Roma - Tier VIII Premium Italian BB suggestion

[ImperialAdmiral]

 

Littorio class - Principal Technical Characteristics*

 

Displacement (tonnes): standard 41,650, light load 44,050, full load 46,215 (Roma)

 

Dimensions (metres):    overall lenght 238.8 (Roma); waterline 232.4;

                                         between perpendiculars 234.5

                                         overall width 32.9; waterline 32.4

                                         average draught under full load 10.5; under light load 9.8

 

Machinery:                      Eight Yarrow boilers with angled water tubes, with superheating

                                         Four Belluzzo geared turbine groups, simple reduction

                                         Four three-bladed propellers; three rudders, one main and two auxiliary

                                         output at normal speed at full power = 133,000 hp

                                         output developed during trials: 139,561 hp (Littorio), 134,616 hp (Veneto)

 

Speed:                             maximum 29 at full load (trials Littorio 31.2 at 41,782 tonnes; Veneto 31.4 at 41,900 tonnes)

 

Range (miles/at knots): 4,580/16; 3,920/20; 1,770/30 with 4,000 tonnes of fuel

 

Armour (mm):                 maximum vertical, at waterline 350 (composite 70 + 280); maximum

                                        horizontal 207; tower 260; main gun turrets 380-350; medium calibre turrets 280-150

 

Underwater protection:  Pugliese "absorbing cylinder" system

 

Armament (mm)             Nine 381/50 guns in triple turrets

                                        Twelve 152/55 guns in four triple turrets

                                        Four 120/40 guns for illumination rounds in single shielded mounts

                                        Twelve 90/50 anti-aircraft guns in stabilised single turrets

                                        Twenty 37/54 guns in eight twin mounts and four single mounts

                                        Twenty 20/65 guns in ten twin mounts (from 1942: Roma twenty-eight in fourteen mounts)

                                        One traversing catapult, at the stern, and three aircraft (three Ro 43 floatplanes; from the end of 1942: two or one Ro 43 and one or two Re 2000 GA fighters)

 

Radar:                            Type EC 3/ter "Gufo" (Roma, one from June 1943)

 

Crew:                             normal complement 1,866 (comprising 92 officers, 122 warrant officers, 12 civilians, 134 petty officers, 1,506 seamen)

 

 

 

*Technical data based on the book: The Littorio Class: Italy's Last and Largest Battleships 1937-1948 by Erminio Bagnasco and Augusto de Toro

[Deamon93]

That may happen considering WG proved time and time again the fact that they'll happily implement premium clones(ie ships from the same class present in the standard line at the same tier). With this said we shall see

[Historynerd]

I sure wouldn't be averse to see it.

 

However, it seems to me that she's too similar to her sisters of the Littorio-class (which we can presume will be the Tier VIII BB of the regular Italian tree), to be considered as a premium.

[ImperialAdmiral]

 

However, it seems to me that she's too similar to her sisters of the Littorio-class (which we can presume will be the Tier VIII BB of the regular Italian tree), to be considered as a premium.

 

Yet still she differs from her sisters. Mainly thanks to the different tower design. So in the times of Premium clones that would be a progress. 

Plus out of the three I like her camo scheme the most.

[Historynerd]

Yet still she differs from her sisters. Mainly thanks to the different tower design. So in the times of Premium clones that would be a progress. 

Plus out of the three I like her camo scheme the most.

 

In terms of armament, protection and mobility any difference that she has is at most minimal. Eye candy alone isn't enough, in my opinion.

[Trainspite]

I sure wouldn't be averse to see it.

 

However, it seems to me that she's too similar to her sisters of the Littorio-class (which we can presume will be the Tier VIII BB of the regular Italian tree), to be considered as a premium.

 

*Looks at Marblehead and Murmansk. And Kamikaze R and Fujin.

 

Since Roma is arguably the more well known of the 3, if she makes money, I guess WG would put her in, since she doesn't interfere in a tech tree.

 

[Deamon93]

 

*Looks at Marblehead and Murmansk. And Kamikaze R and Fujin.

 

Since Roma is arguably the more well known of the 3, if she makes money, I guess WG would put her in, since she doesn't interfere in a tech tree.

 

 

There are many more clones than those, still I think the best comparison would be Bismarck/Tirpitz since they would be tier VIIIs just like Littorio/Roma(or whatever one of the three would be the premium).

[Historynerd]

There are many more clones than those, still I think the best comparison would be Bismarck/Tirpitz since they would be tier VIIIs just like Littorio/Roma(or whatever one of the three would be the premium).

 

But Tirpitz has torpedoes. 

[Pekoe_Darjeeling]

I'm not going to buy any more premium ships. I would rather see her as standard. I guess she will end up as a premium tho because money.

[Unintentional_submarine]

 

 

Where was this on the ship?

Based on the proximity and angle of the portholes on either side it looks like the very bow or stern of the ship, but since I can't see the base of the superstructure very well, it could possible be there?

[Hawker_gb]

 

*Looks at Marblehead and Murmansk. And Kamikaze R and Fujin.

 

Since Roma is arguably the more well known of the 3, if she makes money, I guess WG would put her in, since she doesn't interfere in a tech tree.

 

 

Vitttorio Veneto is mosta famous of 3.

[Deamon93]

 

But Tirpitz has torpedoes. 

 

True but we shall see the other differences as well(torpedoes, while cool, aren't exactly the main damage dealers of a BB to begin with).

 

I'm not going to buy any more premium ships. I would rather see her as standard. I guess she will end up as a premium tho because money.

 

I'm sure the class will be standard so no worries there

 

 

[Trainspite]

 

Vitttorio Veneto is mosta famous of 3.

 

Debatable. 

 

[Hawker_gb]

 

Debatable. 

 

 

Roma is famous only because of Fritz X.

 

Vittorio Veneto actually fight against other ships.

 

 

[Deamon93]

 

Vitttorio Veneto is mosta famous of 3.

 

As said by Trainspite is debatable: between the three RN Roma is the most famous due to her fate and not her combat record. Between the older twins(ie RN Littorio and RN Vittorio Veneto) they are fairly equal since they have comparable combat record, the only edge VV may have is the fact outside Italy people keep on naming the class as Vittorio Veneto-class instead of Littorio-class because reasons(same goes for the Caio Duilio-class named over and over again after her sister RN Andrea Doria).

[Hawker_gb]

 

As said by Trainspite is debatable: between the three RN Roma is the most famous due to her fate and not her combat record. Between the older twins(ie RN Littorio and RN Vittorio Veneto) they are fairly equal since they have comparable combat record, the only edge VV may have is the fact outside Italy people keep on naming the class as Vittorio Veneto-class instead of Littorio-class because reasons(same goes for the Caio Duilio-class named over and over again after her sister RN Andrea Doria).

 

Littorio have furthest straddle salvo of any ship in era. (Scharnhorst hold record for longest shot with naval gun).

Vittorio Veneto see some good fights.

 

Roma is known only because Fritz X.

 

Still,Litorrio class is probably best looking battleships.

Sadly they broken up after war because dispute between allies.

[ImperialAdmiral]

 

Where was this on the ship?

Based on the proximity and angle of the portholes on either side it looks like the very bow or stern of the ship, but since I can't see the base of the superstructure very well, it could possible be there?

 

Was checking the longitudinal section on the centerline schemes and it seems that board room and other rooms for senior officers were placed on the extreme stern.

[Widar_Thule]

I prefer Roma, but Vittorio Veneto is fine too. I have seen more than enough of the Japanese and USA battleships in WOWS as it is. It is high time that ships like Hood, Roma/Vittorio Veneto, Richelieu/Jean Bart are added.

 

[ImperialAdmiral]

I would like to see Vittorio Veneto as a part of the main tech tree. Mostly because she saw combat. 

And which one is more famous? As it was said, that's debatable. For some it can be even Littorio/Italia.

[Historynerd]

True but we shall see the other differences as well(torpedoes, while cool, aren't exactly the main damage dealers of a BB to begin with).

 

Perhaps I'm just stubborn, but regardless of the damage they can deal, they sure give some variety.

[Deamon93]

 

Perhaps I'm just stubborn, but regardless of the damage they can deal, they sure give some variety.

 

I'm of the same advice but we shall see, too early to say

[Comrad_StaIin]

That may happen considering WG proved time and time again the fact that they'll happily implement premium clones(ie ships from the same class present in the standard line at the same tier). With this said we shall see

 

wasnt the Roma the most modern of the Littorios?

also had some differences like Tirpitz and Bismarck (iirc they had a differnt bow shape)so they are not exactly clones

 

also 

[BabyAdmiral]

Yes, I would like to see it, and yes, I would most certainly buy it if we see it.

[BabyAdmiral]

I'm not going to buy any more premium ships. I would rather see her as standard.

 

I'm at the other end of the spectrum. I have grinded four standard trees now: IJN BBs, US BBs, IJN cruisers and Soviet cruisers. For me, that feels like enough grinding. I hope for more premiums from now on, as it is less likely that I will be grinding many more trees. I'd like to try out German, British, Italian and French ships too though, so I keep my fingers crossed for a good amount of premiums from said nations.

[Deamon93]

 

wasnt the Roma the most modern of the Littorios?

also had some differences like Tirpitz and Bismarck (iirc they had a differnt bow shape)so they are not exactly clones

 

also 

 

She was but the differences were minor. Minor enough that, paint scheme aside(all three had distinct paint schemes making them easy to recognize), you would need a sharp eye to say which is which.