Discussion thread for "some interesting info around the world"

[SparvieroVV]

5 hours ago, Historynerd said:

I would like to add a further anedocte about him. After the destruction of the Duisburg convoy, the Kriegsmarine liaison to the RM command (admiral Eberhard Weichold) went to Sansonetti and criticized how the Italians went about doing their things. His criticism was on point and correct. Sansonetti told him that he was ready to immediately implement any and all suggestion and advice Weichold could give him, if based on the current availability of forces and resources. Strangely, Weichold at this point wasn't able to say anything constructive...

Shocking. 

 

Someone elsewhere made a good point. It looks like the choice of Sansonetti was a quick wiki search.

 

• Commanded a cruiser division. ✔
• Easy to copy picture. ✔

And that was that. 

[Historynerd]

3 hours ago, SparvieroVV said:

Shocking. 

 

Someone elsewhere made a good point. It looks like the choice of Sansonetti was a quick wiki search.

 

• Commanded a cruiser division. ✔
• Easy to copy picture. ✔

And that was that. 

Eh, rather common tactic; human, as well. Criticize the heck out of your target, and hope they don't get up and ask that you do it, since you're obviously so much better than them. 

 

I don't know, it may be; considering the first name choices WG chose not so long ago, I wouldn't put past them and their... enthusiasm in looking up Italian naval history.

Still, not the worst choice they could've picked. After all, Da Zara fought in a very minimal role at Punta Stilo and then had his moment of glory at Pantelleria, but nothing else, Bergamini likewise didn't see too much in terms of naval engagements, and Campioni had too little time for that and was usually in a bad spot.

Besides, it's not like Yamamoto fought in the first lines, did he?

[Deckeru_Maiku]

2 hours ago, Historynerd said:

Besides, it's not like Yamamoto fought in the first lines, did he?

Unless waving his Katana at the P38s that shot down his plane would count as "fighting", then during WWII he didn't...

But he was there when some russian a** was kicked heavily at Tsushima, serving on the cruiser Nisshin... he even got wounded.

[SparvieroVV]

Honestly not much excitement in admirals who were good at logistics and refusing to sacrifice more capable units. Especially when the meme is the British sunk everything. The destroyer captains had a tendency of dying to achieve their notoriety. Iachino is probably off the table for his post war theatrics. Campioni and Bergamini are the shoe in for battleship captains. I think I would prefer Campioni since he met his death in defiance of taking the easy path.  

 

In looking for more glory by the time things were worked out the RMI didn’t have fuel and the British could play the long game avoiding use of heavy units. Also the small issue every engagement used up inordinate amounts of ammo. In the limited opportunities Vian took his cruisers and himself to safety at 2nd Sirte. And then tiffed with Harwood until it was obvious Vigorous was going to fail. So no real chance to shine for anyone. The opportunity to repeat Pantelleria was foiled by poor German eyesight. 

 

Parona has more of a chance as a submarine captain. Most people will go de Courten who? Fioravanzo is best known for what he didn’t do, Etc for the other cruiser division commanders. 

 

If we go by Cernuschi then Matteucci gets consideration for pelting of Warspite by his heavy cruisers. That would cause a riot because despite publishing his book I don’t think the MMI holds strongly to his theories.  

 

Sansonetti isn't a bad choice.  Just not the one brain dead idiots like myself wanted. 

[SparvieroVV]

@Historynerd any luck finding the Ansaldo progetto 39 referenced by WG?

[Pikkozoikum]

On 8/22/2019 at 9:50 PM, Deckeru_Maiku said:

Unless waving his Katana at the P38s that shot down his plane would count as "fighting", then during WWII he didn't...

But he was there when some russian a** was kicked heavily at Tsushima, serving on the cruiser Nisshin... he even got wounded.

Didn't Yamamoto get got heavily wounded, when served on a cruiser?

[SparvieroVV]

20 minutes ago, Pikkozoikum said:

Didn't Yamamoto get got heavily wounded, when served on a cruiser?

Nisshin. An Italian built armored cruiser. Whenever the Japanese turned the line it became target number one instead of Mikasa iirc. 

[Pikkozoikum]

5 minutes ago, SparvieroVV said:

Nisshin. An Italian built armored cruiser. Whenever the Japanese turned the line it became target number one instead of Mikasa iirc. 

Yes, he lost two fingers on the left hand, was reading it again

[Historynerd]

17 hours ago, SparvieroVV said:

@Historynerd any luck finding the Ansaldo progetto 39 referenced by WG?

...That's the first time I heard about this. Could you link me the reference, please?

[SparvieroVV]

19 hours ago, Historynerd said:

...That's the first time I heard about this. Could you link me the reference, please?

 

There was a page here: https://www.wows-gamer-blog.com/2019/07/paolo-emilio-tier-x-italian-destroyer.html

 

That seems to have been removed. Here is the google cache.

 

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:s_pzIIQoMxwJ:https://www.wows-gamer-blog.com/2019/07/paolo-emilio-tier-x-italian-destroyer.html+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

 

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Trophies worth tens of millions of denarii captured by commander Lucius Emilia Pavel during the conquest of Macedonia, allowed the citizens of Rome to be exempted from certain taxes for as long as 120 years. The obverse side of the coin bore the symbol of the denarius being the Roman numeral "X".

 

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Italian 🇮🇹 Tier X Destroyer Paolo Emilio
The project of a relatively large and a very high-speed "armored reconnaissance ship" with powerful main battery, developed by the Ansaldo company under Project UP 39. Paolo Emilio was the predecessor of the Capitani Romani-class light cruisers.

Maybe it is made up and I fell for a joke? I don't know.

[Admiral_H_Nelson]

Q: Are there plans to disclose the drop chances of premium and early access ships within containers, in order to avoid some of the harsher controversies surrounding lootboxes?

We will follow the industry regulations and comply when we're supposed to. Other than that, we may reduce the amount of this type of content to have better balance in what and how we can offer, and that's it. For us, that's a part (not the biggest in any way) of monetization, and a certain delivery method. It IS based on uncertainty. Please don't use it if you don't like it - it's a valid    choice.

 

Great advice, @Sub_Octavian!   "Please don't use it if you don't like it - it's a valid choice."

 

I don't like it so I won't use it. If - Big "IF" - I knew the odds then I might consider lootcrates.

 

But not knowing the odds make this a case of WG dropping this 

on players.

[Kartoffelmos]

57 minutes ago, Hundigo said:

Players of this gamecommunnity asked the help of the European authorities;   

 

several cases;

 

1) WG violated several customers rights in the game. I've pointed them out on this forum. 

2) a lot of players , users of the game, wish to have a refund for several 'premium ships' they've bought seen the change of the gamemechanics in a drastic way'. It goes from DD players till later the CV players that bought them. 

3) Many questions about the CC players. Who are are they and who they represent ? The player community or the WG ? The CC players that went to Sint Petersburg and that are located in Europe gonna have to pay taxes on their 'free trip to it' payed by WG. It's classified as "payed in natura by WG'. The CC's are classified as 'hidden employees ' by WG. In dutch the expression is : " wiens brood m'n eet, diens woord m'n spreekt'. And that is what the CC's are doing. They don't represent the gamecommunity at all. Number 1 should had been done by the CC's and not by me. But the CC's never did, it was me that had to do it. 

The CC players are also 'unicums' in the game, but they represent themselves  as the average playerbase, what isn't the case at all. You can't compare players that does this in their free time and the 'professionals' who does it 8 hours a day and get payed for it.  But the point is, the players that does this in their free time and even the ones that plays the game just the weekends, get insulted all the time here on this forum and also on the CC channels as'potatoes, braindead, they don't know the game at all, they don't know what they do, they shouldn't be allowed in the game ' and all kind of explanations from them. 

4) The result of point 3 is that the 'average player' get insulted all the time , by the CC players on their channels and also on this forum. 

5) The gamecommunity have plans to organise a march on the HQ of Wargaming. Most of them are of course that wish to have a refund. None of the CC players knows about it when it would happen and they are even not invited as representative for the gamecommunity. 

 

Two things:

1. Are you aware that the abbreviation CC stands for Community Contributor?

2. Is this a parody post?

[thiextar]

@Excavatus

 

You might wanna do a bit of cleaning in the "some interesting information from around the world" thread ^^

 

Would have mentioned more moderators, but youre the only one i remembered off the top of my head

[Tyrendian89]

51 minutes ago, thiextar said:

@Excavatus

 

You might wanna do a bit of cleaning in the "some interesting information from around the world" thread ^^

 

Would have mentioned more moderators, but youre the only one i remembered off the top of my head

honestly, as weird as that post is, I kinda get the feeling that it was posted as "an actual piece of news" that the guy believes in (as in, his clan/community may actually be delusional enough to go to "European authorities", and if they did then that'd kinda be "newsworthy" imho)... dunno, up to the Mods I guess...

[thiextar]

56 minutes ago, Tyrendian89 said:

honestly, as weird as that post is, I kinda get the feeling that it was posted as "an actual piece of news" that the guy believes in (as in, his clan/community may actually be delusional enough to go to "European authorities", and if they did then that'd kinda be "newsworthy" imho)... dunno, up to the Mods I guess...

You sweet summer child  i take it you havent seen hundigos old content? The guy is delusional, according to his old stuff, hes already gone to these european authorities about half a dozen times, hes fired half of the wargaming staff and hes apparently had a one-on-one conversation with the ceo of wargaming about the unfair friendly-fire penalty he got, coming to the conclusion that it was indeed unfair. Oh, and hes also the head of an un-named "gamer-group" with 30,000 members.

 

He will probably do the same as in the past, post a bunch of comedy-gold for a few days that we can all have a laugh about, then he will disappear for another few months, id just prefer him not to clutter the one thread on the forum that shares important real information.

[El2aZeR]

6 minutes ago, thiextar said:

The guy is delusional, according to his old stuff, hes already gone to these european authorities about half a dozen times, hes fired half of the wargaming staff and hes apparently had a one-on-one conversation with the ceo of wargaming about the unfair friendly-fire penalty he got, coming to the conclusion that it was indeed unfair. Oh, and hes also the head of an un-named "gamer-group" with 30,000 members.

 

Don't forget he has sued several forum members for "defamation" or sth because we dared to state that the average playerbase is sub-par in skill.

Still waiting for that lawyer to arrive at my doorstep. They can queue up right behind the totally real henchmen of that dot guy who are supposed to break my legs. 

[piet11111]

Aaaand its gone.

What an odd rant that was.

[Tyrendian89]

8 hours ago, thiextar said:

You sweet summer child  i take it you havent seen hundigos old content? The guy is delusional, according to his old stuff, hes already gone to these european authorities about half a dozen times, hes fired half of the wargaming staff and hes apparently had a one-on-one conversation with the ceo of wargaming about the unfair friendly-fire penalty he got, coming to the conclusion that it was indeed unfair. Oh, and hes also the head of an un-named "gamer-group" with 30,000 members.

 

He will probably do the same as in the past, post a bunch of comedy-gold for a few days that we can all have a laugh about, then he will disappear for another few months, id just prefer him not to clutter the one thread on the forum that shares important real information.

huh... fair enough - that's gotta be the one edit* whose name didnt really imprint itself on my memory then, I do usually remember most of them

 

edit: No need for bad words

[CptBarney]

8 hours ago, thiextar said:

You sweet summer child  i take it you havent seen hundigos old content? The guy is delusional, according to his old stuff, hes already gone to these european authorities about half a dozen times, hes fired half of the wargaming staff and hes apparently had a one-on-one conversation with the ceo of wargaming about the unfair friendly-fire penalty he got, coming to the conclusion that it was indeed unfair. Oh, and hes also the head of an un-named "gamer-group" with 30,000 members.

 

He will probably do the same as in the past, post a bunch of comedy-gold for a few days that we can all have a laugh about, then he will disappear for another few months, id just prefer him not to clutter the one thread on the forum that shares important real information.

Who's this den? I probs don't know who it is anyways.

 

Also any word on puerto rico and that unusual russian bb with toineh guns at tier 8?

 

Im not sure how consistent testing is with ships, so i have no clue if they are balanced or still going through a second test phase.

 

 

[Toivia]

3 hours ago, CptBarney said:

Who's this den? I probs don't know who it is anyways.

 

Also any word on puerto rico and that unusual russian bb with toineh guns at tier 8?

 

Im not sure how consistent testing is with ships, so i have no clue if they are balanced or still going through a second test phase.

 

 

I don't believe those two ships were even released for CCs yet. Actually they might not even be on live server at all. So still merely closed testing.

[Exocet6951]

5 hours ago, Tyrendian89 said:

huh... fair enough - that's gotta be the one edit* whose name didnt really imprint itself on my memory then, I do usually remember most of them

 

edit: No need for bad words

#bringbackskybuck 

[RAHJAILARI]

On 8/22/2019 at 6:07 PM, Historynerd said:

Besides, it's not like Yamamoto fought in the first lines, did he?

Actually he did, he was even wounded, losing 2 fingers, while serving in an armored cruiser Nisshin during the battle of Tsushima. But of course that was before he became an admiral. But he was no spring chicken at the least.

 

He was also killed while on his way to an inspection trip to the front lines, when his flight was ambushed by American fighters. So definitely not someone who only stuck to the safety of his office, I'd say.

[thiextar]

6 hours ago, CptBarney said:

Who's this den? I probs don't know who it is anyways.

If you are really interested, this would be the place to look: 

 

i believe that was his first forum presence, and oh boy was it a whooper.

 

Just be careful to not accidentally gouge your eyes out while reading 

 

 

[DFens_666]

1 hour ago, El2aZeR said:

Official statement on the removal of the Enterprise from the premium shop.

 

Source:

https://forum.worldofwarships.eu/topic/123209-dry-dock-enterprise/?tab=comments#comment-3153625

 

AFTER 0.8.7 ?

[Panocek]

36 minutes ago, DFens_666 said:

 

 

AFTER 0.8.7 ?

You know the drill, better late than never