[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #14651 Posted May 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, invicta2012 said: Oh no. I've looked at it again. It's the Thunderer, isn't it? Everyone else has a Tier IX BB with 18 inch guns so the RN has to, as well. It's just as LittleWhiteMouse foretold: http://shipcomrade.com/?p=790 I suspect a TX split like RU BBs. "Thunderer" 457s, Conqueror 419s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LastButterfly Beta Tester 5,519 posts 2,939 battles Report post #14652 Posted May 21, 2019 38 minutes ago, fumtu said: It was long before RN get it first line of French theirs. It will come eventually. Yeah, sure, obviously, when WG runs out of idea. But the fact that "it will come" doesn't excuse the fact that it comes long after many things less relevant. Italy was the 5th largest fleet back then. Economically it pays to catter which playerbase pays the most, so obviously we can't blame WG on that. But regarding ships, the minimal respect for history and the very vessels that use to do their com ? That's disgusting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #14653 Posted May 21, 2019 3 minutes ago, LastButterfly said: Italy was the 5th largest fleet back then. Seems like fleet size is really important to you. 3 minutes ago, LastButterfly said: But regarding ships, the minimal respect for history and the very vessels that use to do their com ? That's disgusting. Of course because respect to history is what pay their bills in the end, right? And it is not like there isn't a single Italian ship already in the game. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COMFY] ImperialAdmiral [COMFY] Players 1,649 posts 9,828 battles Report post #14654 Posted May 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, fumtu said: Seems like fleet size is really important to you. ??? Yes ??? Because there were a lot of ships that took part in creating history? Took part in major battles and events. Things you can't say about a lot of ships we actually have in game now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #14655 Posted May 21, 2019 21 minutes ago, invicta2012 said: Oh no. I've looked at it again. It's the Thunderer, isn't it? Everyone else has a Tier IX BB with 18 inch guns so the RN has to, as well. It's just as LittleWhiteMouse foretold: http://shipcomrade.com/?p=790 Are there any RN BBs missing or is it really just a boring Fantasy Clone? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LastButterfly Beta Tester 5,519 posts 2,939 battles Report post #14656 Posted May 21, 2019 10 minutes ago, fumtu said: Of course because respect to history is what pay their bills in the end, right? 10 minutes ago, fumtu said: Seems like fleet size is really important to you. I wouldn't care if WG admittedly didn't care. But they do their whole advertising on the back of History without any remot respect for it. That's what pisses me off. The day they'll stop their false advertisement campaign and state, once and for all, that yes, they don't care, then I'll stop complaining. Because at least they'll be effing honest. And please - don't play me the old "WG is a small struggling enterprise with passionate devs". Back in 2012, they used to be the ones who made the most of their playerbase pay, with prices that are definitely not "small and affordable". No reason it changed, no sign it did either - after all why would they ? They make cash that way. Don't worry, they pay their bills alright. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #14657 Posted May 21, 2019 9 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said: Are there any RN BBs missing or is it really just a boring Fantasy Clone? Paper ship, but based on full designs. The only actual post WW1 RN BBs missing are the Revenge Class, and no-one wants those. To be honest (as a Brit) I'm not interested. If they'd come up with any of the RN premiums people want (Dido, Sheffield, Renown, Tiger, Kent, Cavalier, Hardy) it would be exciting, but there are so many similar Premium ships coming down the pipe already that this is just meh, even from the silhouette. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #14658 Posted May 21, 2019 13 minutes ago, LastButterfly said: I wouldn't care if WG admittedly didn't care. But they do their whole advertising on the back of History without any remot respect for it. That's what pisses me off. The day they'll stop their false advertisement campaign and state, once and for all, that yes, they don't care, then I'll stop complaining. Because at least they'll be effing honest. This is a just game, based of military ships from certain era. Not ww2 simulation or who had bigger fleet, peatier uniforms, did this or that. Quote And please - don't play me the old "WG is a small struggling enterprise with passionate devs". Back in 2012, they used to be the ones who made the most of their playerbase pay, with prices that are definitely not "small and affordable". No reason it changed, no sign it did either - after all why would they ? They make cash that way. Don't worry, they pay their bills alright. WG is not forcing you to pay anything ... at least not yet. It is still free to play game. I agree that their prices are quite high but if you give them the money for some ship or whatever is up to you. Don't blame them or that. In the end they are business. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #14659 Posted May 21, 2019 40 minutes ago, invicta2012 said: Revenge Class, and no-one wants those. I wouldn’t mind one. Find them more appeothan the Queen Anne’s Refit QEs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NUNC] cmdrBinford Players 3 posts 7,431 battles Report post #14660 Posted May 21, 2019 It probably is HNLMS Utrecht (D817). It's the only new build postwar DD that has had torpedo's in the Netherlands Navy for a couple of years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HNLMS_Utrecht_(D817) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #14661 Posted May 21, 2019 34 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said: I wouldn’t mind one. Find them more appeothan the Queen Anne’s Refit QEs For sentimental reasons, perhaps I might have one - my grandfather served on the Resolution and Ramilles - but overall they're just slow and inferior to the QEs and would struggle to find a role in the current game, especially as their AA was never modernised. I should explain my reservations about Thunderer (or Majestic, or Temeraire (please don't call her that, btw)) - it's just that if the 18 inch Conqueror build is so inferior to the 16 inch that no-one uses it, what are they going to do the 18 inch Tier X branch to make it anything other than a waste of XP? A Tier IX RN 18 inch ship for Free XP/Resources would be OK but do I want it over Georgia or Jean Bart? Probably not. So... why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NUNC] cmdrBinford Players 3 posts 7,431 battles Report post #14662 Posted May 21, 2019 6 hours ago, Comodoro_Allande said: Seems dutch. I'm trying to fit Holland and Friesland. Both are pretty close, but still not a perfect fit It could be HNLMS Utrecht (D817). It's a Friesland class destroyer and the only postwar build destroyer that has had a torpedo armament. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HNLMS_Utrecht_(D817) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SparvieroVV Players 684 posts 73 battles Report post #14663 Posted May 21, 2019 CIS complaints allowed RN battleships to appear first. I think many many fans were prepared to wait a long time for the Italian line, see WoT. However the way WG has let a whisper campaign blame The lack of an Italian tech tree on everybody but themselves is what I find objectionable. To each their own. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #14664 Posted May 21, 2019 14 minutes ago, cmdrBinford said: It could be HNLMS Utrecht (D817). It's a Friesland class destroyer and the only postwar build destroyer that has had a torpedo armament. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HNLMS_Utrecht_(D817) Seems like Overijssel also got torpedoes during same refit as Utrecht. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[EMPOR] Captn_Crap Beta Tester 364 posts 20,113 battles Report post #14665 Posted May 21, 2019 3 hours ago, invicta2012 said: There's something British which looks very cruiserish on the Dev blog.... You just got my hopes up only to crush them again :( I just want a British Cl premium Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NUNC] cmdrBinford Players 3 posts 7,431 battles Report post #14666 Posted May 21, 2019 28 minutes ago, fumtu said: Seems like Overijssel also got torpedoes during same refit as Utrecht. 29 minutes ago, fumtu said: Seems like Overijssel also got torpedoes during same refit as Utrecht. I don’t know that. Marineschepen.nl states that Utrecht got torpedo’s and Amsterdam got a test launcher. But it says nothing about torpedotubes on Overijssel. https://marineschepen.nl/schepen/onderzeebootjagers-friesland.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,855 battles Report post #14667 Posted May 21, 2019 26 minutes ago, Captn_Crap said: You just got my hopes up only to crush them again :( I just want a British Cl premium Sorry. I think we're all a bit disappointed on that score at the moment... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SparvieroVV Players 684 posts 73 battles Report post #14668 Posted May 21, 2019 1 hour ago, invicta2012 said: Sorry. I think we're all a bit disappointed on that score at the moment... He didn’t order two CVs and a battleship to go? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AP-] thiextar Players 3,503 posts 9,933 battles Report post #14669 Posted May 23, 2019 Apparently that german cruiser is getting 6x380mm guns with 26 seconds reload. At tier 9.... wtf does it fire? Depleted uranium? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #14670 Posted May 23, 2019 Friesland won't have torps at all and its guns would have 1.8sec reload. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #14671 Posted May 23, 2019 Ark Royal will be T6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LAFIE] lafeel Beta Tester 7,707 posts 7,856 battles Report post #14672 Posted May 23, 2019 8 minutes ago, fumtu said: Friesland won't have torps at all and its guns would have 1.8sec reload. She'll be a odd one for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WG] Makoniel WG Staff 2,824 posts 13,993 battles Report post #14673 Posted May 23, 2019 12 minutes ago, thiextar said: Apparently that german cruiser is getting 6x380mm guns with 26 seconds reload. At tier 9.... wtf does it fire? Depleted uranium? Werhaboos just wanted their high tier papership. They didn't know that the Kriegsmarine had nothing in the box to fill this role, even in design studies. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #14674 Posted May 23, 2019 Without telling anything about when it will be introduced or will it come after French DDs, it is confirmed first Italian line will be Italian Cruisers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #14675 Posted May 23, 2019 16 minutes ago, thiextar said: Apparently that german cruiser is getting 6x380mm guns with 26 seconds reload. At tier 9.... wtf does it fire? Depleted uranium? Considering 380mm guns we have in game have more penetration than any other large cruiser guns including Stalinpleb AND at least some overmatch options... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
