SparvieroVV Players 684 posts 73 battles Report post #14526 Posted May 20, 2019 Will WG conveniently discover a 38cm design with better AP and HE shells to pair with this ship? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Toivia Players 4,019 posts 23,935 battles Report post #14527 Posted May 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Saiyko said: Can you, or someone else, explain me what the hell is supposed to be attractive about those ships? Imho they enhance even more static gameplay (look at me mom I'm reversing bow-on like a pro) and combine the worst of 2 worlds: can't overmatch cruisers like bbs, can't tank like bbs, don't have the stealth/dps like cruisers. Once again one of those ships if I were to get it for free I might sell them for credits, if not out of fear that I would get the exact same ship later. Personally, I love the look of those ships. Most BBs look fat to me (not all, but a great deal of them) while cruisers are too small/skinny/truncated/etc. But yeah, gameplay wise, they ruin other cruisers. Why would you play a normal cruiser when a supercruiser is more resilient (except Azuma) and can delete other cruisers (some can even delete BBs). Supercruisers may not have the DPM, but their stealth and manoeuvrability are still pretty good even for cruisers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Toivia Players 4,019 posts 23,935 battles Report post #14528 Posted May 20, 2019 1 minute ago, thiextar said: Honestly, if three factions already have super cruisers, i dont mind all the major factions having one each. You mean 2 each, right? Cause that's where we're headed (at least). IJN and Soviets already got 2 and there has been talk of a super Alaska for T10 with a 4th turret (though nothing official yet, afaik). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #14529 Posted May 20, 2019 Just now, SparvieroVV said: Will WG conveniently discover a 38cm design with better AP and HE shells to pair with this ship? No need. They just upgrade the accuracy, maybe lower the reload or give her reload booster and see the cruiser sink. Her AP penetration is only 5 to 7% worse than Bourgogne. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SparvieroVV Players 684 posts 73 battles Report post #14530 Posted May 20, 2019 42 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: No need. They just upgrade the accuracy, maybe lower the reload or give her reload booster and see the cruiser sink. Her AP penetration is only 5 to 7% worse than Bourgogne. I'm honestly surprised Lesta didn't borrow the Italian clip loader code from WoT yet. Makes more sense than MBR. Although I guess, as an example, a French DD having a 5 to 24 shot ready rack might make the UI for it look silly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taliesn Players 2,238 posts 16,405 battles Report post #14531 Posted May 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Toivia said: Personally, I love the look of those ships. Most BBs look fat to me (not all, but a great deal of them) while cruisers are too small/skinny/truncated/etc. But yeah, gameplay wise, they ruin other cruisers. Why would you play a normal cruiser when a supercruiser is more resilient (except Azuma) and can delete other cruisers (some can even delete BBs). Supercruisers may not have the DPM, but their stealth and manoeuvrability are still pretty good even for cruisers. With their RoF I'd say that depends on the ships involved and under certain conditions. So far I enjoy a lot more playing Hinden/Moskva/Zao than Kron or Alaska. I don't own Azuma and I will not be buying her (nor Yoshino for that matter) I will get the class-O BC though, because per force it will need to offer a very different playstyle with only 6 guns, even if it ends up in tier IX. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #14532 Posted May 20, 2019 2 hours ago, DFens_666 said: Must milk ze germans, overall they do represent a large playerbase on the EU server I wonder that they didnt do it earlier [insert whatever Siema DD would fit at tier 9] when? After all, Polish playerbase is a thing as well 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Leo_Apollo11 Quality Poster 7,146 posts 31,562 battles Report post #14533 Posted May 20, 2019 Hi all, OK... now we have a IJN DD tease as well... Leo "Apollo11" 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #14534 Posted May 20, 2019 6 minutes ago, Leo_Apollo11 said: Hi all, OK... now we have a IJN DD tease as well... Leo "Apollo11" Those are not 100mm gun turrets we have on Aki, Kaita and Haru but standard 127mm guns. If this is T10 I would guess it is Super Shimakaze. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FishDogFoodShack Players 685 posts 5,858 battles Report post #14535 Posted May 20, 2019 Just now, fumtu said: Those are not 100mm gun turrets we have on Aki, Kaita and Haru but standard 127mm guns. If this is T10 I would guess it is Super Shimakaze. No reason to assume it'll be T10, probably just another trashy yugumo tech tree clone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XODUS] JaiFoh Players 799 posts 4,868 battles Report post #14536 Posted May 20, 2019 That is the Shima's hull form to me once you fiddle with the contrast https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/433248774857424907/580033970545229854/unknown.png so either super Shima or an updated Shima Model 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #14537 Posted May 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, FishDogFoodShack said: No reason to assume it'll be T10, probably just another trashy yugumo tech tree clone. Kagero with 12km Shima/Zao/Yoshi torps. Here, ez T9 Freemium Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #14538 Posted May 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, FishDogFoodShack said: No reason to assume it'll be T10, probably just another trashy yugumo tech tree clone. There only one Yugumo but three Kagero Class destroyers in the game. Anyway this is not another Yugumo/Kagero clone If you see aft supefiring gun, torpedo tubes are immediately behind it which means no spare torps behind aft torpedo tubes which you can find on other IJN DDs. Shimakaze on the other side also didn't have reserve torps Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CBS] Allied_Winter Players 6,242 posts 10,755 battles Report post #14539 Posted May 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, fumtu said: Shimakaze on the other side also didn't have reserve torps I'll put my money on: T9 Shimakaze with TRB and DWT. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #14540 Posted May 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Allied_Winter said: I'll put my money on: T9 Shimakaze with TRB and DWT. I doubt it will have TRB as WG already tested Shima with TRB and it was stupid. What they could do is give it 3x6 launchers, same we have on Haragumo and Kitakaze instead. And maybe only F3 torps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XODUS] JaiFoh Players 799 posts 4,868 battles Report post #14541 Posted May 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, fumtu said: I doubt it will have TRB as WG already tested Shima with TRB and it was stupid. What they could do is give it 3x6 launchers, same we have on Haragumo and Kitakaze instead. And maybe only F3 torps. all together now Tenno'heika BANZAI!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FishDogFoodShack Players 685 posts 5,858 battles Report post #14542 Posted May 20, 2019 20 minutes ago, fumtu said: There only one Yugumo but three Kagero Class destroyers in the game. Anyway this is not another Yugumo/Kagero clone If you see aft supefiring gun, torpedo tubes are immediately behind it which means no spare torps behind aft torpedo tubes which you can find on other IJN DDs. Shimakaze on the other side also didn't have reserve torps Yugumo, Kagero, same thing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SINT] Jvd2000 Players 1,639 posts 31,167 battles Report post #14543 Posted May 20, 2019 4 hours ago, Leo_Apollo11 said: Hi all, Leo "Apollo11" Dutch project1047. Not a battlecruiser but a real cruiser killer so we can make the lives of cruisers even worse 😁 But change the flag...although the austrian hungarian bb was labelled german too... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #14544 Posted May 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Jvd2000 said: Dutch project1047. Take another look: I do not see a resemblance. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SINT] Jvd2000 Players 1,639 posts 31,167 battles Report post #14545 Posted May 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: Take another look: I do not see a resemblance. Correct, the mast in the back gives it away..Too bad since the 1047 would be a better ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #14546 Posted May 20, 2019 1 hour ago, Jvd2000 said: Not a battlecruiser but a real cruiser killer And what do you think that it is a battlecruiser role? Also Project 1047 was a battlecruiser. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LastButterfly Beta Tester 5,519 posts 2,939 battles Report post #14547 Posted May 21, 2019 15 hours ago, fumtu said: If you see aft supefiring gun, torpedo tubes are immediately behind it which means no spare torps behind aft torpedo tubes which you can find on other IJN DDs. Shimakaze on the other side also didn't have reserve torps You can find torpedo tubes immediately behind the X gun turret on the Fubuki super-class aswell. Turrets are not consistent with Type A but it could be an Ayanami or Akatsuki class too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #14548 Posted May 21, 2019 16 minutes ago, LastButterfly said: You can find torpedo tubes immediately behind the X gun turret on the Fubuki super-class aswell. That is true. 16 minutes ago, LastButterfly said: Turrets are not consistent with Type A but it could be an Ayanami or Akatsuki class too. If you look at the bridge contours it resembles a Shimakaze bridge outline not Fubuki class. Also all four sisters of Akatsuki sub-class had B Type turrets just like some of Ayanami sisters. I know that many would like T8 Premium Fubuki but I doubt this is the one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LastButterfly Beta Tester 5,519 posts 2,939 battles Report post #14549 Posted May 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, fumtu said: If you look at the bridge contours it resembles a Shimakaze bridge outline not Fubuki class. Also all four sisters of Akatsuki sub-class had B Type turrets just like some of Ayanami sisters. I know that many would like T8 Premium Fubuki but I doubt this is the one. That's correct, I just wanted to point out a project V6 isn't set in stone. With Wargaming's usual approximation, it could aswell be anything alike. Only the funnels would allow us to say for sure at this point. But V6 remains the most likely. Either way. Wait&see it is. I'm curious what the eff they intend to do with a V6 considering how shimakaze in the game now. The german thing is most definitely in the line of an O class. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #14550 Posted May 21, 2019 1 minute ago, LastButterfly said: I'm curious what the eff they intend to do with a V6 considering how shimakaze in the game now. Despite everything, CV and all other BS, Shima is still by far the most popular T10 DD. Whatever WG do, there is a good chance that premium Shima will be too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites