laughable MM

[v41n]

 

...this was my first tier 4 with stock-settings and my first 2 games:

 

 

i think i will pause this game for a while. it's just ridicolous...

 

[Egoleter]

+/- 2 tier matchmaking is normal from tier IV onwards.

 

There will be enough matches were you will be top tier. The matchmaker will even consider it if you are low tier to often.

[v41n]

+/- 2 tier matchmaking is normal from tier IV onwards.

 

There will be enough matches were you will be top tier. The matchmaker will even consider it if you are low tier to often.

 

Obviously the MM consider me to force a lose...what's the reason for this posed gameoutcome ?

[Jengkins]

You only got 16 battles and you complain about the mm? As mentioned before its +/-2. Take it or leave it.

[brainfear1]

those were actualy quite balanced matches.

[Djerin]

For cruisers in this game the 2 tier difference usually isn't that big of a problem. It hurts BBs and CVs more. 

[v41n]

those were actualy quite balanced matches.

 

orly? fighting in a stock phoenix against this weirdo medal-thingie guys in their farraguts or fusos? well... i take the advice of jenkins: i will leave.

 

oh - and how is the MM able to pick the most turded crap and stuffed them in a biased team of sinking meermaids ?

[EsaTuunanen]

Up to Tier 3 new players have separate match making pool so I would suggest playing some more at those tiers to get better at gunnery.

At least you should play Phoenix in Co-op for some time to get better at 10+ km range gunnery and for getting enough XP for ship upgrades giving lot more firepower.

Because of small size and fast speed for cruiser fully upgraded Phoenix can be major annoyance to higher tier ships.

 

Even without these weekend potato special teams you're not going to enjoy facing more experienced players unless you properly learn game basics.

Without learning gunnery and some basics you'll just get eventually your butt handed to you by destroyer in gun duel...

[v41n]

Up to Tier 3 new players have separate match making pool so I would suggest playing some more at those tiers to get better at gunnery.

At least you should play Phoenix in Co-op for some time to get better at 10+ km range gunnery and for getting enough XP for ship upgrades giving lot more firepower.

Because of small size and fast speed for cruiser fully upgraded Phoenix can be major annoyance to higher tier ships.

 

Even without these weekend potato special teams you're not going to enjoy facing more experienced players unless you properly learn game basics.

Without learning gunnery and some basics you'll just get eventually your butt handed to you by destroyer in gun duel...

 

Oh... it's my fault! thank you - this is the best answer a human could get. You are such a skilled and beautiful person, i want to *-*-*-* you...

[Egoleter]

I didn't know how few matches you played in the lower tiers. Do yourself a favor and play a few more matches in the lower tiers to get a better feel for your ships and the gameplay. On those levels you are supposed to learn the basics about ship handling, aiming, speed and rudder controls (and when to use them, aka WASD hacks), and not just the game controls.

 

Rising quickly to the tiers for the better ships is tempting but you'll miss important lessons about gameplay in general.

[ajappat]

You really are complaining about nonexistent problem, so.. Deal with it.

[v41n]

I didn't know how few matches you played in the lower tiers. Do yourself a favor and play a few more matches in the lower tiers to get a better feel for your ships and the gameplay. On those levels you are supposed to learn the basics about ship handling, aiming, speed and rudder controls (and when to use them, aka WASD hacks), and not just the game controls.

 

Rising quickly to the tiers for the better ships is tempting but you'll miss important lessons about gameplay in general.

 

...and with a better handlingblahblah i get a fair MM? And my teammates will be able to do the same XP like me with their +2 ships? you see there's a little logical break, nor?

[aboomination]

Probably a re-roll account...feeling the pressure already? Have a hug. However, those MM look pretty balanced - if you consider this bad you should probably stop here.

 

Tip: 

 

 

...and do the hippy hippy shake!

[brainfear1]

 

orly? fighting in a stock phoenix against this weirdo medal-thingie guys in their farraguts or fusos? well... i take the advice of jenkins: i will leave.

 

oh - and how is the MM able to pick the most turded crap and stuffed them in a biased team of sinking meermaids ?

 

Sticking  to the bigger ships and support them might be a good start.

Your playing a fast fragile ship do not go head on against an other ship that will get you killed alot. 

 

Besides that insulting an other player is not the best way to get any tips

[Pekoe_Darjeeling]

Like +-2 matter. How can one team not lose a single ship? Was his team full of bots and players with no more than 50battles?

[Egoleter]

 

...and with a better handlingblahblah i get a fair MM? And my teammates will be able to do the same XP like me with their +2 ships? you see there's a little logical break, nor?

 

Well.. I tried.

 

If you don't want to accept the help and advice we are giving you in the first place, you shouldn't pollute the forum with uneducated complaints either.

[Maximilian_Graf_von_Spee]

 

Oh... it's my fault! thank you - this is the best answer a human could get. You are such a skilled and beautiful person, i want to *-*-*-* you...

 

He was actually trying to help you and you have to resort to insults 

The game is not worse without you, but let me say this: We all were bad in the beginning, we couldn´t hit the enemy, we misjudged situations, but we labored through it and learned to enjoy the process. So if you don´t have the patience then bye, and please let us alone with your butthurtness, 

[Cosseria]

You should complain about the ranked Cleveland who was still alive and managed to get as low as 95 xp points instead. It's going to be this very same song and dance from now on, so deal with it or uninstall the game. Seeing how you insult those who try to give advice, we won't regret you.

[ollonborre]

- +-2 MM is perfectly fine.

 

- Stock ships suck.

 

- The second screenshot looks fairly standard, the first screenshot however has a massive case of noone on your team (including yourself) doing nothing. Which can also happen.

 

So in summary, nothing out of the ordinary, and don't get so salty when people try to help.

[Mayv]

Tier 4 CAs are getting +1 MM next patch.

[aboch]

actually to be fair, in the first game/screenshoot his team totally failed. He is best by XP as low tier and stock, so here i understand his anger, even it's not MM's vault of course.

 

 

[AnotherDuck]

You get fail teams on occasion. That happens. Had a game not many hours ago where I was the only one in my team who managed to kill anyone at all. Two games is nothing.

 

MM is relatively fair since last change in it. There's the occasional hiccup, but overall there aren't any major problems. I'm not sure if the limit on being low tier is two or three games, but something like that. If anything, being low tier really forces you to play to your ship's advantages, and avoid the disadvantages, since that's what you've got going for you. Take it as a learning experience, since you'll find out if you're doing it wrong.

[EsaTuunanen]

...and with a better handlingblahblah i get a fair MM? And my teammates will be able to do the same XP like me with their +2 ships? you see there's a little logical break, nor?

Everyone has more or less occasionally fail teams usually happening in weekend... And way more than just two in row.

Better players just make upward thousand and even more XP in those matches.

Along with sometimes being the highest scorer in the match despite winning enemy team getting +50% to their XP.

 

And they happen because of team getting lots of players who've never bothered/wanted to learn how to play and are just screwing around or rushing forward in tiers...

With yesterday evening's damage and hit ratio in Phoenix your performance was exactly at their level.

Bottom tier ship doing damage to higher tier ships just gets more XP reward inflating number for comparing contribution to higher tier team mates.

 

 

Tier 4 ended that protected new player sandbox match making along with firepower and gun range getting major increase changing gameplay.

In sandbox MM Tier 3 St. Louis can take lots of hits and survive closer to enemy, while shorter engagement ranges also make hitting enemies easier.

At Tier 4 taking cruiser to similar distance to competent enemy gets it sinked, unless enemy has been first softened by 10+ km range shelling.

And AP shell salvoes from skilled enemy can turn advantage fast the other way when making mistake.

 

So in durability Tier 4 Phoenix is actually major step down from St. Louis and along with MM change needing entirely different game play:

Using maneuverability to be harder target.

Never attacking alone against multiple enemies other than destroyers.

Need to hit above destroyer size ships reliably from over 10km range for:

Supporting own team destroyers against enemy cruisers.

Escorting own team battleships for adding fast reload firepower to battleship's slow fire rate. (+protecting them from enemy destroyers)

Or alternately doing "cruiser wolfpack" which can attack and burn down lonely battleship.

 

Ideally good size group of ships would attack in relatively small formation focusing fire to closest or weakest enemy...

While themselves sharing incoming fire to keep as many ships alive for as long as possible.

Instead of ships hiding behind each others and most staying at their max range (not really hitting anything) leading to first ship in line getting sinked in seconds before enemy focuses to next ship.

[Venom_Too]

I was thinking of giving a Response, couldn't resist in the end.

 

So dear v41n,

 

First of All as many said, yes in t4 the Noob Protection goes off and the Shark Basin starts, cause of the Normal +/- 2 Matchmaking.

That said, the MM has balanced the Match for you. Its +-1 Class per Screenshot first for Example 1 dd less then the Enemy. Which is no Problem at all.

 

Second

Witout being in the same Game as you were, i'm 100% sure that you were NOT the Only Stock Ship in this MM. But with your Game Experience from  ~20 Games, i'm also aware that you wouldn't know the diffrence between a stock Kongo and a fully upgraded one. And we all played Stock just as Reminder.

 

Third

You can't expect in an TEAM Game that you always win. You always will have some Potatos in your Team and you will Loose.

 

And last Thing, after your childish and inapproperate reaction there is only ONE thing to say if you take a break or quit the game.

 

Plz let the door shut and have fun in another game

 

Sincerly

 

V

 

P.S: You should have played before the upgraded MM with last Patch

[mtm78]

 

Oh... it's my fault! thank you - this is the best answer a human could get. You are such a skilled and beautiful person, i want to *-*-*-* you...

 

So you come and whine about something all of us gone through, the -2 bottom tier stock games, and when you get some actual advice which matches your level off QQing you dismiss it because it points out the problem might be a PEBKAC related issue?

 

 

...and with a better handlingblahblah i get a fair MM? And my teammates will be able to do the same XP like me with their +2 ships? you see there's a little logical break, nor?

 

Again, EVERYONE posting here, EVERYONE you see in game, has gone through those matches.

 

WG does not have a programmer who said, well everyone with the name v41n will get worse teams then the others, just because I think it's a strange name..

 

It's summer holiday, it's weekend, there is a special going on. Get used to seeing stupid, dumb and ignorant people, it's almost like in real life where those people also exist.