Discussion thread for "some interesting info around the world"

[Taliesn]

33 minutes ago, Toivia said:

Huh? 4 citadels is enough to devastate cruisers easily. You need just one shot. With pinpoint accuracy, you'll hit a bow on cruiser every time.

 

Anyway, if it gets a better armor than Alaska and Kron and has torps and secondaries on top, it's a perfect brawler. It's already quite fun brawling with Alaska. Remember that Gneisenau/Scharnhorst also only have 3 torps per side.

 

But this is all very hypothetical anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if this german cruiser eventually gets triple 280mm guns cause reasons, no torps and no armor. Only for WG to later unveil a full version with triple 380mm guns with torps and armor.

 

Even with good accuracy, 4 out of 4 citadels against a bow on ship is the definition of best case scenario. You are as likely if not more of not getting a single one, but I rather go with a more balanced approach. Secondaries on all cruisers are meh.

 

We will see, but in any case this ship will die by the quality of her guns unless they cram her with gimmicks (please no!)

[fumtu]

So next one is Ark Royal.

 

 

[HaachamaShipping]

2 minutes ago, Toivia said:

So far, every shell that overmatches has pretty bad dispersion. That's why you go bow in in those cruisers when you yolo torp charge them. You bet on their guns having a terrible dispersion and mission you entirely by showing them the smallest target profile.

But when you get overmatching guns that are actually cruiser accurate, you cannot do anything.

Apart from yolo torp rushes vs BBs in Zao being an absolute act of desperation that should not have any expectation of success anyway, I'd still angle slightly, because while it offers more target, most of the area is just my 30 mm side that cannot be overmatched and bounces shells, while anything that hits the bow is a normal pen, not a full on cit.

 

Also, Ark Royal coming. Dunno what to expect, given I'd like to say endless amount of Swordfishes, but GZ showed you cannot count on iconic aircraft. at least this clarifies the hint in the Bismarck song description, though I had hoped for Sheffield (to replace Belfast as high tier prem RN CL in the shop).

[invicta2012]

There's something British which looks very cruiserish on the Dev blog....

[Toivia]

2 minutes ago, Cagliostro_chan said:

Apart from yolo torp rushes vs BBs in Zao being an absolute act of desperation that should not have any expectation of success anyway, I'd still angle slightly, because while it offers more target, most of the area is just my 30 mm side that cannot be overmatched and bounces shells, while anything that hits the bow is a normal pen, not a full on cit.

 

Also, Ark Royal coming. Dunno what to expect, given I'd like to say endless amount of Swordfishes, but GZ showed you cannot count on iconic aircraft. at least this clarifies the hint in the Bismarck song description, though I had hoped for Sheffield (to replace Belfast as high tier prem RN CL in the shop).

I mean, that's why I am no longer playing random. I am tired of having to do desperation plays in every game. And when I played, it was only supercruisers, because those have reliable belts to bait shots on and good HP to survive bow pens and even the rare citadels.

[ImperialAdmiral]

All those ships and still no Italian tech tree.

[GarrusBrutus]

8 minutes ago, ImperialAdmiral said:

All those ships and still no Italian tech tree.

Maybe they're just getting incorporated into a pan-EU techtree.

ib4 reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[fumtu]

7 minutes ago, ImperialAdmiral said:

All those ships and still no Italian tech tree.

 

And why would announce Italian Tree now when they already announced French DDs as next line. And all these ships are premiums.

[cicciolorenz]

1 minute ago, fumtu said:

 

And why would announce Italian Tree now when they already announced French DDs as next line. And all these ships are premiums.

I would be happy with just a special captain in the armory

[ImperialAdmiral]

Just now, fumtu said:

 

And why would announce Italian Tree now when they already announced French DDs as next line. And all these ships are premiums.

 

Because people are waiting long enough for it and not exactly for more premiums/prize ships especially that there are still many that were not released.

[SparvieroVV]

50 minutes ago, invicta2012 said:

The thing is... There's a full line of actual Pan European DDs with Premiums and room for expansion. No paper ships, interesting designs. Ditto Pan American ones. If WG are having problems with Italian archives (and it looks like they are) then you can see why they've gone this route. But we want the RM too... 

How can you have a problem with a place you don’t visit? 

[LastButterfly]

3 minutes ago, fumtu said:

 

And why would announce Italian Tree now when they already announced French DDs as next line

 

I dunno, maybe cause France already has 2 branches IG while Italy has 0 ?

[fumtu]

8 minutes ago, ImperialAdmiral said:

Because people are waiting long enough for it and not exactly for more premiums/prize ships especially that there are still many that were not released.

 

Just like a lot of people waited for a first Dutch ship in the game or lot of people is waiting for Ark Royal or just like a lot of people are still waiting for first Greek ship, just like a lot of people is waiting ... insert whatever nation or ship you want here.

 

6 minutes ago, LastButterfly said:

I dunno, maybe cause France already has 2 branches IG while Italy has 0 ?

 

It was long before RN get it first line of French theirs. It will come eventually.

[Toivia]

They cannot announce an italian line simply because there are no italian lines coming.

[ImperialAdmiral]

5 minutes ago, fumtu said:

 

Just liek a lot of people waited for a first Dutch ship in the game or lot of people is waiting for Ark Royal or just like a lot of people are still waiting for first Greek ship, just like a lot of people is waiting ... insert whatever nation or ship you want here.

 

 

Yeah but Italian fleet was like one of the major participants of WWII. I don't want to argue here but one of the 5 biggest navies of WWII doesn't have a proper tech tree. And fleets like German and Soviet have full tech tree.

You see the difference.

[rnat]

11 minutes ago, LastButterfly said:

I dunno, maybe cause France already has 2 branches IG while Italy has 0 ?

The French had 1 CV during WW2, the Soviets had none so their tech-trees are pretty much complete and there aren't really any major naval powers of the period left.
So I'm pretty sure the RM cruisers are gonna be the next full line to be announced

[Panocek]

11 minutes ago, ImperialAdmiral said:

 

Because people are waiting long enough for it and not exactly for more premiums/prize ships especially that there are still many that were not released.

And what will provide WG more monies

pizza fleet you can get for free

or

fleet of prembotes

[fumtu]

11 minutes ago, ImperialAdmiral said:

Yeah but Italian fleet was like one of the major participants of WWII. I don't want to argue here but one of the 5 biggest navies of WWII doesn't have a proper tech tree. And fleets like German and Soviet have full tech tree.

You see the difference.

 

So what? So was RN so was French Navy. This is a game, WG is basing their releases on some model that should bring them more profit. What this or that Navy did in ww2 doesn't matter much. Italy already got four premium ships with fifth in testing phase. Dutch are just about to get their first ship. Look what Greek Navy did during the ww2 and yet they still didn't get a single ship.

 

I understand that you may be frustrated by the fact that Italian still don't have regular line  and I would understand you complains if they are announcing a next regular line after French DDs but complaining while WG is just announcing several premium ships? French DDs are already being tested while we are still waiting for a full Soviet BB line. Probably somewhere during some future French event WG will announce next line. Why not complain then if that next line is not Italian. Complaining now is pointless.

[ImperialAdmiral]

1 minute ago, fumtu said:

 

So what? So was RN so was French Navy. This is a game, WG is basing their releases on some model that should bring them more profit. What this or that Navy did in ww2 doesn't matter much. Italy already got four premium ships with fifth in testing phase. Dutch are just about to get their first ship. Look what Greek Navy did during the ww2 and yet they still didn't get a single ship.

 

I understand that you may be frustrated by the fact that Italian still don't have regular line  and I would understand you complains if they are announcing a next regular line after French DDs but complaining while WG is just announcing several premium ships? French DDs are already being tested while we are still waiting for a full Soviet BB line. Probably somewhere during some future French event WG will announce next line. Why not complain then if that next line is not Italian. Complaining now is pointless.

 

Actually you have to be vocal about it. RN fans were and they did get what they wanted long ago. Otherwise WG will again postpone it after Pan-something line.

[Exocet6951]

5 minutes ago, fumtu said:

Complaining now is pointless.

 

Won't stop me from doing it.

[cries in Zara]

[fumtu]

1 minute ago, ImperialAdmiral said:

Actually you have to be vocal about it. RN fans were and they did get what they wanted long ago. Otherwise WG will again postpone it after Pan-something line.

 

Do you really believe that WG released RN ships because people were vocal about it? Do you think that if some people didn't complain that WG would not release RN eventually? Sure

[cicciolorenz]

Just now, fumtu said:

 

Do you really believe that WG released RN ships because people were vocal about it? Do you think that if some people didn't complain that WG would not release RN eventually? Sure

I'm not sure but i read somewhere that because cis forum were so vocal for RN BBs that we got them before RU BBs

[invicta2012]

58 minutes ago, invicta2012 said:

There's something British which looks very cruiserish on the Dev blog....

Oh no. I've looked at it again. It's the Thunderer, isn't it? Everyone else has a Tier IX BB with 18 inch guns so the RN has to, as well. It's just as LittleWhiteMouse foretold: http://shipcomrade.com/?p=790

[ImperialAdmiral]

6 minutes ago, fumtu said:

 

Do you really believe that WG released RN ships because people were vocal about it? Do you think that if some people didn't complain that WG would not release RN eventually? Sure

 

But of course. There were countless almost spam threads on forums and reddit when the Royal navy is gonna to be released.

[fumtu]

Just now, cicciolorenz said:

I'm not sure but i read somewhere that because cis forum were so vocal for RN BBs that we got them before RU BBs

 

Sure, just like I read that cis forum was so vocal about CV rework that WG decided to remove CVs from game.