I refuse to be punished for these tk

[AlwaysBadLuckWithTeams]

Seriously, how the heck could I have expected them running right into my torps ??? If I was that paranoid, I couldn't fire any torpedo unless I am the last hope. I was even warning people in chat.

 

Maybe it would help if there was a "not guilty" flag by the killed player which causes no pink punishment. Ofc the victims would have to admit it was their fault in the first place....

[Userext]

First pic- You shouldnt fire torps to places where your team mates can go. I wouldnt have fired there just saying

Third pic- Completly your team mate's fault

 

Also a personal question why does your sign says dont buy arkansas? It was gifted not on sale. Did they put it in sale afterwards?

[ColonelPete]

You can hold your breath in protest until you pass out. Will not change a thing.

 

It was obvious that this was risky.

[JG4_sKylon]

I wouldn´t have torped in both scenarios. 1st one is very obvious, 2nd one too as you mention in your signature that the Sims torps are extremely slow, so much time for your teammate to change course after you send the torps on their way.

[fnord_disc]

Your own fault both times.

 

Bad map awareness from you.

[SkybuckFlying]

Very good idea, this is how other games did it, like Return To Castle Wolfenstein and Battlefield 2.

 

"File a complaint ? (F1=YES, F2=NO)".

 

LOL.

 

Kinda funny how WG is trying to re-invent this stuff ! ;) =D

[AlwaysBadLuckWithTeams]

First pic- You shouldnt fire torps to places where your team mates can go. I wouldnt have fired there just saying

Third pic- Completly your team mate's fault

 

Also a personal question why does your sign says dont buy arkansas? It was gifted not on sale. Did they put it in sale afterwards?

 

I read they are thinking about bringing the Arkansas Beta and Iwaki Alpha into the shop, just without the Beta and Alpha in the name. My stance on aa is that there should be no free kills without any risk. A carrier can take as many sorties as he wants (well, you get the idea...) against a 0 aa Arkansas without ever losing a single plane. That is just bad game design.

 

You can hold your breath in protest until you pass out. Will not change a thing.

 

It was obvious that this was risky.

 

Yeah, both punishments are gone again. It's just, gosh, such situations make you paranoid. You don't expect every idot car driver to hit you when you leave the house, do you ? And that Konigsberg, in a straight line, right towards the bb.

 

I wouldn´t have torped in both scenarios. 1st one is very obvious, 2nd one too as you mention in your signature that the Sims torps are extremely slow, so much time for your teammate to change course after you send the torps on their way.

 

It was ranked. I was torping the smoke as every dd should do. I was warning him in chat when I saw him doing a 180. Heck, he drove right into the hornet's nest instead of away. And he would have been dead anyway the next second. Well, we won, and he was the only casualty on our side....

[ColonelPete]

Straight Line Sailing Inc is in the game from start and that company will never go away.

No matter what weather, guns, torpedos, planes or rocky cliffs, Straight Line Sailing Inc will courageously sail on on and not deviate from their path.

[pra3y]

Well you were careless. Plus the forgiveness button/not guilty flag may just result in a spam in chat with the "guilty party" trying to convince the other to forgive, that or people won't really bother with it. How often do people compliment someone else versus how often people report someone. There may be people who might be willing to forgive but their is also probably a larger majority who would just as soon report you rather than forgive.

 

Also the first TK is definitely your fault. Why torp when your teammate is probably gonna push forward? I was entering a cap when the Hatsuharu on my team sailed past and torp into the cap for no reason. I realised it and turn away from the first set. Guess what? Even though I'm right in front of the Hatsuharu it still fired the 2nd set anyway and got me with one. Just don't ever torp when a teammate is in front of you or could potentially be. If you really have no choice but to do so and it hits your teammate then just accept it as your fault and move on

[Krizmuz]

And he is allowed to have a Gremy and I am not

 

both times your fault

 

NEVER fire torps if there is the slightest possibility for a friendly to run into them

[RUSSIANBlAS]

I did 20k damage in a similar friendly torp accident in Ranked. Yet I didn't kill the guy so wasn't pink and came top of the losing team 

 

To say the other guy was unhappy was an understatement...

[beercrazy]

why the hell did you fire torps with your team in front of you?????

god damn it I am sick of these people crying when they torp their own team because "they" feel its not their fault

 

easy way to stop hitting own team is don't fire the f***ing torps when friendly ships are near you or in front of you ffs

[RUSSIANBlAS]

Also if there is the slightest chance you can hit a friendly then I wouldn't torp. I've seen people deliberately crash into badly fired friendly torps to punish the careless.

 

If I'm friendly torped in a clearly stupid way then I'll let myself flood to punish them too.

[RUSSIANBlAS]

 

I read they are thinking about bringing the Arkansas Beta and Iwaki Alpha into the shop, just without the Beta and Alpha in the name. My stance on aa is that there should be no free kills without any risk. A carrier can take as many sorties as he wants (well, you get the idea...) against a 0 aa Arkansas without ever losing a single plane. That is just bad game design.

 

Essentially almost all T4 ships, BB or otherwise have pathetic AA. CV can bomb them all with impunity. 0 for AA rating or a small value makes in practical terms no difference...

[BlackSamBellamy]

DD lesson # 1: You MUST NOT launch torps out of second row or into an area your teammates may go.

 

DD lesson # 2: If you do it, you MUST bear the possible cosequences. So bear them.

[kingduckling]

 

The thing with launching torps behind your allies is that it has the disgusting potential to block ally movement when it is badly needed like for example:

1.I am in a cruiser and you are behind me ( because you are a lowskilled coward) 

2. We both just pop out of an island and theres a battleship at 10-12 km.

3. I angle my cruiser so im not broadside, you notice and decide to fire torps past me

4. Enemy BB decides to shoot

5. i turn 180 degrees because i dont want to get closer to the BB and get smashed into your torps

 

Now see the funny thing is, i could have easily not run into your torps. But its either get killed by you or the enemy BB at that point since id have for your torps to safely pass, enemy bb would have been reloaded and im already like 8 km from him.

Every time you fire torps you create a "no pass" zone for your allies, and me being the [edited]i am i refuse to bow down to your autistic perception of the game. 

I am in front, i manned up im getting the cake. And really its not like im personally running deliberately into all friendly torps, but i refuse to bend my maneuvers because some mathematically illiterate clown sent out torps.

 

And speaking of mathematical illiteracy, its your job to calculate what could happen and what ally could run into your torps.

How hard is that? calculating the possibility of torping an ally eh? lets break it down:

 

1-your location (should be hard for you)

2- nearby allies distance from your location

3- having the knowledge of a few ingame variables: torp speed, ally ship speed

4- modifiers like islands that can alter allied ship speed

5- basic knowledge of algebra and geometry that you should have learned by 8th grade

[mtm78]

I read they are thinking about bringing the Arkansas Beta and Iwaki Alpha into the shop, just without the Beta and Alpha in the name. My stance on aa is that there should be no free kills without any risk. A carrier can take as many sorties as he wants (well, you get the idea...) against a 0 aa Arkansas without ever losing a single plane. That is just bad game design.

 

Thanks I already knew my Imperator Nicolai I was broken and needed buffs, now I understand it needs AAA

 

</sarcasm>

[duoinvasion]

Learn to situational awareness

[EsaTuunanen]

1st case: Torping from safe zone to brawling zone.

2nd case:  Basically "third" line torping instead of just second line torping!

 

 

And that Konigsberg, in a straight line, right towards the bb.

Because he clearly has more balls than you:

Also Königsberg has those things called torps for nice high damage punch.

While going bow in he gives smallest target to hit with combined closure rate not giving BB many retries before eating those metal fishes.

 

 

And he is allowed to have a Gremy and I am not

Was thinking of same...

[simonmd]

Seriously, how the heck could I have expected them running right into my torps ??? If I was that paranoid, I couldn't fire any torpedo unless I am the last hope. I was even warning people in chat.

 

Maybe it would help if there was a "not guilty" flag by the killed player which causes no pink punishment. Ofc the victims would have to admit it was their fault in the first place....

 

While I agree that the ones getting torped could have had better situational awareness themselves, YOU ARE TO BLAME. 

 

In the first pic, YOU highlight the fact that you can see the friendly moving TOWARDS where youre about to fire!!! In the second instance, the other DD is CLEARLY in FRONT of you, what is it that you dont understand?? You are in a DD yourself, you never swerve and change course? I would have EXPECTED him to do so!

 

IF THERE IS ANY CHANCE, ANY AT ALL OF HITTING A FRIENDLY, DONT FIRE!!!!

[aboch]

Zero overview, Zero awarness, Zero instinct, Zero team thinking, this combined with your hidden stats makes me think that someone better hopes not to be with you i a team ......

 

This a bit harsh said, learn to get the consequences of your bad play includng loses, punishments and things like that ...... Stop making others responsible for your own mistakes!!!

[Deckeru_Maiku]

 

Thanks I already knew my Imperator Nicolai I was broken and needed buffs, now I understand it needs AAA

 

</sarcasm>

 

From what I've seen in a game today it rather needs some torpedo protection. A lowly Minekaze reduced the pride of the czaristic navy to tinders with just a couple torpedo hits. No stalinium armour against torpedoes, it seems.

[duoinvasion]

How....just how did you get to your Zao and kiev without any kind of situational awareness to drop torps.

This baffles the hell out of me.

My first post stands.

Learn to situational awareness, advise to play at t2 until you learn

[mtm78]

 

From what I've seen in a game today it rather needs some torpedo protection. A lowly Minekaze reduced the pride of the czaristic navy to tinders with just a couple torpedo hits. No stalinium armour against torpedoes, it seems.

 

That is one of the balancing factors, torpedo protection isn't stronk

 

Luckily usually DD's are potato enough to let you kill them before they inflict to much dmg to glorious socialist sheep

[eliastion]

Seriously, how the heck could I have expected them running right into my torps ??? If I was that paranoid, I couldn't fire any torpedo unless I am the last hope. I was even warning people in chat.

 

Maybe it would help if there was a "not guilty" flag by the killed player which causes no pink punishment. Ofc the victims would have to admit it was their fault in the first place....

 

You deserve it both times.

First scenario: sorry, but you fired torps that, from the look of it, required your teammate to do one of two things: slow down/stop OR turn, exposing his squishy cruiser broadside to the BB he was charging (presumably with intention of executing a drive-by torpedo attack). You're a teamkiller all-right.

 

Second scenario: you fired torps into the area where friendly gunship was fighting enemy DD. That's lots of chaotic maneuvering and then he died torped in the back. Sorry, but that's you being careless once again. I've seen worse team-torpers than you, that's for sure, but it doesn't mean that you're not one.

 

So, to sum it up: enjoy your new color and the fact that next time you don't watch your torps they might kill you instead. You earned this, There are people who earned it more but that doesn't make your punishment undeserved.