report post #42 Posted August 1, 2016 (edited) F*ck all the plebs! e/ on a serious note I don't feel like this game is bad when it comes to flaming ;ssss mate we just had a gearing in our team. right at the beginning of the battle he was giving commands in chat to cap A but he wasnt moving. so i told him to move and to do it. the answer was epic. he said: "i´m waiting for torps to load". so yes i agree with you. Edited August 1, 2016 by ghostbuster_ 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] OldGrandad Supertester 3,404 posts 35,711 battles Report post #43 Posted August 1, 2016 mate we just had a gearing in our team. right at the beginning of the battle he was giving commands in chat to cap A but he wasnt moving. so i told him to move and to do it. the answer was epic. he said: "i´m waiting for torps to load". so yes f*ck all plebs. A screenshot of that chat would be a keeper! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ST-EU] Admiral_noodle Supertest Coordinator 6,337 posts 4,395 battles Report post #44 Posted August 1, 2016 That... Is awesome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] lup3s Players 5,744 posts 32,730 battles Report post #45 Posted August 1, 2016 (edited) why not report AFK players? or players who only start playing if already a third of the game has passed? or players who refuse to capture bases in domination? or players who refuse to defend the base if it's being capped (in normal game mode)? I'm sick of people who refuse to play as a team, and I'll report every player who deserves it (usually bots or people who are even dumber/worse than bots). On the other hand, I'll also compliment every player that deserves it. At the end of the day, I usually used all my reports and compliments. Edited August 1, 2016 by lup3s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites