T VI vs T VIII

[warsinger2]

Me in my New Mexico vs Tirpitz and friends he hit nothing except for 2 shots from his broadside, he is constantly sailing broadside and my salvos besides hitting the water left and right miss, when they hit its either bounce or 1000p while he hit 3-4k per shell without a citadel. This is [edited], he has already an HP advantage now my shells do not connect half the time because he is T VIII?

 

Anyways not fighting windmills in other games I salute the DD that snuck between the lines and torped me, a mission well done but I can not salute the T VIII dude that gets game protection against my 356mm and scores constant 3-5k hits. I am not even complaining about citadels. He sails broadside and I am head on, he hits 3 12k total, I hit 2 from my 6 front guns 1 bounces 1 1k, WTF? And you just recently "modified US Battleships!"       

 

Long story short minus one WoWS player have fun getting ripped by RNG and this company. Navyfield was a bliss compared to this. 

[Gunship14]

There IS supposed to be quite a difference in power between a tier 6 and tier 8 ship right? I mean, if higher tiers didn't get stronger, what would the point of getting them be? Just like you (used to) be able to brutally murder Myogis in your New Mexico, you sometimes get brutally murdered yourself, unless you are smart about it. When confronted with higher tiers, be smart, and don't expect to win in a fair 1v1 fight, especially with battleships.

[Mayv]

The Tirpitz is one of the hardest ships to citadel in the game. I am not surprised your New Mexico had problems.

[BuccaneerBill]

No point going head on against Tirpitz as I think his shells overmatch your bow. A good angle is best, then swivel out your back when you need to, to fire 12 gun broadsides. 20k damage salvos are then very possible on a broadside Tirpitz at about 12km or less. Aim about half way up on the hull, not the waterline though.

 

A well played new mex can kill a scrubpitz every time. A decent pitz player will win obviously but he won't be sitting broadside.

[Martinborgen]

I just find the New Mexico COMPLETE and UTTER GARBAGE. Some people swear by it, but I can't stand the useless dispersion and the useless handling. 

 

I used to do pretty decent 50+ K average damage done, but only 47% or so winrate - now that dropped to 43% after some worthless games in it. I'm considering abandoning the whole US BB line - the thought of grindng another such ship afterwards is just horrifying!

[LetsRockAndRoll]

Strangely enough a 2 tier difference isn't as marked in this game as it is in WoT. A tier 8 heavy tank in WoT just laughs at it's tier 6 counterparts even when played by a total potato. In this game a tier 6 BB can still do some serious damage or kill a potato tier 8 BB.

 

 

[Bortasqu]

He sails broadside and I am head on, he hits 3 12k total, I hit 2 from my 6 front guns 1 bounces 1 1k

 

The Tirpitz is one of the hardest ships to citadel in the game. I am not surprised your New Mexico had problems.

 

No point going head on against Tirpitz as I think his shells overmatch your bow. A good angle is best, then swivel out your back when you need to, to fire 12 gun broadsides. 20k damage salvos are then very possible on a broadside Tirpitz at about 12km or less. Aim about half way up on the hull, not the waterline though.

 

A well played new mex can kill a scrubpitz every time. A decent pitz player will win obviously but he won't be sitting broadside.

 

Seriously guys, please read what the OP wrote again.

 

This is not a tier 6 tank against a tier 8 tank, at the moment it's like one KV-2 with a broken gun against a Maus with 6 guns.

[YukiEiriKun]

See Torpitz ia any t6 ship -> HE.

And run. I don't think it is my battle to fight. Unless there are no one around to help. But at that point either I have made bad game choises or we have already lost so it really does not matter anymore.

[pra3y]

Seriously guys, please read what the OP wrote again.

 

This is not a tier 6 tank against a tier 8 tank, at the moment it's like one KV-2 with a broken gun against a Maus with 6 guns.

 

Anyways not fighting windmills in other games I salute the DD that snuck between the lines and torped me, a mission well done but I can not salute the T VIII dude that gets game protection against my 356mm and scores constant 3-5k hits. I am not even complaining about citadels. He sails broadside and I am head on, he hits 3 12k total, I hit 2 from my 6 front guns 1 bounces 1 1k, WTF? And you just recently "modified US Battleships!"       

 

Pretty sure they all read it. Perhaps its you who don't really understand?  Just because a BB isn't sailing broadside doesn't mean it cannot be penetrated or citadelled just like other ship classes. You can still citadel/ do normal damage against head/tail on target. You can't assume just because you're bow on you're invincible like a Yamato and a BB with better guns plus 2 tiers above you can't pen you from the front.

 

 From MenzGaming

 

A broadside Tirpitz is still pretty well armoured. Also how far was the engagement? RNGesus may play a part but what seems like a "broadside" Tirpitz might actually be slightly angled. Also if I'm not wrong there's a camo that slightly increases dispersion of enemy shells.

[Adwaenyth]

Me in my New Mexico vs Tirpitz and friends he hit nothing except for 2 shots from his broadside, he is constantly sailing broadside and my salvos besides hitting the water left and right miss, when they hit its either bounce or 1000p while he hit 3-4k per shell without a citadel. This is [edited], he has already an HP advantage now my shells do not connect half the time because he is T VIII?

 

Anyways not fighting windmills in other games I salute the DD that snuck between the lines and torped me, a mission well done but I can not salute the T VIII dude that gets game protection against my 356mm and scores constant 3-5k hits. I am not even complaining about citadels. He sails broadside and I am head on, he hits 3 12k total, I hit 2 from my 6 front guns 1 bounces 1 1k, WTF? And you just recently "modified US Battleships!"       

 

Long story short minus one WoWS player have fun getting ripped by RNG and this company. Navyfield was a bliss compared to this. 

 

And I took 22k damage from a New Mexico in my Tirpitz yesterday because he hit 9 of his 12 shells at 15 km. So that's that for you. Not a single citadel in there but just normal hits.

 

Besides, just be happy this isn't a simulation. Your hitrate would drop from 20-30% to something like 2-5% and you'd have to sail broadside on for most of the time to even achieve that.

[Smeggo]

I'd rather have T6vsT8 than T8vsT10. Everyone has it's personal nightmare. 

 

[ColonelPete]

Hitting has nothing to do with tiers. If you do not hit anything that has either do with bad aim or very very bad luck with RNG.

[Blindfisch]

 

And I took 22k damage from a New Mexico in my Tirpitz yesterday because he hit 9 of his 12 shells at 15 km. So that's that for you. Not a single citadel in there but just normal hits.

 

Besides, just be happy this isn't a simulation. Your hitrate would drop from 20-30% to something like 2-5% and you'd have to sail broadside on for most of the time to even achieve that.

sorry u are lying. new mexico has only a range of 14,9 km and the spreading is wide. did he cheat or u were drunk?

 

[Admiral_noodle]

sorry u are lying. new mexico has only a range of 14,9 km and the spreading is wide. did he cheat or u were drunk?

 

 

What? The range is more than that. And I've done the same in my new mex. dispersion is RNG dependent so 22k on a tirpitz isn't all that unusual. 

 

My own personal nightmare when bottom tier was Hipper in tier X without range upgrade. I was useless. 

[159Hunter]

sorry u are lying. new mexico has only a range of 14,9 km and the spreading is wide. did he cheat or u were drunk?

 

 

You might want to research B hull. Will increase your range...

[anonym_MfZ6T7iwWpUC]

I just find the New Mexico COMPLETE and UTTER GARBAGE. Some people swear by it, but I can't stand the useless dispersion and the useless handling. 

 

I used to do pretty decent 50+ K average damage done, but only 47% or so winrate - now that dropped to 43% after some worthless games in it. I'm considering abandoning the whole US BB line - the thought of grindng another such ship afterwards is just horrifying!

 

​And if you don't grind through, and get your head around it, you will have the exact same problem with the next BB line you try.

[Admiral_noodle]

 

​And if you don't grind through, and get your head around it, you will have the exact same problem with the next BB line you try.

 

I love New Mexico. Never got my head round North Carolina. Skipped the last bit of grind to get Iowa. What a mistake. I should buy back NC and learn her properly. 

[Deckeru_Maiku]

Furry Taco in T7 - 'nuff said!

[RUSSIANBlAS]

 

I love New Mexico. Never got my head round North Carolina. Skipped the last bit of grind to get Iowa. What a mistake. I should buy back NC and learn her properly. 

 

Yeah I grinded 175 games in the NC. Iowa is just a bigger NC with better guns. NC worth learning and suffering for a bit.

 

I'd rather have T6vsT8 than T8vsT10. Everyone has it's personal nightmare. 

 

Yes, Tirp at T10 is far worse than the OPs issue. At least he can get into range and brawl. T10 Tirp gets sniped by better BB or torped...

[dasCKD]

sorry u are lying. new mexico has only a range of 14,9 km and the spreading is wide. did he cheat or u were drunk?

 

 

The New Mexico, like the majority of USN battleships, can mount an artillery plotting room that significantly extends (by 16%) their range.

 

Speaking of nightmares? What about being in a stock Amagi, trapped in a tier 10 battle. With a Hakuryu. Piloted by Haxtesy. 

[Tokyo_Express]

Strangely enough a 2 tier difference isn't as marked in this game as it is in WoT. A tier 8 heavy tank in WoT just laughs at it's tier 6 counterparts even when played by a total potato. In this game a tier 6 BB can still do some serious damage or kill a potato tier 8 BB.

 

 

 

I agree at 100% !

[Admiral_noodle]

New Mexico on land of fire in tier 8. Go to the island and citadel North Carolinas who are foolish enough to challenge you. That's what I did.

 

Key thing is to know your ship and play accordingly. If you're bottom tier adapt your style to fit the situation. Hide behind other ships...

[Robert_Parsons]

I have to say i aint a fan of the NM, its slow and is out ranged by a lot of cruisers and BB esp those of a higher tier. Even when going against soething of the same tier you still have to take a few hits just to get close enough to fire. If there is a Tirpitz  in the game i find out where he is and then sail to the other end of the Map. :-)

 

I have had times when i just hate the RNG  and you think your perfectly aimed the shots from the same salvo drop almost centre but short AND dead centre but long and all you have done is wash his paint work. On the other hand where he is just passing behind an island and your more or less guessing where he will be and your shots just clear the island and Citadel and ship killed. And you laugh ya arse off at it.

[Donar79]

who needs more than 18km range? the nm not! shes devastating for everyone who is silly enough to get nearer then 15km to her. if u use her advantages shes one of the best ships in the line. and against t8 u have to be a bit more carefull and use he sometimes. cant understand disliking her....the playstyle is the same since 3 ships and u have good armor and a serious punch ..range is enough (not in stock) ...so what

 

[row72]

I had a 1 vs 1 fight once with a tirpitz when i was in my Arizona same ship as the new mexico, but this fight was not so easy Tirpitz can do a massive damage to the Arizona. Only thing i was doing to stay alive is sail in an angle so his shells were bouncing off and sometimes turned my ship to fire from all turrets while i was running away. At the end of my run were i was almost killed i met another friendly BB who fired one or two salvos on the Tirpitz which gave me the chance to sink the Tirpitz but leaving me with almost no health. T6 to T8 is Always difficult and i think MM would be better if it was only one tier higher or lower in  game.