[LPS] naqoy Beta Tester 19 posts Report post #476 Posted December 11, 2017 bad decision imo. from gudbode to mehbode. no sigma 1.9 = no purchase for me. oh, and it's super likely that roma comes with 0.6.15 (21.12.17). no proof. just what i think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deBanfield Players 80 posts 3,420 battles Report post #477 Posted December 11, 2017 21 hours ago, SparvieroVV said: RN Roma ————- so many ships ahead ahead of the Roma in the queue and I imagine Duke of York and Scharnhorst bundles will dovetail the campaign with loot boxes. WG will wait for wallets to recover before tossing out 120€ Roma bundles. Thanks for the reply. Why do you use RN Roma? Regia Marina is RM. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Verdius Beta Tester 1,989 posts 4,247 battles Report post #478 Posted December 11, 2017 16 minutes ago, deBanfield said: Thanks for the reply. Why do you use RN Roma? Regia Marina is RM. The N stands for the italian word for ship nave, like how S in HMS stands for his/her majesties ship. RN is a prefix like HMS and USS. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deBanfield Players 80 posts 3,420 battles Report post #479 Posted December 11, 2017 6 minutes ago, Verdius said: The N stands for the italian word for ship nave, like how S in HMS stands for his/her majesties ship. I am well aware what it stands for. You don't explain what the correct term is. My book 'Storia della Guerra nel Mediterraneo (1940-43)' does not use either prefix, but neither does it use one for the Royal Navy, so I am puzzled as to what is the correct prefix. I am happy to accept either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Historynerd Beta Tester 4,249 posts 848 battles Report post #480 Posted December 11, 2017 1 hour ago, deBanfield said: I am well aware what it stands for. You don't explain what the correct term is. My book 'Storia della Guerra nel Mediterraneo (1940-43)' does not use either prefix, but neither does it use one for the Royal Navy, so I am puzzled as to what is the correct prefix. I am happy to accept either. RN stands for "Regia Nave" ("Royal Ship", literally translated). It was the standard form for official documents regarding a ship (although at times they could be referred to with the ship type, for example "Regio Cacciatorpediniere", "Royal Destroyer"). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SparvieroVV Players 684 posts 73 battles Report post #481 Posted December 11, 2017 Basically a prefix doesn’t need to be used however if it is used it is RN. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Historynerd Beta Tester 4,249 posts 848 battles Report post #482 Posted December 14, 2017 It looks like the Roma has caused quite the sh*tstorm, huh? That nerf has really released the hounds from hell. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SparvieroVV Players 684 posts 73 battles Report post #483 Posted December 14, 2017 I will hold my expectations. It seems Mostly noise and hopefully CC video will appear soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLOBS] Spellfire40 Beta Tester 5,330 posts 13,776 battles Report post #484 Posted December 14, 2017 On 11.12.2017 at 3:42 PM, naqoy said: bad decision imo. from gudbode to mehbode. no sigma 1.9 = no purchase for me. oh, and it's super likely that roma comes with 0.6.15 (21.12.17). no proof. just what i think. Well all CC said the guns did not behave even with 1.9 and we are talking about some very expirienced players in some cases here. On the other hand WG has the cold hard datas of not only the CCs but also of ST so perhaps they see something we do not. 1.8 or 1.9 is for me no reason not to buy her when i can make 1.5 ships work with little trobble. I am happy about the change? No i think the conceilment is a much more unbalanced point of her than her gunperformence but i hold my Jugment for now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DeathWing_ Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 2,625 posts 9,867 battles Report post #485 Posted December 14, 2017 On 12/11/2017 at 3:42 PM, naqoy said: bad decision imo. from gudbode to mehbode. no sigma 1.9 = no purchase for me. The actual impact this change has is fairly minimal, I agree, the problem is the approach WG is taking here. On the other hand, the insane strength the ship has is incredible concealment (11.2km!) combined with great armor. Considering how good the armor already is, there's little reason for the ship to beat cruisers in concealment, not to mention the whole premise of a BB outspotting a Cruiser is absurd in my book. So instead of touching on the one thing I would consider too strong on the ship, they start fiddling with what I already consider a bit of a weakness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deBanfield Players 80 posts 3,420 battles Report post #486 Posted December 20, 2017 What does sigma 1.9 mean? How does it effect performance? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] qkarl Players 52 posts Report post #487 Posted December 20, 2017 12 minutes ago, deBanfield said: What does sigma 1.9 mean? How does it effect performance? More dispersion of the main battery. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nishi_Kinuyo Players 249 posts 1,721 battles Report post #488 Posted December 20, 2017 1 hour ago, deBanfield said: What does sigma 1.9 mean? How does it effect performance? It affects the tendency of shells to stick to the centre or veer off to the edge of the dispersion ellipse. With higher numbers meaning more tightly clustered shells towards the centre. Spoiler 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deBanfield Players 80 posts 3,420 battles Report post #489 Posted December 21, 2017 So, 2.0 sigma is better than 1.9, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deBanfield Players 80 posts 3,420 battles Report post #490 Posted December 21, 2017 No RN Roma in sight yet with today's update. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[MORIA] quickr Players 1,953 posts 25,232 battles Report post #491 Posted December 21, 2017 Higher the number the better, so yes, 2.0 is better than 1.9 Also, from reddit, we already knew Roma is not coming out with this patch. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SparvieroVV Players 684 posts 73 battles Report post #492 Posted December 21, 2017 Any word on what was "rebalanced" on Abruzzi or is it just in a holding pattern until christmas crates are gone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DeathWing_ Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 2,625 posts 9,867 battles Report post #493 Posted December 22, 2017 I think she will be with us after DoY. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Verdius Beta Tester 1,989 posts 4,247 battles Report post #494 Posted December 22, 2017 20 hours ago, SparvieroVV said: Any word on what was "rebalanced" on Abruzzi or is it just in a holding pattern until christmas crates are gone? Only thing that I remember reading a while ago was about a minor turret traverse and gun elevation speeds (didn't even know that there was a stat for that, not that it ever matters) buffs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-OOF-] ollonborre Beta Tester 2,598 posts 12,758 battles Report post #495 Posted December 22, 2017 On 2017-12-06 at 11:16 AM, Historynerd said: Concealment is something that a destroyer and, somewhat less, a cruiser is supposed to have and is part of his gameplay to a degree, even though we should differentiate between lines, since it's not the same thing for everybody. A concealment-geared BB is something highly unusual. When you deprive such a BB of its concealment, it's a bigger loss for it. Going to harp on what @affeks said, but the last part in particular is just wrong. Having a BB without concealment build is very rare, and there is something fundamentally wrong with the game when we are in a time where a cruiser can at best outspot a same tier BB with ~2 km margain (sometimes even less). And it's not like it is limited to just a few ships, pretty much every BB gets insane values from a concealment build. I mean in the König for example you can get 12 km concealment. That is almost the same as an Omaha, and you don't need to be an expert to see who has the upper hand when both get spotted at roughly the same time. I'm all up for diverse build options, but this whole concealment obsession is rapidly going downhill. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
deBanfield Players 80 posts 3,420 battles Report post #496 Posted December 27, 2017 Apart from smokescreens, of course, I am anti concealment that is not natural, i.e., from storms, heavy seas, rain, snow and fog. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SparvieroVV Players 684 posts 73 battles Report post #497 Posted December 28, 2017 Radar_X on WGNA forums concerning Roma for 2017. https://forum.worldofwarships.com/topic/146320-roma-is-coming-in-4-days/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SparvieroVV Players 684 posts 73 battles Report post #498 Posted December 29, 2017 Also it appears a horrible Kobayashi camo is set to appear with Roma....because why not? d Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_DeathWing_ Alpha Tester, Players, In AlfaTesters 2,625 posts 9,867 battles Report post #499 Posted December 31, 2017 We will wait for this beauty a bit more "Hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the Roma will not be available on January 1st. It's slated to launch later in 2018 and we'll obviously give you more firm dates when that time comes." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SparvieroVV Players 684 posts 73 battles Report post #500 Posted December 31, 2017 lol your powers of observation took the holiday off? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites