[WG] MrConway WG Staff, Alpha Tester 3,411 posts 4,389 battles Report post #1 Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) Since we changed some of the matchmaking with the latest patch, we thought you would appreciate a shiny new chart with an overview of the current matchmaking tiers! Enjoy! //edit (29/07): Replaced with less shiny but correct version. Edited July 29, 2016 by MrConway 8 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FTR] zFireWyvern Modder, Alpha Tester 1,879 posts 1,162 battles Report post #2 Posted July 28, 2016 17 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
afirheiden ∞ Players 86 posts 1,900 battles Report post #3 Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) U have forgotten about Ishizuhi and Aurora... and this also means that Yubari, Arkanzas Beta, Iwaki Alpha, Katori, Ishizuhi, Aurora have lost their former Premium Bonus of easier Matchmaking ? and Nikolai I with its winrate of 60% has got buff ?) Edited July 28, 2016 by afirheiden 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,140 battles Report post #4 Posted July 28, 2016 U have forgotten about Ishizuhi... and this also means that Yubari, Arkanzas Beta, Iwaki Alpha, Katori, Ishizuhi have lost their former Premium Bonus of easier Matchmaking ? and Nikolai I with its winrate of 60% has got buff ?) They have the same MM as before.. Nothing lost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
afirheiden ∞ Players 86 posts 1,900 battles Report post #5 Posted July 28, 2016 They have the same MM as before.. Nothing lost. Further it was part of their premium bonus, now it is the common rule for MMFacit: if ur bonus is not bonus anymore, but thing that everyone has, u have lost your bonus. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedStorm1 Players 434 posts 8,874 battles Report post #6 Posted July 28, 2016 and Nikolai I with its winrate of 60% has got buff ?) OK, now bring the Nikolai I again on sale, I need one seal-clubbing tool.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLOBS] StuntMan0369 Beta Tester 923 posts 4,848 battles Report post #7 Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) They have the same MM as before.. Nothing lost. I think you've mis-read that. The battleships are unaffected since all tier 3 and 4's had +1 (besides Nikolai, but now that's no longer the case). The point they're making is that Yubari and Iwaki Alpha (possibly Katori as well, but I never got her so cannot confirm) were unique in the fact they were lower tier cruisers that had +1 MM whilst every other cruiser around them was +2. Whilst it's not gonna have any noticeable effect, it's still a valid observation. Tl;dr - Only tier 2 prems now have 'preferential MM'. Edited July 28, 2016 by StuntMan0369 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLOBS] StuntMan0369 Beta Tester 923 posts 4,848 battles Report post #8 Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) Oh, and also, you've missed off Aurora, Murmansk and Atlanta in that list. Not that it really matters, since all premiums (besides t2) currently follow the same MM as a regular ship, so most of the premium section is kinda redundant anyway (except for now confirming that Nikolai has +1MM). Edited July 28, 2016 by StuntMan0369 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
afirheiden ∞ Players 86 posts 1,900 battles Report post #9 Posted July 28, 2016 Tl;dr - No ship in the game now has 'preferential MM'. nope ... premium of 2 Tier have preferential MM to level 1-2 battles.I want it on my Yubari too ... to be in level 3-4 battles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLOBS] StuntMan0369 Beta Tester 923 posts 4,848 battles Report post #10 Posted July 28, 2016 nope ... premium of 2 Tier have preferential MM to level 1-2 battles.I want it on my Yubari too ... to be in level 3-4 battles. You're right, my bad, mis-read the chart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #11 Posted July 28, 2016 My Imperator Nicolai is confused, the extended matchmaking it had was a balance factor, infact I liked going up against Fuso's ( New Mexico is tougher nut to crack! ) and beating them with a tier 4 BB My Imperator is also getting a bit scared, since with this MM it's stats will continue to climb a lot.. then again Arkansas Beta is on the same performance levels so... I also think Yubari is getting shafted a bit, it's not going to kill it off or anything but the fact that compared with Kuma/Phoenix/Karlsruhe it had protected MM was a factor in the amount of fun you had in her. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,140 battles Report post #12 Posted July 28, 2016 Further it was part of their premium bonus, now it is the common rule for MMFacit: if ur bonus is not bonus anymore, but thing that everyone has, u have lost your bonus. No. Then no ship were allowed to get buffed, since it would relativly weaken another premium ship. That is not how it works. Premium ships were not changed for worse, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
afirheiden ∞ Players 86 posts 1,900 battles Report post #13 Posted July 28, 2016 My Imperator Nicolai is confused, the extended matchmaking it had was a balance factor, infact I liked going up against Fuso's ( New Mexico is tougher nut to crack! ) and beating them with a tier 4 BB My Imperator is also getting a bit scared, since with this MM it's stats will continue to climb a lot.. then again Arkansas Beta is on the same performance levels so... I also think Yubari is getting shafted a bit, it's not going to kill it off or anything but the fact that compared with Kuma/Phoenix/Karlsruhe it had protected MM was a factor in the amount of fun you had in her. that's right ... Stats of Nikolai will go up (to 67% WR I guess), stats of Aurora and Yubari compared to stats of other cruisers of the same level will fall. Now u have 55% winrate on aurora (so better avr. exp and silver with it), after that u will see stats of free cruiser lvl3 to rise, so aurora will earn less in comparison to others. Same with Yubari. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R-C-N] Belustigungspanda Players 1,081 posts 16,328 battles Report post #14 Posted July 28, 2016 Honestly i'm a little bit confused by the chart. For example, it says that a T3 Katori will see T3 and T4 battles. What about T2? Same thing for conventional ships like T6 cruisers (=> T6, 7 and 8, but no T4 or T5???). Is the chart missing some information or am i getting it wrong? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrushWolf2 Players 229 posts 56 battles Report post #15 Posted July 28, 2016 No. Then no ship were allowed to get buffed, since it would relativly weaken another premium ship. That is not how it works. Premium ships were not changed for worse, that's right ... Stats of Nikolai will go up (to 67% WR I guess), stats of Aurora and Yubari compared to stats of other cruisers of the same level will fall. Now u have 55% winrate on aurora (so better avr. exp and silver with it), after that u will see stats of free cruiser lvl3 to rise, so aurora will earn less in comparison to others. Same with Yubari. This is a definite buff to the Nikolai and it was trollish even in tier 6 matches. I see a similar buff to the St Louis which could burn down tier 5 BB's with ease once they are in range. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #16 Posted July 28, 2016 Honestly i'm a little bit confused by the chart. For example, it says that a T3 Katori will see T3 and T4 battles. What about T2? Same thing for conventional ships like T6 cruisers (=> T6, 7 and 8, but no T4 or T5???). Is the chart missing some information or am i getting it wrong? The tier V cruisers have 5-6-7 so a tier 6 which get into a tier 6 battle or even tier 7 battle can/will see tier 5 cruisers. You got to look at the overlapping part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Bellegar Beta Tester 1,866 posts Report post #17 Posted July 28, 2016 Mikasa only sees T1 and T2 ships?? That's great news! No more dreadnaughts for her 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zed_Von_Toza Players 326 posts 1,155 battles Report post #18 Posted July 28, 2016 (edited) Of course you realise that at T5 and 6 the weakest ships in a class are now just going to get beaten up even more? +++ Entering moan mode +++ I'm thinking of the Kirov for example, made of glass and covered in tin foil, she is now more likely to be in a T6 or 7 game more times than not. This is going to be a very very painful grind, particularly since there are so many BB's in these tiers. I've already had a couple of games today facing 2 Colarodo's, 2 Fusos, a New Mexixo and a Kongo or combinations similar. Or the alternative all T6 and 7 cruisers. In all the battles Ive had in her today so far I've been bottom tier and with only one other T5 DD or CA/CL, and it really really hurts after a while. +++ Leaving moan mode +++ Hopefully WG will monitor the battle stats to see what effect this has on ship performance, and adjust for balance as required. Edited July 28, 2016 by Zed_Von_Toza Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Tyrendian89 [TTTX] Players 4,608 posts 8,139 battles Report post #19 Posted July 28, 2016 Of course you realise that at T5 and 6 the weakest ships in a class are now just going to get beaten up even more? I've got some serious doubts that's how it works. The ratio between top tier, mid tier and bottom tier matches (for a T5 for example) probably won't change significantly (at least I dont see why it should). The only thing that should change is that, when you're top tier, it will be in a match of T4&5 instead of T3-5 - which is of very little consequence considering there were usually not more than two or three T3s in such matches anyway, and they really were royally screwed (much much more than your average T5 is in a T7 match for example). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zed_Von_Toza Players 326 posts 1,155 battles Report post #20 Posted July 28, 2016 I've got some serious doubts that's how it works. The ratio between top tier, mid tier and bottom tier matches (for a T5 for example) probably won't change significantly (at least I dont see why it should). The only thing that should change is that, when you're top tier, it will be in a match of T4&5 instead of T3-5 - which is of very little consequence considering there were usually not more than two or three T3s in such matches anyway, and they really were royally screwed (much much more than your average T5 is in a T7 match for example). I really do hope I'm wrong, but time will tell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,140 battles Report post #21 Posted July 28, 2016 Of course you realise that at T5 and 6 the weakest ships in a class are now just going to get beaten up even more? +++ Entering moan mode +++ I'm thinking of the Kirov for example, made of glass and covered in tin foil, she is now more likely to be in a T6 or 7 game more times than not. This is going to be a very very painful grind, particularly since there are so many BB's in these tiers. I've already had a couple of games today facing 2 Colarodo's, 2 Fusos, a New Mexixo and a Kongo or combinations similar. Or the alternative all T6 and 7 cruisers. In all the battles Ive had in her today so far I've been bottom tier and with only one other T5 DD or CA/CL, and it really really hurts after a while. +++ Leaving moan mode +++ Hopefully WG will monitor the battle stats to see what effect this has on ship performance, and adjust for balance as required. You are complaining about the Kirov, really? Player Average for Ships [ at 2016/07/16 ] Nation Class Tier Name Win Damage Kills/Battle Survival JP CA 5 Furutaka 48.40 20.176 0.55 24.06 KM CA 5 Koenigsberg 48.42 23.198 0.65 25.04 SN CA 5 Kirov 48.87 24.550 0.62 24.04 US CA 5 Omaha 47.30 19.931 0.54 20.38 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zed_Von_Toza Players 326 posts 1,155 battles Report post #22 Posted July 28, 2016 You are complaining about the Kirov, really? Player Average for Ships [ at 2016/07/16 ] Nation Class Tier Name Win Damage Kills/Battle Survival JP CA 5 Furutaka 48.40 20.176 0.55 24.06 KM CA 5 Koenigsberg 48.42 23.198 0.65 25.04 SN CA 5 Kirov 48.87 24.550 0.62 24.04 US CA 5 Omaha 47.30 19.931 0.54 20.38 Agreed, it's probably just the way I'm playing the Kirov. I actually like the Omaha and had a lot of fun in her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zed_Von_Toza Players 326 posts 1,155 battles Report post #23 Posted July 28, 2016 OK I take back my moan, sorry guys, just had a T4 - 5 battle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WGP2W] t3h3th32 Players 987 posts 10,091 battles Report post #24 Posted July 28, 2016 That's a complete nonsense, what they did to tier 5 and 6. Yeah, I guess some poor tier 3 was always rekt in a tier 5 match, but in an exactly same way any tier 5 will get rekt in tier 7 match. This preferential MM is the worst kind of BS WG pulled off in last year. Soon, they'll just separate the tiers completely and after that, idiots will still complain about MM being imbalanced, so WG will present its ultimate solution: TEAM 1: 12 Atagos vs. TEAM 2: 12 Atagos. Then, it'll finally be balanced, I guess. Cheers, ~t3h'Pâr4d0x Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #25 Posted July 28, 2016 That's a complete nonsense, what they did to tier 5 and 6. Yeah, I guess some poor tier 3 was always rekt in a tier 5 match, but in an exactly same way any tier 5 will get rekt in tier 7 match. This preferential MM is the worst kind of BS WG pulled off in last year. Soon, they'll just separate the tiers completely and after that, idiots will still complain about MM being imbalanced, so WG will present its ultimate solution: TEAM 1: 12 Atagos vs. TEAM 2: 12 Atagos. Then, it'll finally be balanced, I guess. Cheers, ~t3h'Pâr4d0x No way, team A will be called cheaters for using premium consumables, and team B haxors for using 19 point captains turning Atago in a stealth torping DD's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites