[CG] DuxSkylux Players 20 posts 25,786 battles Report post #1 Posted July 14, 2016 It's impossible to play with fuso when you don't have upgrade and you are the limit to 13 KM for you cannon ! You have a detected rang of quite 17 KM so your live in a game it's quite ridiculous ! Change it or eliminate this boat. Bye Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Admiral_Noif Weekend Tester 873 posts 6,620 battles Report post #2 Posted July 14, 2016 (edited) It is bad at begin, but when you get upgrade... the story will be another . At begin of Fuso with all 1st stuffs, do some brawler stuffs until you get upgrades for long shots. Fuso is one of the great ship, when you get full upgraded, so don't throw your axe away if you don't know how to handle it. Edited July 14, 2016 by Admiral_Noif Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TACHA] triumphgt6 Players 1,870 posts 22,631 battles Report post #3 Posted July 14, 2016 Once upgraded, it is a long range shot gun - great fun! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LetsRockAndRoll Players 720 posts 9,732 battles Report post #4 Posted July 14, 2016 It's impossible to play with fuso when you don't have upgrade and you are the limit to 13 KM for you cannon ! You have a detected rang of quite 17 KM so your live in a game it's quite ridiculous ! Change it or eliminate this boat. Bye Don't use free xp to unlock ships! Grind the normal xp out and use free xp to unlock upgraded hulls etc. Then you will never have the misery of playing a stock ship again. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] AgarwaenME Beta Tester 4,811 posts 13,808 battles Report post #5 Posted July 14, 2016 It's impossible to play with fuso when you don't have upgrade and you are the limit to 13 KM for you cannon ! You have a detected rang of quite 17 KM so your live in a game it's quite ridiculous ! Change it or eliminate this boat. Bye If you think the fuso should be played at max range, please eliminate yourself from this game. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CG] DuxSkylux Players 20 posts 25,786 battles Report post #6 Posted July 14, 2016 ok, many thanks for you replies 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Ictogan Players 1,841 posts 7,432 battles Report post #7 Posted July 14, 2016 Upgrade to B hull and you will notice some slight improvements. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TACHA] triumphgt6 Players 1,870 posts 22,631 battles Report post #8 Posted July 14, 2016 It is a good brawler as you can easily kill destroyers as you have so many guns! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOTES] ShuggieHamster [BOTES] Players 807 posts 13,196 battles Report post #9 Posted July 14, 2016 at some point can people stop these whining post along the lines of "its too hard, I want it to be easy all the time". seriously ... thousands have people have looked at the fuso, went ok, the stock hull sucks but a little bit of work, play a bit cunning and it will be great yet the snowflakes keep whining. man up for petes sake, you are embarrassing yourself. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,177 battles Report post #10 Posted July 14, 2016 The funny thing is, my first games in the Fuso with stock hull were a blast. I played it as a tank. Always bow on to the enemy BBs. They must have been extremly frustrated with their salvos. Youl will not not be the hero of the game, but you get good results. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] AgarwaenME Beta Tester 4,811 posts 13,808 battles Report post #11 Posted July 14, 2016 The funny thing is, my first games in the Fuso with stock hull were a blast. I played it as a tank. Always bow on to the enemy BBs. They must have been extremly frustrated with their salvos. Youl will not not be the hero of the game, but you get good results. That's the thing. The largest advantage the fuso has is its humongous damage potential, not its rage. Getting close enough, and reducing damage as much as you can by angling etc, lets you really put the hurt on. Sitting beyond 15km just means you're ignored until you're the last to die. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PRAVD] duoinvasion Players 390 posts 9,058 battles Report post #12 Posted July 14, 2016 (edited) It's impossible to play with fuso when you don't have upgrade and you are the limit to 13 KM for you cannon ! You have a detected rang of quite 17 KM so your live in a game it's quite ridiculous ! Change it or eliminate this boat. Bye [edited] Edited July 15, 2016 by RogDodgeUK This post has been edited by a member of the Moderation Team, due to forum rules violation.~RogDodgeUK 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #13 Posted July 14, 2016 10/clickbait, would bang, would not shoot out a torpedotube. Came in here with torches, pitchforks and Fusou fanboy banners flying only to see that you're talking about the stock hull ... well played sir! Stock Fusou is indeed meh. Probably the biggest meh where stock hulls are concerned in the current version of the game. But as others have said, either free XP that B hull or take the pain for some games (I don't even know how much XP it is to B hull, but at tier VI it can't be too much). Once you get that Pagoda-style tower on the B hull with its elevated rangefinders and your neat 19,6km range (without GFCS upgrade!) you'll love it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robihr Players 3,168 posts 9,352 battles Report post #14 Posted July 14, 2016 one of the most OP t6 ships gets called worst boat of the game... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORCH] BL00DHOUND187 Players 48 posts 4,111 battles Report post #15 Posted July 14, 2016 Played this ship in the CBT and was really nice to play. Even though it maybe stock with 13km range it should not stop you from having a good game in it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] eliastion Players 4,795 posts 12,260 battles Report post #16 Posted July 14, 2016 one of the most OP t6 ships gets called worst boat of the game... Well, it's just that OP has his hed stuck too deep down his... you know. If the topic was titled properly: "Stock Fuso is a nightmare", "Stoc Fuso is so bad I want to cry" or something like that, I'd kinda second that. My Fuso gathers seagull poop in port but I know I'll get back to grinding it some time after Rankeds end - if, however, I didn't have free XP lying around I'd probably just say "screw that" and sell the damned thing for scrap. Lacking in mobility to close the range and concealment to get close unspotted AND range is a painful combination. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IRQ] AnotherDuck [IRQ] Players 2,930 posts 7,510 battles Report post #17 Posted July 14, 2016 First game I had I nuked two cruisers in my first three salvos. And the first salvo just hit a mountain anyway, due to how targetting worked. You see, there are these things called "islands" you can use to sneak a little closer without taking a lot of fire meanwhile (which Fuso handles reasonably well anyway, being a BB). And with only stock Fuso range, you're going to hit what you aim at if you're even remotely competent at aiming. It's still not comparable to the upgraded hull. I went a long time before I even bought the range upgrade, since it's not really needed for anything other than the first salvo of the game, and when you relocate after having sunk all ships on your half of the map. Or if you want to shoot the enemy carrier if it happens to be spotted by adventurous DDs or carrier snipers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Syrchalis Players 1,401 posts 3,820 battles Report post #18 Posted July 14, 2016 at some point can people stop these whining post along the lines of "its too hard, I want it to be easy all the time". Ah, that's why there is so many who want carriers removed. They only want easy-to-play ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] Djansolo [HOO] Beta Tester 229 posts 10,834 battles Report post #19 Posted July 14, 2016 I know where OP is comming from. If you only know the Fuso as opponent, you are used to see it shooting from 20 km away. So when you upgrade from Kongo to Fuso, you think "YES, my turn for the long guns. Sure it starts stock, but what is stock? 10% = 2 km shorter = 18 or 19 or so?." And then you see 13...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IRQ] AnotherDuck [IRQ] Players 2,930 posts 7,510 battles Report post #20 Posted July 15, 2016 If you only know the Fuso as opponent, you are used to see it shooting from 20 km away. So when you upgrade from Kongo to Fuso, you think "YES, my turn for the long guns. Sure it starts stock, but what is stock? 10% = 2 km shorter = 18 or 19 or so?." You're saying that as if Fuso has significantly longer range than Kongo... If I end up in a low-tier map with Kongo (especially Big Race), I can pretty much choose any visible target on the whole map, unless there's a high mountain in the way (like on Solomon). There's pretty much always at least one delicious broadside to bite into when you have that many targets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HOO] Djansolo [HOO] Beta Tester 229 posts 10,834 battles Report post #21 Posted July 15, 2016 You're saying that as if Fuso has significantly longer range than Kongo... If I end up in a low-tier map with Kongo (especially Big Race), I can pretty much choose any visible target on the whole map, unless there's a high mountain in the way (like on Solomon). There's pretty much always at least one delicious broadside to bite into when you have that many targets. yeah, that came out a bit wrong. And thanks for reminding me of the Kongos xcellent range, I think it was adding to the shock of the stock Fuso for me. I got over it, had some great times in Fuso, although she teaches you bad broadside habits. And Im currently having fun in Nagato. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POP] YukiEiriKun [POP] Beta Tester 1,500 posts 5,749 battles Report post #22 Posted July 15, 2016 I did not play a single game with the stock Fuso because everyone said it would be horrible. So freeXP'd it to the max from the start. Stock Kongo though, had many fun battles with her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sub_Eleven Players 1,225 posts Report post #23 Posted July 15, 2016 @ OP: as my fellow forumites pointed out, save free xp to get past horrible stock ships and you will have a much much better game experience. I can undersdtand your disappointment while suffering through a stock fuso, but she turns out to be a great ship when upgraded. Some ships are worse then others in their stock configuration and it takes experience to know which ones to look out and plan ahead for. Unfortunatly this isn't very obvious when people are fairly new to the game. So, good thing you came to the forum and ask for some input. No reason to re-invent the wheel when there are so many great players lurking about here who can share their experience with you. You can learn from the mistakes people made before you, so you can enjoy playing the game more. Be honest and an adult and you will find 99% of the people here willing to help anyone with questions or issues. Anyway, hope this helped a bit and I'm sure you'll have a much better time once you get the fuso upgraded a bit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[IRQ] AnotherDuck [IRQ] Players 2,930 posts 7,510 battles Report post #24 Posted July 15, 2016 Some ships are worse then others in their stock configuration and it takes experience to know which ones to look out and plan ahead for. Unfortunatly this isn't very obvious when people are fairly new to the game. The Japanese battleships stand out as generally not being nearly as good in stock as with their B (and C) hulls. It's often a step down from the previous fully upgraded ship. For cruisers you just have to check what the upgrades do, but there isn't such a clear pattern. One thing to watch out for is that some of them get additional consumables on the B hull. For destroyers it's pretty much only about if they get significant torpedo upgrades or not. A few of them get stealth torps only after upgrading, which is a huge boon, as it allows for more options. Higher tier Japanese destroyers also have different choices for what torpedoes to pick, depending on playstyle and captain skills. Other than that, the upgrades can certainly be noticeable, but not as game-changing, even for the gunboats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BAZI] allufewig Beta Tester 2,912 posts 15,294 battles Report post #25 Posted July 15, 2016 Ah, that's why there is so many who want carriers removed. They only want easy-to-play ships. Have you ever managed to write a posting without the word "carriers" in it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites