[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,850 battles Report post #14851 Posted June 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Cagliostro_chan said: I mean, The secondaries cannot kill a DD fast enough unless the DD is dawdling around or on low hp. Meanwhile, a good Bismarck could survive such an encounter anyway, given Bismarck has hydro and after it dodges the torps, your DD is basically just a minor annoyance So why the buff? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #14852 Posted June 22, 2019 Just now, invicta2012 said: So why the buff? Because they can now deal with dumb DDs, cruisers inside the range and BBs in brawls. There are more ship types than DDs that a BB will engage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,850 battles Report post #14853 Posted June 22, 2019 46 minutes ago, Cagliostro_chan said: Because they can now deal with dumb DDs, cruisers inside the range and BBs in brawls. There are more ship types than DDs that a BB will engage. They don't need it. It's just a moi aussi buff because of all the other secondary build ships that they've pushed out recently. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Toivia Players 4,019 posts 23,935 battles Report post #14854 Posted June 22, 2019 2 hours ago, invicta2012 said: They don't need it. It's just a moi aussi buff because of all the other secondary build ships that they've pushed out recently. You do realise that French and US (the couple secondary focused) BBs cannot damage high tier BB hulls with secondaries, right? Germans are the only ones that can, if they spec IFHE. And for other ship types, german BBs don't need IFHE at all, giving them a clear advantage over say Georgia in that you can spec Fire Prevention on top of what she can have. Fact is german BBs were falling behind the curve rather badly. Soviet BBs are kinda better in all that matters (main guns and armor when angled) while the likes of Massachussetts just did secondaries far better. Now germans are almost back where they should be as if all the close range powercreep didn't happen. Question is whether it is enough, given the CV meta where any close range fighting is futile... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Excavatus [THESO] Moderator 4,705 posts 17,888 battles Report post #14855 Posted June 24, 2019 They really buffed the LOLbert... really.. I was in a division with my friends a couple days ago.. I was creating a rainbow onto a stalingrad.. and said, This ship needs a survivability buff.. I was joking... But I guess RNGesus heard me!! they buffed the LOLbert!! really!!! Oh yeah on the other hand, Range nerf, didn't do much on smolensk! But anybody who dares to touch her again! I will be there to smack them! Smolensk... she is so beautiful!! so elegant! so deadly! but beautiful! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #14856 Posted June 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, Excavatus said: Oh yeah on the other hand, Range nerf, didn't do much on smolensk! But anybody who dares to touch her again! I will be there to smack them! Smolensk... she is so beautiful!! so elegant! so deadly! but beautiful! Wow, who could guess that. Also nice to see ST who is really caring about balance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Excavatus [THESO] Moderator 4,705 posts 17,888 battles Report post #14857 Posted June 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, fumtu said: Wow, who could guess that. Also nice to see ST who is really caring about balance Yeah I care.. because even though I love every second of my play both in LOLbert and Smokensk (intended) I won't be playing only them, and there will be enemies with them against me in the future.. so... yeah.. that is important :) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #14858 Posted June 24, 2019 Seems like Benham is in the finial state as today it was announced a ship which players would be able to buy in the next update if they get 800 fuel tokens (out of 850 which could be get for free). And it looks quite strong, in competent hands of course. I wouldn't be surprised if Smolensk ends as Steel ship as she does fit among those by its current state. And them it probably overperforming stats will be explained as "only good players are playing with it". Between Smolensk and Colbert I would say that Smolensk would be way easier to balance but also as more chances to ends as OP ships if not properly balanced. Wonder which way it would go from its current state but as being another Glorious Soviet ship I expect it would probably go toward letter. I hope I'm wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Toivia Players 4,019 posts 23,935 battles Report post #14859 Posted June 24, 2019 Wait what, they seriously intend to release Benham as is? And freely available ingame for grinding missions? That is very fishy. Either there is some nerf we are not aware of or those missions are gonna be very hard. As it is, Benham (and Somers - but that one is getting a torp reload nerf) is a torpedo soup extraordinaire. It basically outdoes any and all torpedo DDs ingame. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLITZ] WeGreedy Players 3,005 posts 15,006 battles Report post #14860 Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, fumtu said: Seems like Benham is in the finial state as today it was announced a ship which players would be able to buy in the next update if they get 800 fuel tokens (out of 850 which could be get for free). https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/game-updates/rogue-wave/ Quote The main reward in exchange for 800 tokens is: U.S. destroyer IX Benham with a unique post-apocalyptic camouflage, Commander Dr. Ecraseur with 10 skill points, and a commemorative flag—"U.S.S. Benham." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #14861 Posted June 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Toivia said: That is very fishy. Either there is some nerf we are not aware of or those missions are gonna be very hard. No it is not nerfed Quote Main specifications of the ship: Four 127 mm guns. Firing range—12.6 km; reload time—3.3 seconds; and 180-degree traverse time of her guns—6 seconds. These characteristics are quite decent, but the small number of guns mean that artillery isn’t her best asset. Sixteen torpedoes. Range—10.5 km; speed—65 knots; and damage—15,200 HP. Rapid-reload capabilities, taking just 85 seconds. Her broadside torpedo tube mount is a noteworthy and rather unusual feature for high-tier destroyers. Low detectability by sea—5.9 km (with upgrade, skills, and camo employed) and the American Smoke Generator, the smoke screens of which disperse after more than two minutes. The Engine Boost or Defensive AA Fire consumables are available in slot 3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Toivia Players 4,019 posts 23,935 battles Report post #14862 Posted June 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, fumtu said: No it is not nerfed Eh... Don't know how to feel about that. I think it is too strong. Then again, if it really ends up being reachable by anyone willing to put some effort (understand: time) into the game, it's not as bad as it being sold in the premium shop of for steel. But that's another thing. Will they really give a strong (at very least) T9 premium ship so freely? I cannot believe that after PEF and DoY christmas events. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #14863 Posted June 24, 2019 34 minutes ago, Toivia said: But that's another thing. Will they really give a strong (at very least) T9 premium ship so freely? I cannot believe that after PEF and DoY christmas events. I fully expect the event to be a grind in the arse. I'm also disappointed the Benham looks like it's gated behind said grind. I had expected it to be the next free XP ship, especially after WG has stated a couples times now they got a free XP destroyer in the works. Has that changed @MrConway, @Crysantos? 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #14864 Posted June 24, 2019 3 hours ago, fumtu said: as being another Glorious Soviet ship Comrade, all the Soviet ships were glorious and creamy, even/especially the ones never built. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] josykay Players 711 posts Report post #14865 Posted June 24, 2019 Looks like an iron hard grind to me. But we will get two destroyers, permanent Camouflage... Will see if it is doable or to much like WoT Marathons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Toivia Players 4,019 posts 23,935 battles Report post #14866 Posted June 24, 2019 Oh yeah, still waiting for a FreeXP or even coal DD as well. Was very disappointed with Neustrashimy becoming another Steel DD. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,850 battles Report post #14867 Posted June 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Toivia said: But that's another thing. Will they really give a strong (at very least) T9 premium ship so freely? I cannot believe that after PEF and DoY christmas events. They might be a bit worried about new Steampunk game mode dying on its backside if it doesn't have a big big prize attached to it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Toivia Players 4,019 posts 23,935 battles Report post #14868 Posted June 24, 2019 Nah, all the special game modes had plenty participants. And there will be no CVs in it either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,850 battles Report post #14869 Posted June 24, 2019 'Nowt as queer as folk, I 'spose. If I wanted to play with spaceships there are plenty of other games.... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Toivia Players 4,019 posts 23,935 battles Report post #14870 Posted June 24, 2019 It's usually great from grinding whatever you need. Now I grant you the "special" camos they come up with for halloween/space/apocalypse/whatever are awful and I'd be extremely happy if I could disable them while still using their bonuses on my ships. (No way am I looking at the Halloween camo on my Kagero, even though I'd love to use a permacamo on it, for example. Another example for quite some people is the Roma beercan camouflage. You'd want the great economic bonuses, but that beercan...) 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZoidFile ∞ Players 569 posts 12,052 battles Report post #14871 Posted June 24, 2019 49 minutes ago, Toivia said: I'd be extremely happy if I could disable them while still using their bonuses on my ships. Yea it would be great if there was a function that lets you display special event cammos as regular premium cammos. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Toivia Players 4,019 posts 23,935 battles Report post #14872 Posted June 24, 2019 11 minutes ago, ZoidFile said: Yea it would be great if there was a function that lets you display special event cammos as regular premium cammos. Absolutely, that would be awesome. So many camos would get opened up for use then, including the dozen or so given for free for US and french CAs during the april space event. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLITZ] WeGreedy Players 3,005 posts 15,006 battles Report post #14873 Posted June 25, 2019 10 hours ago, Toivia said: Absolutely, that would be awesome. So many camos would get opened up for use then, including the dozen or so given for free for US and french CAs during the april space event. Indeed, but maybe there's at least a mod for that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AMOK] Donar79 Players 1,968 posts 9,010 battles Report post #14874 Posted June 25, 2019 15 hours ago, Aotearas said: I'm also disappointed the Benham looks like it's gated behind said grind. I had expected it to be the next free XP ship, especially after WG has stated a couples times now they got a free XP destroyer in the works. Has that changed I am sure you can buy her for a "favorable price" (70-80€? ) or some super duper packages for above 100€ in some weeks/months. Was interested in the ship too but i won't grind my arse off or buy some silly gamble containers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Mr_Tayto Players 1,099 posts 10,119 battles Report post #14875 Posted June 25, 2019 12 hours ago, ZoidFile said: Yea it would be great if there was a function that lets you display special event cammos as regular premium cammos. Wouldn't happen, as they sit alongside the special camos which can be bought for doubloons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
