_x_Acheron_x_ Players 484 posts 6,096 battles Report post #1 Posted July 23, 2016 I assume these people at rank 1 are just stat padders? For the whole of this season, I've not got past rank 17. I win one. I lose one. I win one. I lose one. Over and over and over. Thing is, I'm frequently in the top 3 players for the match. It's infuriating. You get punished even harder for an afk/bot player because there's so few of you. I give up on it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KaraMon Players 4,154 posts 9,221 battles Report post #2 Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) yes i am stapadder and untill rank 10 it was like co-op with bots so most likely you are doing something horribly wrong. I bet you are not even trying to win Edited July 23, 2016 by KaraMon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] lup3s Players 5,744 posts 32,902 battles Report post #3 Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) what ship do you use in Ranked? I tend to use destroyers as you're more likely to be the top player on your team (if you're any good in it); so if you lose a game you don't lose a star. You get a huge amount of XP by capping bases, so staying alive as long as possible and capping bases is a great way to win or not lose a star. Edited July 23, 2016 by lup3s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_x_Acheron_x_ Players 484 posts 6,096 battles Report post #4 Posted July 23, 2016 what ship do you use in Ranked? I tend to use destroyers as you're more likely to be the top player on your team (if you're any good in it); so if you lose a game you don't lose a star. You get a huge amount of XP by capping bases, so staying alive as long as possible and capping bases is a great way to win or not lose a star. At the moment, kirov and kamikaze. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SLOTH] txtspeak Players 3,041 posts 5,653 battles Report post #5 Posted July 23, 2016 acheron. dont bother with advice Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MIMI] MudMonkey Beta Tester 1,338 posts 8,378 battles Report post #6 Posted July 23, 2016 Oh boy I have started palying ranked just a couple of days ago. Out of curiosity. And I really liked it. Yeah, sometimes you have players who have problems finding their own behinds with both hands. But in general I have really enjoyed it. I have reached rank 9 and I am happy with it. Next season I will for sure play it from the start and aim for the top. I can't underrstand how you, OP, think this is for stat padders. That logic is not comprehensible for me. Perhaps you shouldn't blame others for not being able to climb past rank 17 but look into your own gameplay. But then again I understand that self-reflection is not for everybody. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Kartoffelmos Alpha Tester 2,237 posts 8,884 battles Report post #7 Posted July 23, 2016 "Has a 38,64 % win rate in ranked; blames the teams." Seems legit. It's not like the issue might be a lack of self-awareness or anything. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SLOTH] txtspeak Players 3,041 posts 5,653 battles Report post #8 Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) "Has a 38,64 % win rate in ranked; blames the teams." Seems legit. It's not like the issue might be a lack of self-awareness or anything. that depends. In randoms I have 51% WR if I remember correctly. in ranked its around 40% and most of those games I get a High calibre. It is possible he's getting badly unlucky with the teams like I am. Edited July 23, 2016 by txtspeak Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] Earl_of_Northesk Players 2,447 posts 14,711 battles Report post #9 Posted July 23, 2016 that depends. In randoms I have 51% WR if I remember correctly. in ranked its around 40% and most of those games I get a top gun. It is possible he's getting badly unlucky with the teams like I am. How many games played, which rank? Because most likely you don't get unlucky, it's just that ranked punishes you way harder for a lack of skill, since it's just 7 vs. 7. A lot depends on you and your performance, that's why sub-par players most likely will get lower winrates in ranked than in random and the better players even higher ones. At least until you get into first league, which will level the better players winrates. In the lowest league, I do regularly have a winrate beyond 70%. In fact, in every season I participated so far I had a 70%+ winrate below rank 10. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #10 Posted July 23, 2016 Maybe it's just a bit tougher in ranked? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SLOTH] txtspeak Players 3,041 posts 5,653 battles Report post #11 Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) How many games played, which rank? Because most likely you don't get unlucky, it's just that ranked punishes you way harder for a lack of skill, since it's just 7 vs. 7. A lot depends on you and your performance, that's why sub-par players most likely will get lower winrates in ranked than in random and the better players even higher ones. At least until you get into first league, which will level the better players winrates. In the lowest league, I do regularly have a winrate beyond 70%. In fact, in every season I participated so far I had a 70%+ winrate below rank 10. As I said, I get High calibre in 9/10 games that I lose in ranked Edited July 23, 2016 by txtspeak Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SLOTH] txtspeak Players 3,041 posts 5,653 battles Report post #12 Posted July 23, 2016 why did I say top gun... there is no top gun in world of warships! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Stixius Players 151 posts 14,277 battles Report post #13 Posted July 23, 2016 (edited) I assume these people at rank 1 are just stat padders? For the whole of this season, I've not got past rank 17. I win one. I lose one. I win one. I lose one. Over and over and over. Thing is, I'm frequently in the top 3 players for the match. It's infuriating. You get punished even harder for an afk/bot player because there's so few of you. I give up on it. [edited] Edited July 24, 2016 by RogDodgeUK This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to forum rules violation.~RogDodgeUK Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_x_Acheron_x_ Players 484 posts 6,096 battles Report post #14 Posted July 23, 2016 "Has a 38,64 % win rate in ranked; blames the teams." Seems legit. It's not like the issue might be a lack of self-awareness or anything. Sorry, when did WR = Individual skill? Am I supposed to take 6 enemy ships out on my own? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Kartoffelmos Alpha Tester 2,237 posts 8,884 battles Report post #15 Posted July 23, 2016 Sorry, when did WR = Individual skill? When you figure out that after a certain number of battles, you are the only common factor in all of the games. I could also point to the fact that you use non-optimal (T5) ships and play them rather poorly based on damage per game, kills per game and XP per game, but I thought it would be obvious enough with only WR. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robihr Players 3,168 posts 9,352 battles Report post #16 Posted July 23, 2016 can someone make meme acheron butthurt? just so we can have something to post in his whine threads? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_x_Acheron_x_ Players 484 posts 6,096 battles Report post #17 Posted July 23, 2016 When you figure out that after a certain number of battles, you are the only common factor in all of the games. I could also point to the fact that you use non-optimal (T5) ships and play them rather poorly based on damage per game, kills per game and XP per game, but I thought it would be obvious enough with only WR. lol someone with 137 ranked battles is trying to give me advice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PP-PP] KHETTIFER Players 348 posts 17,151 battles Report post #18 Posted July 23, 2016 When you figure out that after a certain number of battles, you are the only common factor in all of the games. I could also point to the fact that you use non-optimal (T5) ships and play them rather poorly based on damage per game, kills per game and XP per game, but I thought it would be obvious enough with only WR. Sry but " the only common factor in all of your games is you" is a garbage statement in a game with random match making, the truth about match making systems is some poor bugger HAS to get the shitty end of the stick, because it actually requires millions of players for the system to work correctly. We have the very same issues over at MWO, where a top tier player can have an almost endless run of being matched with window licking scrubs, and no amount of tryharding is gonna carry the game for you, but you inevitably always get some chump throw the "the only common denominator in your matches is you". Pfffft. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JiksTBS Players 255 posts 13,157 battles Report post #19 Posted July 23, 2016 Sry but " the only common factor in all of your games is you" is a garbage statement in a game with random match making, the truth about match making systems is some poor bugger HAS to get the shitty end of the stick, because it actually requires millions of players for the system to work correctly. We have the very same issues over at MWO, where a top tier player can have an almost endless run of being matched with window licking scrubs, and no amount of tryharding is gonna carry the game for you, but you inevitably always get some chump throw the "the only common denominator in your matches is you". Pfffft. Some battles you will have favorable MM, sometimes not. Sometimes your team will be great, sometimes not so much. Over a long enough series of games these will even out and the only common factor in all of those games is you, the player. Therefore WR IS indeed a fair indication of a particular player's contribution to a teams success. No one can be consistently lucky or unlucky with external factors over 1000+ games. A sub-40% WR indicates, at best, someone who does not play well with others & probably not good at all. Anyone who has over 65% WR is quite clearly exceptionally good. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kingduckling Players 187 posts 6,035 battles Report post #20 Posted July 23, 2016 ranked is not for you. Ranked hurts because you are bad, you are bad because no will to get better. Thread over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CAPT] DarthDon49 Players 523 posts 12,885 battles Report post #21 Posted July 23, 2016 what ship do you use in Ranked? I tend to use destroyers as you're more likely to be the top player on your team (if you're any good in it); so if you lose a game you don't lose a star. You get a huge amount of XP by capping bases, so staying alive as long as possible and capping bases is a great way to win or not lose a star. So far, every match my team lost and I was the top scorer, I had no star to lose. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aboch Beta Tester 452 posts 8,129 battles Report post #22 Posted July 23, 2016 I win one. I lose one. I win one. I lose one. Over and over and over. That fits perfectly your winrate of 50%, you win won, you lose one .... Working as intended. Now seriously, why the hell should an absolute average or even below average player get as far as rank 1 is out of my mind, logic and common sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aboch Beta Tester 452 posts 8,129 battles Report post #23 Posted July 23, 2016 As I said, I get High calibre in 9/10 games that I lose in ranked I would say you are a liar .... You have 72 battles in ranked and in your whole career of over 1500 battles exactly 17x high caliber. If it was true that you make a high caliber in 9/10 games you should have at least 65x high caliber only from ranked battles. Busted! I have no idea why someone has need to lie on obvious things?!?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Kartoffelmos Alpha Tester 2,237 posts 8,884 battles Report post #24 Posted July 23, 2016 lol someone with 137 ranked battles is trying to give me advice. I didn't see any advice in my post, only a simple statement. I don't particularly care if you agree with it or not, but you should stop blaming the team and try to be better yourself. Now that, my friend, is an advice. As for my number of ranked battles, feel free to note that the total number that you listed was enough to get me to rank 1 in the second season and to the reward-flag ranks in the following seasons. But hey, I'm not the one whining on the forum without any real cause, so why point your finger at me? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] lup3s Players 5,744 posts 32,902 battles Report post #25 Posted July 23, 2016 At the moment, kirov and kamikaze. Kami might be good (don't have it), but you might want to choose top tier ships for Ranked (or a CV, doesn't really matter then) the first battles (T5-T6) I did with the Bogue / Cleveland and I got to the T6-T7 battles rather quickly (losing 'only' 2 battles) the T6-T7 battles I played with Mahan / Pensa / Colorado, but once I noticed I gained stars faster (and lost less) when playing the Mahan, I abandoned the Colorado and Pensacola BUT, if I see the queue is filled with few battleships and lots of destroyers or cruisers, I usually take the Pensacola; it's AP rounds are just devastating Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
