[LEEUW] TheBrut3 [LEEUW] Players 493 posts 8,080 battles Report post #14701 Posted May 23, 2019 Just now, MyopicHedgehog said: In the new "CV meta"? DP guns + Bofors, AA build and DFAA should do something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WGP2W] LemonadeWarriorITA [WGP2W] Beta Tester 1,669 posts 8,186 battles Report post #14702 Posted May 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, MyopicHedgehog said: In the new "CV meta"? She has smoke, dfaa and hydro. She looks really capable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Tyrendian89 [TTTX] Players 4,608 posts 8,139 battles Report post #14703 Posted May 23, 2019 "only" something like three times the Gearing's AA strength on Friesland... topkek.jpg I am looking forward to this! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SINT] Jvd2000 Players 1,639 posts 31,167 battles Report post #14704 Posted May 23, 2019 14 minutes ago, TheBrut3 said: DP guns + Bofors, AA build and DFAA should do something. The Dutch DD Bofors 120 mm DP guns have a rate of fire of 40 / 42 rds a minute. But historical only one type of ammunition (HE only) So only 2 turrets but with a possible 1,5 sec reload it can be compared with ships with the double number of dual turrets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TTTX] Tyrendian89 [TTTX] Players 4,608 posts 8,139 battles Report post #14705 Posted May 23, 2019 Just now, Jvd2000 said: The Dutch DD Bofors 120 mm DP guns have a rate of fire of 40 / 42 rds a minute. But historical only one type of ammunition (HE only) So only 2 turrets but with a possible 1,5 sec reload it can be compared with ships with the double number of dual turrets. DPM right between Gearing and Harugumo in fact - and with 8% base fire chance... I'm just gonna repeat myself... topkek.jpg I am looking forward to this! https://medium.com/@devblogwows/st-new-ships-164cc63ad299 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Toivia Players 4,019 posts 23,935 battles Report post #14706 Posted May 23, 2019 So, Siegfried actually has cruiser dispersion and seemingly Graf Spee torps and launchers (8km quadruple). It also has a decent midrange AA, though ongrange is bad. That would look pretty decent, but the reload is at 26 seconds, so... Also it looks to be very high in the water and the plating only bounces 15 inch guns at best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #14707 Posted May 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Panocek said: Considering 380mm guns we have in game have more penetration than any other large cruiser guns including Stalinpleb AND at least some overmatch options... Stalingrad wants a word with you: https://mustanghx.github.io/ship_ap_calculator/ The "extra glide"™ "super teflon"™ shells from the future are just too much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LastButterfly Beta Tester 5,519 posts 2,939 battles Report post #14708 Posted May 23, 2019 53 minutes ago, Jvd2000 said: But historical only one type of ammunition (HE only) Yeah, but so did Akuzki's 100mm, so I wouldn't worry to much about that part. Also - what dyou want more ? One more main gun that fires at the same speed, and torpedoes aswell ? No way such an op DD would even exist in the first place right~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #14709 Posted May 23, 2019 2 hours ago, thiextar said: Apparently that german cruiser is getting 6x380mm guns with 26 seconds reload. At tier 9.... wtf does it fire? Depleted uranium? It will probably have the reload decreased to 20-22 secs after testing, otherwise it will not work. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #14710 Posted May 23, 2019 59 minutes ago, Tyrendian89 said: "only" something like three times the Gearing's AA strength on Friesland... topkek.jpg I am looking forward to this! I would buy that only to bully the CVs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #14711 Posted May 23, 2019 Are these cash, FreeXP or Coal ships? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MyopicHedgehog ∞ Players 645 posts 9,404 battles Report post #14712 Posted May 23, 2019 1 hour ago, TheBrut3 said: DP guns + Bofors, AA build and DFAA should do something. Fair enough - so how do you think it'll stack up against a T10 CV? That first strike is still getting through all that isn't it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #14713 Posted May 23, 2019 Just now, 1MajorKoenig said: Are these cash, FreeXP or Coal ships? Most tier 9 ( Azuma, Alaska, Kronshtadt, Jean Bart, Musashi, Missouri) were coal or free XP. However, 2 of them (Black and News) were steel. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #14714 Posted May 23, 2019 1 minute ago, 22cm said: Most tier 9 ( Azuma, Alaska, Kronshtadt, Jean Bart, Musashi, Missouri) were coal or free XP. However, 2 of them (Black and News) were steel. Yes. So WG didn’t indicate anything on the stream? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NED] piet11111 Players 2,225 posts 8,827 battles Report post #14715 Posted May 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said: Are these cash, FreeXP or Coal ships? Not yet known unfortunately but i really hope that they will be offered with at least 2 forms of payment so that even those without the free xp or coal hoard to pay for them can still have an alternative way of getting them. I would be pi**ed off beyond belief if Friesland is locked behind steel. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #14716 Posted May 23, 2019 1 minute ago, 1MajorKoenig said: Yes. So WG didn’t indicate anything on the stream? Nope. As expected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #14717 Posted May 23, 2019 54 minutes ago, 22cm said: I would buy that only to bully the CVs... Until you realize you only have 6 AA guns in extremely exposed positions, meaning after an attack or two your AA is gonna be dead. Also looks like a gigantic target to facilitate rocket saturation to me. AND no close range AA. Yeah, regardless of what they say this is not an AA ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #14718 Posted May 23, 2019 2 hours ago, piet11111 said: The germans also have a region known as east friesland so i can forgive this. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Frisia I dont know about the friesland it looks rather bulky and vulnerable (but seriously i want that ship ASAP i hope its free-xp and/or money) Sorry mate but you mixed ships. That ship is too modern. This is correct version Its guns might looks little strange, pointed upwards, but seems that this is done for better AA. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[X-10] ___V_E_N_O_M___ Players 2,129 posts 14,291 battles Report post #14719 Posted May 23, 2019 1 hour ago, 22cm said: It will probably have the reload decreased to 20-22 secs after testing, otherwise it will not work. Dont forget that 6th module mbrb will push the reload down to 23secs + CA accuracy + BB Calibre shells, makes for a very tasty schnitzel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NED] piet11111 Players 2,225 posts 8,827 battles Report post #14720 Posted May 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, fumtu said: Sorry mate but you mixed ships. That ship is too modern. This is correct version Its guns might looks little strange, pointed upwards, but seems that this is done for better AA. You are probably correct and i can see the additional lenght of the gun barrels would allow for a higher velocity for the shells though it does have a strange muzzle brake. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mariouus Players 1,158 posts 14,792 battles Report post #14721 Posted May 23, 2019 1 hour ago, fumtu said: Its guns might looks little strange, pointed upwards, but seems that this is done for better AA. SS Friesland in your picture is also somewhat wrong SS Friesland. This C3 class Cargo was mostly known as S.S. Abbekerk (was named Friesland for less than a year) Ship that was commonly known as Friesland was another C3 class cargo. Before being rebuild and named Friesland, it served in Royal Navy as D03 HMS Ranee 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FAILS] BruceRKF Players 1,077 posts 27,204 battles Report post #14722 Posted May 24, 2019 Friesland looks like it could be interesting, but I'm still not sure about a DD without torpedoes. Also, I would have prefered not to have even more post war ships. Most of the post-war ships we have in the game are at least based on late-war technology (i.e. their plans are from war times). Friesland however was designed after the war. At least she's pretty. So is the O-class battlecruiser (looks like a mixture between FdG and Gneisenau). We'll have to see about the performance, but the name is just wrong, imo. Are there no people from German history left to name the ship after? Alternatively maybe use something like Markgraf or Kronprinz, definitely better then Siegfried to my ears. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Historynerd Beta Tester 4,249 posts 848 battles Report post #14723 Posted May 24, 2019 Apart from everything else, I find it pretty dumb to just say something that has "Italian" in it, likely hoping to placate those who ask about the RM lines. Just... what's the point in saying "the first Italian line will be the cruiser one"? DUH! Spoiler https://giant.gfycat.com/BlondImperfectIrukandjijellyfish.webm Just keep silent and announce the cruisers when they're ready. Perhaps there's a flimsy chance we might glimpse them before the year's out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #14724 Posted May 24, 2019 13 hours ago, 22cm said: It will probably have the reload decreased to 20-22 secs after testing, otherwise it will not work. If they reduce reload, they will [edited]with the dispersion. They might do it anyway. 380mm guns with Cruiser dispersion WILL be OP imo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NIKE] Xevious_Red Beta Tester 3,412 posts 7,888 battles Report post #14725 Posted May 24, 2019 13 hours ago, 1MajorKoenig said: Yes. So WG didn’t indicate anything on the stream? They explicitly refused to say what they would be. There is a good chance they simply havent decided yet, and will depend on what else is on the release schedule (you dont release 2 steel ships back to back) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites