this game is a taken for a..

[hatahualpa59]

I play this game by many many months and i am not a noob and i am not a joung boy ,my experiences about simulation games start with the first PC out in the shops and never never i have seen a game so bastard.

1)the AI is adaptive and change the setting for each one when the game see that a player make too much money and points it reduce drastically the learned money and points.

2)not in 1 o2 battle coop but in many many, i have seen the Ai ships recalled by all the map into the zone where there is or are the more dangerous player/s and this is not a fake story but it's absolutely true,i want to say that i play toughever other players my friends in a team in coop and the others have seen the same s.....

3)i have writed more then 6 email to developers for to put under theyr attentions all the problems of the game but they insist to give to me answers without a logic sense

4)noone can say that after the latest patches this game is not reduced to a trash,where the coop is a taken for a... and where try to do a normal enjoyable game is pratically  impossible,casue the out of mind aggressivity of AI ships and theyr out of the world accuracy about hit the targets the players have nomore chances to win against ships that are more similar to a robocop.

I WANT ADVISE ALL PLAYERS THAT THIS GAME IS MADE FOR TO CREATE...AGGRESSIVITY.......NOT COOPERATIVE SOUL.....SCHIZOFRENIC BEHAVIEUR....FRUSTRATION.

really i dont exagerate nothing all the answer to my posts were absolutely nosense and the shocking thing is that they use a very sweet tone but the answers are ever the same.

decide you all if i say b.... or not.......i write to them this......me and a friend in a game we rest alone into battle and both with a congo full upgraded against a congo AI,what happens after was exactly  this:

we both try to shoot down that congo using a mix of HE and AP at any distance for to end we try to use Ap at 300 meters into the center of the side ship called citadel but not me and not him had a result the maximum damage got was 1000 and this only in same cases cause for about half times our shoots were absolutely without a damage, instead th Ai congo massacrate me and other player easily  so what????why our ammo were not effective and those of Ai yes?

and why the player service answer to me saying.......you must go to check the manual of the game under penetration of the different bullets....they are mad or what? is like i ask to someone

to help me cause i am falling down by a stair and he answer to me sorry i have to go buy milch for my cat.it's a nosense  like the patches and like the setting of damages applyed for humans

A last thing......why if i buy a premium ship also if that ship use the same cannons caliber and same ammotype it's in evidence that ship will hit you with more damage and also the accuracy will be better....for you all this is right ?so who have money to send trhought the window have more powerfull ships and who cannot have only second class ammo and ships?

think to all these people....think.....who have made this game don't want our fun and the money is not the main target.

[KptStrzyga]

7759 coop games played?? 

Dude, you`ve been playing tutorial all this time. Switch to randoms and you`ll stop playing vs AI. WoWs is a PvP game ment to be played vs other players. You`ll get much more exp and cretits there, like 3 times more. And you`ll find random games also much more challenging.

[lup3s]

The AI's accuracy is good but not that good .. you can easily dodge incoming fire by a small shift of your rudder as I'd assume AI just shoots according to your current path.

 

Imo it makes sense for AI to try to kill the best player first, else there wouldn't be much of a challenge for a decent player. It would also make sense for enemy AI to prioritize players above bots.

 

I don't know the situation you were in when facing that Kongo, but couldn't it be that the enemy AI was decently angled while you were giving him a nice broadside? This would explain you getting low damage salvoes (i.e. ricochets or AP penetrating the top structure) while the enemy AI gets high damage salvoes (i.e. penetrating your side, hitting the citadel).

[StringWitch]

Simulation games? This is a 3rd person shooter with ship models.

 

1. AI is not adaptive, it's currently very simple.

2. What's your point?

3. Whatever E-mail you have, it's not a direct line to the developers.

4. AI shot placement was improved around 5.6? 5.7? Either way it's still not very good. Use WASD more often.
 

 

I WANT ADVISE ALL PLAYERS THAT THIS GAME IS MADE FOR TO CREATE...AGGRESSIVITY.......NOT COOPERATIVE SOUL.....SCHIZOFRENIC BEHAVIEUR....FRUSTRATION.

 

Of course. It's an MMO grinder to an extent. Frustration is actually a part of the game design with this sort of product.

 

 

Ime and a friend in a game we rest alone into battle and both with a congo full upgraded against a congo AI,what happens after was exactly  this:

we both try to shoot down that congo using a mix of HE and AP at any distance for to end we try to use Ap at 300 meters into the center of the side ship called citadel but not me and not him had a result the maximum damage got was 1000 and this only in same cases cause for about half times our shoots were absolutely without a damage, instead th Ai congo massacrate me and other player easily  so what????why our ammo were not effective and those of Ai yes?

 

http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Gunnery_%26_Armor_Penetration

 

 

and why the player service answer to me saying.......you must go to check the manual of the game under penetration of the different bullets....they are mad or what? is like i ask to someone

to help me cause i am falling down by a stair and he answer to me sorry i have to go buy milch for my cat.it's a nosense  like the patches and like the setting of damages applyed for humans

 

... What?

 

 

A last thing......why if i buy a premium ship also if that ship use the same cannons caliber and same ammotype it's in evidence that ship will hit you with more damage and also the accuracy will be better....for you all this is right ?

 

No.

 

 

so who have money to send trhought the window have more powerfull ships and who cannot have only second class ammo and ships?

 

Sadly this is true in the case of a few premium ships, like Murmansk which has waaaay better AP shells than the tech tree Omaha and even fellow premium Marblehead.

[AgarwaenME]

I wonder what "simulation" was available on the pc in 1981....

 

Also, I could rebutt his points, but they're just tinfoil lunacy due to his amazing failings at this game, maybe he's just too old to be able to keep up.

[basharran]

 

He is frustrated about the coop bot behaviour, and he should be. Coop mode is currently only good for learning the game (and not even that good at it). Seeing the upcoming changes to coop mode it could be that quite some people are playing this regularly so maybe they listened to you hatahualpa59!

Just try to enjoy the game as it is and as said by other for the real "challenge" try to go into random battles.

 

[AgarwaenME]

He is frustrated about the coop bot behaviour, and he should be. Coop mode is currently only good for learning the game (and not even that good at it). Seeing the upcoming changes to coop mode it could be that quite some people are playing this regularly so maybe they listened to you hatahualpa59!

Just try to enjoy the game as it is and as said by other for the real "challenge" try to go into random battles.

 

You should try reading what he actually wrote. He's actually complaining that coop is too hard for him.

[XbodzioXplX]

7759 coop games played?? 

 Switch to randoms and you`ll stop playing vs AI. 

 

Looking at his stats... let him fight against AI, it is better for other players 

 

And new mode, Assault, is comming so he will find something new in CoOp.

Personally I think Assault is quite a challenge.

 

WG will nerf it because CooP players will start to lose their stats 

​

[aboomination]

AGGRESSIVITY.......NOT COOPERATIVE SOUL.....SCHIZOFRENIC BEHAVIEUR....FRUSTRATION

really i dont exagerate

 

 

To be honest: I don't think you'll find many co-op experts on the forums.

In fact looking at your number of played co-op games: I totally believe what you said. Everything. Even the part about rigged game mechanics.

Please elaborate!

 

[basharran]

 

You should try reading what he actually wrote. He's actually complaining that coop is too hard for him.

 

Mmm, I think you are right... sorry, my bad.

[Vanhal]

 

I WANT ADVISE ALL PLAYERS THAT THIS GAME IS MADE FOR TO CREATE...AGGRESSIVITY.......NOT COOPERATIVE SOUL.....SCHIZOFRENIC BEHAVIEUR....FRUSTRATION.

 

Um, welcome to multiplayer games? 12 red ones are enemies. 11 green ones are competitors.

 

 

think to all these people....think.....who have made this game don't want our fun and the money is not the main target.

 

No wai!

 

 

 

 

That said, co-op is crap. Much potential, but none of it is realised. 0.5.9 is first step in right direction, but it's still very lacking. Hope WG will continue work on this.

[Carnivore81]

I wonder what "simulation" was available on the pc in 1981....

 

Also, I could rebutt his points, but they're just tinfoil lunacy due to his amazing failings at this game, maybe he's just too old to be able to keep up.

 

Ping pong later lemmimgs.  What a fun. But this retarded lemmimg Trains back then 

[Kevbar]

I wonder what "simulation" was available on the pc in 1981....

 

Also, I could rebutt his points, but they're just tinfoil lunacy due to his amazing failings at this game, maybe he's just too old to be able to keep up.

 

I had a Commodore Vic20 back in the day with (I kid you not) the 16k expansion pack. A whole 13k upgrade from the standard 3k. I can't for the life of me remember what I used to do on it though apart from one simulation.

 

It used to simulate being a computer!!

[aboch]

I'am not sure that someone that has 7.800 games in coop mode and complaining its too hard there is someone that understood the game mechanics, not even talking about tactics, strategies and team play.

 

Only thing i'am sure is that he should do his own a favour and not playing any randoms. His stats in random are the worst i have ever seen with 27% winrate. 

 

No idea what the reasons are, maybe bad PC with 5 FPS or wrong glasses, but i think he should just continue playing coop battle, with his 93% he should be ok there, no matter that this winrate again is very low for that mode.

[AgarwaenME]

 

I had a Commodore Vic20 back in the day with (I kid you not) the 16k expansion pack. A whole 13k upgrade from the standard 3k. I can't for the life of me remember what I used to do on it though apart from one simulation.

 

It used to simulate being a computer!!

 

Well I was reffering to pc's as actual ibm (or ibm compatibles) as people didn't call "hobby" computers like that PCs back in the day.

 

I had an 8088xt back in the day, and I could run MS flight sim (ver3 I think).. slowly with like 3fps. And while that was basic I guess it could be called a simulation.

 

The point was rather that is sounded more like a hollow attempt to build a case for his own knowhow on the part of the OP, when in fact is sounds most like some spoiled teenager that would barely be a twinkle in his dads bag of meatballs when PCs actually came on the market.

[hatahualpa59]

Ok i saw that only 1 say something that leave me understand that exsist people that see behind the smoke.

The others and are many have understood nothing ,for them all is right,nothing to mentioning,nothing is bad all right....go ahead captains with the man at wheel that is completely blind.

The problem is not really the game that is worse and appositely worse but it's the people that use it,After many report about the bad setting of Ai they continue to change in worse that.The situation at 28/7/16 is not changed after the last patch of today i have tested again the game....the result of this 20th patch is.....

1)less money learned after battle ,this also if you sink down 3 ships and when i say sink down i don't want to say rubbed to someone i meaning really sunk.

2)the stupid aggressivity of AI ships is over the top and like in the film terminator they continue to attack also if they are in pieces and until last one work exactly like terminator,they have not also a little idea of defence beahvieur and don't say to me that's  impossible to do because i have seen many games that given that to AI succesfully..

3)Also in the PvP the money is reduced drastically.

who is not blind can see clearly that if you go up to play in tier 6 and 7 or more hig is in evidence that the money learned is ever less and are more  times that you loose money and this sinking down 2 or 3 ships,this due to the cost very exagerated of comsumables and every patch they rising up.

(i never sayd that in 1981 i did play simulations on a PC it's obvious that i did use AMIGA 512k but naturally you all are  probably so joung that don't remember what did exist before 2000.)

Someone says in this forum answering to me that i would go to play PvP cause this game is made for PvP......this conclusion is arrived to his brain after 200 hours of meditation?

If a game citating into features of game that there is COOP it means thaat there is a COOP and noone can say that i am obliged to play PvP.If you don't like COOP you are free to play any other kind of style but leave free me and the other players to play COOP without feeeling ourself like stupid or subnormal,thks to god in this f. world where all the new games that pop out every second are PvP the people have not understood what is the goal of this,infact the goal is jet

got,it's easy to see also in this game,the beahvieur of players is terrible and the major part of them rub continuously the ships damaged for to gain some money in more ....think about it .

Anyway i want put in evidence to developers of this game this,,,,,,,for shure you ll get new players every day....for shure also if every day you are loosing players that have understood the situation  not all will understand where is the problem but  take a look at the numbers of players online showed when you are in the port......very worse number and expecially if you compare that number with the same showed not more then 2 months ago(it was around 30.000).

For to finish...go...go to play in PvP  you all know perfectly that there more then an half of players use cheats and someone use so many of them that the list would be long like a train.

Is really pathetic to see humans that fighting other humans and all this using stupid cheats.....ahhhh tha's the satisfaction....all this people is the thermometer of what is this game i leave you all to play this fantastic cheat game

where the cooperative soul is big like an ant and where aggressivity is big like an elefant.but never...never the aggressivity have showed to be a winner way and less then less a way for to grow up.

 

[tomkrist]

Random pvp is not perfect. However, its the only way to get good in this game. You dont get better by only playing against AI in Coop battles.
Thats the thing, you will meet alot bad players,average players and good players. Sometimes you will win while other times you will
get this annoying loosing streaks.

 

Here is my advice:

 

-Get some friends to play with in random mode(add me, i can take some games with you:tomkrist).

-Learn from you tube. There is alot of help out there. Like how to angle your battleships. How to be good in a cruiser or destroyer. You need
also practice,alot.

-Dont care about annoying players. In every multiplayer game you will meet the worse kind of human,but its a part of it. You will also meet
nice people. In fact,  the player base on World of warships is quite nice compared with world of tanks or other games. I do
have a lot of practice from wot and wows is alot better.Here players sometimes actually listen.  As i says, get some friends to play with. Its so more funnier and you can learn
from each other,tactical play etc.

 

Finaly, dont forget that this is a game. Have fun!

 

[Quetak]

to your point 3)
 

With T6 in PvP games there is nearly no way to loose credits, repair costs are somewhere around 50k and its nothing. At T8 are repairs somewhere around 100k and its still not so hard to get such amount of credits, even in not good game.

I must admit that I have premium account (just for two months, never had it before) so I know that earnings in T6/T7 are okay. There is breakpoint at T8 where you cant be bad otherwise its credit loss (thats why I bought premium).  

 

If you cant earn credits with T6 in random battles you must be doing something realy wrong.

 

 

[mtm78]

 

Well I was reffering to pc's as actual ibm (or ibm compatibles) as people didn't call "hobby" computers like that PCs back in the day.

 

I had an 8088xt back in the day, and I could run MS flight sim (ver3 I think).. slowly with like 3fps. And while that was basic I guess it could be called a simulation.

 

The point was rather that is sounded more like a hollow attempt to build a case for his own knowhow on the part of the OP, when in fact is sounds most like some spoiled teenager that would barely be a twinkle in his dads bag of meatballs when PCs actually came on the market.

 

I played this as my first 'real flight simulator' -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Yeager%27s_Air_Combat

 

It was glorious!

 

Ok i saw that only 1 say something that leave me understand that exsist people that see behind the smoke.

The others and are many have understood nothing ,for them all is right,nothing to mentioning,nothing is bad all right....go ahead captains with the man at wheel that is completely blind.

The problem is not really the game that is worse and appositely worse but it's the people that use it,After many report about the bad setting of Ai they continue to change in worse that.The situation at 28/7/16 is not changed after the last patch of today i have tested again the game....the result of this 20th patch is.....

1)less money learned after battle ,this also if you sink down 3 ships and when i say sink down i don't want to say rubbed to someone i meaning really sunk. Training aka PVE mode is supposed to be worse then PVP, but it is still FAIR since it's so friggin easy you don't deserve the same rewards in PVE as in randoms. 

2)the stupid aggressivity of AI ships is over the top and like in the film terminator they continue to attack also if they are in pieces and until last one work exactly like terminator,they have not also a little idea of defence beahvieur and don't say to me that's  impossible to do because i have seen many games that given that to AI succesfully.. AI could need some work, they are rather dumb now and if WG could make them a bit smarter it would be more challenging ( for the right reasons challenging, not because of AI zerg rush ).

3)Also in the PvP the money is reduced drastically.

who is not blind can see clearly that if you go up to play in tier 6 and 7 or more hig is in evidence that the money learned is ever less and are more  times that you loose money and this sinking down 2 or 3 ships,this due to the cost very exagerated of comsumables and every patch they rising up.  I haven't seen this at all, can you provide 'proof' of this reduced income in last patch? Or, alternatively, can you provide more tinfoil hats to share with the community so we can better understand your position?

(i never sayd that in 1981 i did play simulations on a PC it's obvious that i did use AMIGA 512k but naturally you all are  probably so joung that don't remember what did exist before 2000.)

Someone says in this forum answering to me that i would go to play PvP cause this game is made for PvP......this conclusion is arrived to his brain after 200 hours of meditation?

If a game citating into features of game that there is COOP it means thaat there is a COOP and noone can say that i am obliged to play PvP.If you don't like COOP you are free to play any other kind of style but leave free me and the other players to play COOP without feeeling ourself like stupid or subnormal,thks to god in this f. world where all the new games that pop out every second are PvP the people have not understood what is the goal of this,infact the goal is jet

got,it's easy to see also in this game,the beahvieur of players is terrible and the major part of them rub continuously the ships damaged for to gain some money in more ....think about it . Ofc, you can play coop all you want. Just don't ask for the same rewards as those who play the more difficult game modes!

Anyway i want put in evidence to developers of this game this,,,,,,,for shure you ll get new players every day....for shure also if every day you are loosing players that have understood the situation  not all will understand where is the problem but  take a look at the numbers of players online showed when you are in the port......very worse number and expecially if you compare that number with the same showed not more then 2 months ago(it was around 30.000).

For to finish...go...go to play in PvP  you all know perfectly that there more then an half of players use cheats and someone use so many of them that the list would be long like a train.

Is really pathetic to see humans that fighting other humans and all this using stupid cheats.....ahhhh tha's the satisfaction....all this people is the thermometer of what is this game i leave you all to play this fantastic cheat game

where the cooperative soul is big like an ant and where aggressivity is big like an elefant.but never...never the aggressivity have showed to be a winner way and less then less a way for to grow up.

 

Ahhh, ok now we get to the juicy parts: CHEATS! Can you tell us more about those 'stupid cheats'?

 

[Ferry_25]

Wow! I thought I had a lot of coops under my belt. Played them a lot with a newby div mate who insisted on playing coops. He was actually more dangerous than the reds with his torps but had a lot of fun with it! But 1 point for OP: the non-cooperation and absense of teamplay is pathognominic around here. That's becoming more and more a dealbreaker for me.

[Turnipsi]

 

Is really pathetic to see humans that fighting other humans and all this using stupid cheats.....ahhhh tha's the satisfaction....all this people is the thermometer of what is this game i leave you all to play this fantastic cheat game

 

"My personal capabilities are far less than that of my fellow players, therefore they must not be more experienced and simply better at playing the game, but are indeed the scum known as cheaters! Anyone who disagrees with my irrefutable statement is also one of these cheaters or simply refuses to acknowledge this MASSIVE problem."

 

As for your statement of losing credits in t6 games... Well, considering you have a legendary winrate of 28%, I am not surprised.

[loppantorkel]

... But 1 point for OP: the non-cooperation and absense of teamplay is pathognominic around here. That's becoming more and more a dealbreaker for me.

This is a tricky thing. More teamplay sounds great, but I'm not sure too much of it is such a great idea either, unless you'd want WoWs to be more competitive. As it is now, it's possible to jump in, have a good game, usually with team mates cooperating to some degree, and either win or lose. The more competitive players can throw this off quiet easily. It's not an issue at all at the moment, but I think WG needs to maintain a balance for those more casual players and those who have a tendency to powergame, at least in Random battles. The voice chat seems to be nice inclusion in the latest patch though.

[el_bloom]

I guess we have really found the father of all coop players here.

 

And oh boy is he mad today !  Hilarious

[MercFHire]

I play this game by many many months and i am not a noob and i am not a joung boy ,my experiences about simulation games start with the first PC out in the shops and never never i have seen a game so bastard.

1)the AI is adaptive and change the setting for each one when the game see that a player make too much money and points it reduce drastically the learned money and points.

2)not in 1 o2 battle coop but in many many, i have seen the Ai ships recalled by all the map into the zone where there is or are the more dangerous player/s and this is not a fake story but it's absolutely true,i want to say that i play toughever other players my friends in a team in coop and the others have seen the same s.....

3)i have writed more then 6 email to developers for to put under theyr attentions all the problems of the game but they insist to give to me answers without a logic sense

4)noone can say that after the latest patches this game is not reduced to a trash,where the coop is a taken for a... and where try to do a normal enjoyable game is pratically  impossible,casue the out of mind aggressivity of AI ships and theyr out of the world accuracy about hit the targets the players have nomore chances to win against ships that are more similar to a robocop.

I WANT ADVISE ALL PLAYERS THAT THIS GAME IS MADE FOR TO CREATE...AGGRESSIVITY.......NOT COOPERATIVE SOUL.....SCHIZOFRENIC BEHAVIEUR....FRUSTRATION.

really i dont exagerate nothing all the answer to my posts were absolutely nosense and the shocking thing is that they use a very sweet tone but the answers are ever the same.

decide you all if i say b.... or not.......i write to them this......me and a friend in a game we rest alone into battle and both with a congo full upgraded against a congo AI,what happens after was exactly  this:

we both try to shoot down that congo using a mix of HE and AP at any distance for to end we try to use Ap at 300 meters into the center of the side ship called citadel but not me and not him had a result the maximum damage got was 1000 and this only in same cases cause for about half times our shoots were absolutely without a damage, instead th Ai congo massacrate me and other player easily  so what????why our ammo were not effective and those of Ai yes?

and why the player service answer to me saying.......you must go to check the manual of the game under penetration of the different bullets....they are mad or what? is like i ask to someone

to help me cause i am falling down by a stair and he answer to me sorry i have to go buy milch for my cat.it's a nosense  like the patches and like the setting of damages applyed for humans

A last thing......why if i buy a premium ship also if that ship use the same cannons caliber and same ammotype it's in evidence that ship will hit you with more damage and also the accuracy will be better....for you all this is right ?so who have money to send trhought the window have more powerfull ships and who cannot have only second class ammo and ships?

think to all these people....think.....who have made this game don't want our fun and the money is not the main target.

 

Dude, you're not supposed to drink the rubbing alcohol.

 

Kongo scenario:

RNG

You were probably over-penning at that range if you missed the citidels or simple ricochets.  You should turn on ribbons in game so you can see what happens to your shells if you don't already have it enabled.

 

You really should play random,  people do not cheat like you think.  You're basing the capabilities of other ships and players on your experience with the performance of AI so when you go up against other players online, the fact that they are playing better than the AI baseline that you have set youself you assume that It has to be cheating.

You know about citidels so you know how people can quickly deal damage.

[brainfear1]

so this is what an overdose of pve matches can do to you?