Discussion thread for "some interesting info around the world"

[LastButterfly]

11 minutes ago, fumtu said:

 

Despite everything, CV and all other BS, Shima is still by far the most popular T10 DD. Whatever WG do, there is a good chance that premium Shima will be too.

 

Yeah, no, I was talking about what to do with her so sje's not an absolute clone. Shima' defining features are her torpedo tubes, but I don't see WG restoring old 2015 ijn torps so... What, deep water torps shima ? BBs will like that xD

[fumtu]

1 minute ago, LastButterfly said:

Yeah, no, I was talking about what to do with her so sje's not an absolute clone. Shima' defining features are her torpedo tubes, but I don't see WG restoring old 2015 ijn torps so... What, deep water torps shima ? BBs will like that xD

 

We will have to wait for that info. Now we can just guess.

[Sigimundus]

16 hours ago, Jvd2000 said:

Dutch project1047.

 

Not a battlecruiser but a real cruiser killer so we can make the lives of cruisers even worse 😁 

 

But change the flag...although the austrian hungarian bb was labelled german too...

 

15 hours ago, ColonelPete said:

Take another look:

I do not see a resemblance.

 

 

Theoretically can not be it some variation of Scharnhorst?

Because variant of Scharnhorst with lighter armor but slightly faster is great t9 supercruser with 3*3 280mm guns very similar  similar to Kronstad and Alasca.

 

[Aotearas]

Who knows, maybe we'll get a 4x3 150mm Hipper variant.

[ColonelPete]

13 minutes ago, Sigimundus said:

 

Theoretically can not be it some variation of Scharnhorst?

Because variant of Scharnhorst with lighter armor but slightly faster is great t9 supercruser with 3*3 280mm guns very similar  similar to Kronstad and Alasca.

 

There was no planned variant.

That would be pure fantasy.

And would it be highly probable that such a ship stayed a BB.

[Sigimundus]

4 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

There was no planned variant.

That would be pure fantasy.

And would it be highly probable that such a ship stayed a BB.

OK and is there any other variant of guns for o-class?  Because I think cruiser with 380 guns will not work in Wows.

Krosntad was planed with two variants ( 3×3 305 mm or 3x2 380mm).

[ColonelPete]

2 minutes ago, Sigimundus said:

OK and is there any other variant of guns for o-class?  Because I think cruiser with 380 guns will not work in Wows.

Krosntad was planed with two variants ( 3×3 305 mm or 3x2 380mm).

Not that I know of.

But why should it not work?

[Mr_Tayto]

26 minutes ago, Aotearas said:

Who knows, maybe we'll get a 4x3 150mm Hipper variant.

I would like this, at least far more than another supercruiser.

[DFens_666]

6 minutes ago, Fat_Maniac said:

Maybe Conqueror / Thunderer split because of gun caliber. Same as Kreml / Slava split.

[JaiFoh]

7 minutes ago, DFens_666 said:

 

 

Maybe Conqueror / Thunderer split because of gun caliber. Same as Kreml / Slava split.

I think you are Right


When can we have our Mino premium called HMS Thunderchild?

[Comodoro_Allande]

I'm hyped to see which of all those high tier ships are premiums and which ones are tech tree splits (this Conqueror seems like that)

Because no way all this tier IX-X ships are going to be premium, that's for sure

[josykay]

I would have guessed, a modified, modernized, L2 Design, which however is pretty similiar to LWMs Thunderer, but you would avoid  the lazy clone label.

[Sigimundus]

35 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Not that I know of.

But why should it not work?

Small number of barrels to hunt enemy CA/CL. Also the caliber is unnecessary big to hunt CA/CL but still to low to deal good damage to BB.

And with this big caliber it will get long reload for the CA.

[ColonelPete]

7 minutes ago, Sigimundus said:

Small number of barrels to hunt enemy CA/CL. Also the caliber is unnecessary big to hunt CA/CL but still to low to deal good damage to BB.

And with this big caliber it will get long reload for the CA.

• Small gun number can get compensated by accuracy
• bigger guns give more alpha and help with penetration of angled targets and give slight overmatching advantages
• the ship is not supposed to do BB sized damage

[DFens_666]

13 minutes ago, Sigimundus said:

And with this big caliber it will get long reload for the CA.

 

... while having Cruiser armor. Which is imo something which will not work properly. BB gun reload with Cruiser armor would mean, the Dispersion would need to be really awesome, especially if you have few barrels to begin with. And i cant see WG going down that route.

[Taliesn]

5 minutes ago, Sigimundus said:

Small number of barrels to hunt enemy CA/CL. Also the caliber is unnecessary big to hunt CA/CL but still to low to deal good damage to BB.

And with this big caliber it will get long reload for the CA.

 

Not necessarily. Reload times are a bit all over the shop as it is, Des Moines has half the base reload time of Hindenburg for example with same caliber guns (203mm) Baltimore's (Mk15 against DM's Mk16) has 10 sec reload compared to DM's 5,5

 

Give her cruiser sigma and either a slightly better reload compared to Alaska/Azuma/Kron/Yoshino or improved AP angles and I won't mind the 6 versus 9 guns in the slightest.

6x53.3cm yolo torps and Repair, Hydro, DefAA and Spotter Plane in different slots.

 

And Bob's your uncle.

[ColonelPete]

As said before. The design had 50mm DECK plating. That would result in high HE resistance.

 

@Taliesn

DM had automatic loading...

[DFens_666]

6 minutes ago, Taliesn said:

Give her cruiser sigma and either a slightly better reload compared to Alaska/Azuma/Kron/Yoshino or improved AP angles and I won't mind the 6 versus 9 guns in the slightest.

 

Totaly OP

That would be a Bismarck on steroids...

[Sigimundus]

1 minute ago, ColonelPete said:

• Small gun number can get compensated by accuracy
• bigger guns give more alpha and help with penetration of angled targets and give slight overmatching advantages
• the ship is not supposed to do BB sized damage

You mean Gnaisenau accuracy?

Yes the caliber has cons in overmatching 25mm armor but still you have 4 barrels to use because you do not want to show broadside.

Also it will need hell of accuracy to have relatively reasonable damage output even with big alfa.

[Taliesn]

12 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

As said before. The design had 50mm DECK plating. That would result in high HE resistance.

 

@Taliesn

DM had automatic loading...

 

Yeah, but still, how accurate are reload times when comparing ships with similar calibre guns? Atago and Zao also have 203mm guns. There is a lot of room there to play with.

 

8 minutes ago, DFens_666 said:

 

Totaly OP

That would be a Bismarck on steroids...

 

With 6 guns? In tier X? I highly doubt it, and even if it were, it would be only because it is rewarding good aim. Dodgy aim and/or a bit of RNGesus and you're done.

 

A Bismark on steroids in tier X is fine.

Hindenburg is a Hipper on steroids two tiers up. Most ships that share same calibre guns are. More number of guns, more hp, you get the picture. 

[ColonelPete]

5 minutes ago, Sigimundus said:

You mean Gnaisenau accuracy?

No. As said multiple times....

[DFens_666]

8 minutes ago, Taliesn said:

With 6 guns? In tier X? I highly doubt it, and even if it were, it would be only because it is rewarding good aim. Dodgy aim and/or a bit of RNGesus and you're done.

 

A Bismark on steroids in tier X is fine.

Hindenburg is a Hipper on steroids two tiers up. Most ships that share same calibre guns are. More number of guns, more hp, you get the picture. 

 

People are constanly crying, how OP Stalingrad is. And most of the time, its only using his front guns (that would be 6 too). So having a Cruiser with bigger guns, better reload AND better dispersion would be truely OP.

6 Guns doesnt matter - what matters is, how often you can make them count. And 380mm guns also bring a considerable increase in penetration with them. You could wreck Cruisers literally from any angle (except US/German CAs) and citadel lots of BBs reliably aswell.

[fumtu]

WG is really flooding high tiers with premium ships. Seems like majority of newly announcement ships and ships in active testing are T9 and T10.

[SparvieroVV]

1 hour ago, josykay said:

I would have guessed, a modified, modernized, L2 Design, which however is pretty similiar to LWMs Thunderer, but you would avoid  the lazy clone label.

Monarch says hello?

55 minutes ago, fumtu said:

WG is really flooding high tiers with premium ships. Seems like majority of newly announcement ships and ships in active testing are T9 and T10.

They don’t seem concerned about fatigue from hyper consumption types who gotta get’em all. I guess the gains from people converting XP and initial sales gains offset all else?

[FooFaFie]

Personally still waiting for the first new PAN-EU ship. 

 

Not that interested in a next UK/German/JPN ship.

 

So what's the delay?