[T-N-T] Toivia Players 4,019 posts 23,935 battles Report post #14776 Posted June 8, 2019 Technically, Jean Bart already got an inflated coal price over Musashi (228k over some 170k or so coal) same as Alaska/Azuma got inflated to 1 million FreeXP over Missouri/Kronshtadt/Musashi's 750k FreeXP. So one could hope Georgia as a T9 could remain at a similar price to JB with Yoshino probably quite a bit more expensive. But they could just ramp up the inflation anew, so... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #14777 Posted June 9, 2019 If yoshi is less then 300k coal we can count urselves lucky 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #14778 Posted June 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Historynerd said: From the devblog - ST, new mechanics and consumables There will be closed testing of new mechanics and consumables for the new possible game mode: - Fuel Smoke consumable. By injecting fuel into the smoke stack the ship is covered by the smoke screen, but for the less time than using Smoke Generator. This consumable allows the ship to move at full speed and still be in the smoke screen; - Smoke Shells consumable, which allows setting smoke screens at range by main caliber guns; - Semi-armor-piercing shells - a new type of shells, which has high damage and low armor penetration. Like armor-piercing shells, these new shells can't start the fire; - Near-shore concealment - ship ability, lowering her detection range near the shores. The ability is activated automatically if the ship is not moving or moves at low speed. These are early prototypes and their names, parameters and properties may change during testing. Please note that the information in the Development Blog is preliminary. *insert joke about gimmicks here* 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LADA] Gvozdika [LADA] Players 975 posts 10,423 battles Report post #14779 Posted June 11, 2019 Imagine it now... smoke for you, smoke for you, here have some more smoke over there, you need some smoke? Have some anyway! I'm not sure our overlords have a full appreciation of the chaos that might ensue. Why not just release it onto live for data gathering purposes? Spreadsheets say it'll probably be fine... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Historynerd Beta Tester 4,249 posts 848 battles Report post #14780 Posted June 11, 2019 If the SAP shells indicate future Italian ships, or modification to the Cesare and the Roma, I wouldn't protest. The former would be less devastating than it currently is (the copy-pasta Dunkerque HE helps making her too comfortable for her own good), and the latter would have a viable second shell, since nobody uses HE on her. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLITZ] WeGreedy Players 3,005 posts 15,006 battles Report post #14781 Posted June 11, 2019 @Historynerd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Historynerd Beta Tester 4,249 posts 848 battles Report post #14782 Posted June 11, 2019 1 hour ago, B0Tato said: @Historynerd Sorry. Tried to edit it, how is it now? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SparvieroVV Players 684 posts 73 battles Report post #14783 Posted June 11, 2019 1 hour ago, B0Tato said: @Historynerd Dark mode and visible sigs? Savage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #14784 Posted June 13, 2019 From Reddit Quote Yudachi 6500 doubloons Test status got lifted. Probably finalized. This is not officially confirmed but if it is true and Yudachi is finalized than this is a bad news for it. I don't think that a single CC liked it in the current state and some even considered it to be a c***. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Saltface Players 2,062 posts 18,464 battles Report post #14785 Posted June 13, 2019 On 6/11/2019 at 9:03 PM, Gvozdika said: Imagine it now... smoke for you, smoke for you, here have some more smoke over there, you need some smoke? uhmm what are they smoking? I 'd really like some. Such creativity. I would be helpful in my job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Comodoro_Allande Players 2,240 posts 8,469 battles Report post #14786 Posted June 13, 2019 Cita Previous changes to this battleship were intended to outline Slava's role as a ship for long-range combat having good firepower, but vulnerable when under focused. Lowered survivability impacted Slava's positioning in combat and moved it away from enemies. But the firepower of the ship was not enough and we decided to return some of the parameters to their previous values. Cita the firepower of the ship was not enough S L A V A B U F F L A V A B U F F 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Kartoffelmos Alpha Tester 2,237 posts 8,884 battles Report post #14787 Posted June 13, 2019 Yudachi, a ship which is commonly regarded as underwhelming, gets nerfed while Slava and Colbert, both ships which are regarded as very strong, get buffed. Either there has been an influx of dubious players amongst the ST which skews the statistical data or WG is being drunk silly again. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #14788 Posted June 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Kartoffelmos said: Yudachi, a ship which is commonly regarded as underwhelming, gets nerfed while Slava and Colbert, both ships which are regarded as very strong, get buffed. Either there has been an influx of dubious players amongst the ST which skews the statistical data or WG is being drunk silly again. #JustWGthings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #14789 Posted June 13, 2019 21 minutes ago, Kartoffelmos said: Either there has been an influx of dubious players amongst the ST which skews the statistical data or WG is being drunk silly again. I doubt ST had anything with this, seems like WG Dev Team just received new shipment of Vodka. This is probably the worst changes to ships since 0.8.0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #14790 Posted June 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Comodoro_Allande said: S L A V A B U F F L A V A B U F F Man they must use some hardcore drugs 6 minutes ago, fumtu said: I doubt ST had anything with this, seems like WG Dev Team just received new shipment of Vodka. This is probably the worst changes to ships since 0.8.0 Cant be any ordinary Vodka you and I can purchase in stores tho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Toivia Players 4,019 posts 23,935 battles Report post #14791 Posted June 13, 2019 Smolensk nerf is literaly the only half sensible part of the changes, and even then, AFT fixes it right back. Either somebody is having great fun at WG or they really lost it. Quote But the firepower of the ship was not enough Saying that about Slava is pure idiocy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #14792 Posted June 13, 2019 This is also funny. Quote The minimal speed when the engine boost is used is changed for all planes of IV - X tiers. With the S key pressed, aircraft will decelerate by 26.25 knots instead of 17.5. Japanese and Graf Zeppelin's aircraft, as well as the attack aircraft of all nations will decelerate by 30 knots instead of 20 upon pressing the S key. Because clearly Enterprise RFs weren't maneuverable enough yet. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #14793 Posted June 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, DFens_666 said: Cant be any ordinary Vodka you and I can purchase in stores tho This must be a really reeeeaaaallllly special batch to produce this kind of changes. Probably directly from Chernobyl Rector Number 4. This is f****** ridicules. There is not a single normal change among them, but buffs to Slava and Colbert and nerf to Yudachi are really priceless. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #14794 Posted June 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, fumtu said: I doubt ST had anything with this, seems like WG Dev Team just received new shipment of Vodka. This is probably the worst changes to ships since 0.8.0 I guess that "vodka" was distilled from diesel oil with pinch of gasoline for flavor Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mariouus Players 1,158 posts 14,792 battles Report post #14795 Posted June 13, 2019 47 minutes ago, Toivia said: Saying that about Slava is pure idiocy. Yes, saw it on monday. Its guns and firepower was extremly nasty. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PEZ] Yedwy Players 11,301 posts 39,586 battles Report post #14796 Posted June 14, 2019 Wait, if Slava is using same guns and shells as Soyuz (whitch sort of shoud be a given?) just with better long range dispersion IDK how this ship can be such an issue, soyuz guns are pretty crappy at a distance, and I dont mean hitting target part (i get that dispersion and all) i mean punching through armor part after you hit, ok you will punish cruisers but other bbs? I just get loads if shaters and bounces I rarely see with other bbs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #14797 Posted June 14, 2019 42 minutes ago, Yedwy said: Wait, if Slava is using same guns and shells as Soyuz (whitch sort of shoud be a given?) just with better long range dispersion IDK how this ship can be such an issue, soyuz guns are pretty crappy at a distance, and I dont mean hitting target part (i get that dispersion and all) i mean punching through armor part after you hit, ok you will punish cruisers but other bbs? I just get loads if shaters and bounces I rarely see with other bbs Well, Slava seems to use vodka flavored propellant, pushing these shells up to 870m/s compares to Soyuz 830m/s which might solve issues of lacking penetration Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #14798 Posted June 14, 2019 40 minutes ago, Yedwy said: Wait, if Slava is using same guns and shells as Soyuz (whitch sort of shoud be a given?) just with better long range dispersion IDK how this ship can be such an issue, soyuz guns are pretty crappy at a distance, and I dont mean hitting target part (i get that dispersion and all) i mean punching through armor part after you hit, ok you will punish cruisers but other bbs? I just get loads if shaters and bounces I rarely see with other bbs Not sure if you ever watched someone playing Slava, but she is really deadly both vs cruisers and BBs. The guns are similar to Soyuz in many ways but not the same. Soyuz muzzle velocity is 830m/s, Slava is 870m/s. Also Slava shells have less drag then Soyuz shells. There are some other small differences like alpha damage but shell mass and krupp are the same. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ALONE] Smeggo Modder 2,485 posts 15,343 battles Report post #14799 Posted June 14, 2019 Vor 1 Minute, fumtu sagte: Not sure if you ever watched someone playing Slava, but she is really deadly both vs cruisers and BBs. The guns are similar to Soyuz in many ways but not the same. Soyuz muzzle velocity is 830m/s, Slava is 870m/s. Also Slava shells have less drag then Soyuz shells. There are some other small differences like alpha damage but shell mass and krupp are the same. Indeed. Her magic-guns give her somehow better pen than the bigger guns of Yamato. Ironically these were historically italian guns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLITZ] WeGreedy Players 3,005 posts 15,006 battles Report post #14800 Posted June 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Yedwy said: Wait, if Slava is using same guns and shells as Soyuz (whitch sort of shoud be a given?) just with better long range dispersion IDK how this ship can be such an issue, soyuz guns are pretty crappy at a distance, and I dont mean hitting target part (i get that dispersion and all) i mean punching through armor part after you hit, ok you will punish cruisers but other bbs? I just get loads if shaters and bounces I rarely see with other bbs Sov. Soyuz Slava 406 mm/50 MK-1-406 406 mm/55 B-52 406 mm HE Model 1937 406 mm HE B-37 406 mm AP Model 1937 406 mm AP B-37 26 minutes ago, Panocek said: Well, Slava seems to use vodka flavored propellant, pushing these shells up to 870m/s compares to Soyuz 830m/s which might solve issues of lacking penetration 870 m/s seems to be the increased value which was considered after trials showed less barrel wear than excepted at 830 m/s. 18 minutes ago, Smeggo said: Indeed. Her magic-guns give her somehow better pen than the bigger guns of Yamato. Same applies to Republique until 18 km, Sov. Soyuz at 14 km and Kreml at 15 km and above. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
