[T-N-T] Toivia Players 4,019 posts 23,935 battles Report post #14501 Posted May 16, 2019 That is a surprisingly sensible post from S_O. That said, I'm not quite sure Slava is any more glass cannony then say République if you remain angled. Both are 32mm plated ships that will eat pens from HE and Yamato/Musashi. Sure, if you sail broadside, Slava is far more ikely to get citadelled, but hey, bad play needs to be punished. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #14502 Posted May 20, 2019 The new mystery german cruiser from the dev blog looks very much like O-class. Could be the next Tier IX/X supercruiser. But this time with 6x380mm. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #14503 Posted May 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: But this time with 6x380mm. I wonder if they will really do that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #14504 Posted May 20, 2019 1 minute ago, DFens_666 said: I wonder if they will really do that I think that supercruisers are not good for the game. Towards normal cruiser they behave like BB, but do not fall under the MM BB limit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NKK2] FrankvC_Jr Players 1,178 posts 7,859 battles Report post #14505 Posted May 20, 2019 Yeah I saw it too. Its funny because I was working in a Panzershiffe tree proposal and then this appeared out of nowhere. Same as when I and some friends were making Imperial German BCs and Eitel Friederich showed up. 2 things I dont like: -Tier 9 or 10 will make it coal or steel aka more grind. Hoped for more mid tier like Nelson -It will have troubles facing the russian botes and probably american Alaska because reasons like barrel count and such. Hope to see it end well and not a Eitel Friederich fail. 4 minutos antes, ColonelPete dijo: I think that supercruisers are not good for the game. Towards normal cruiser they behave like BB, but do not fall under the MM BB limit. If they added proper BC class for Hood, Kongo, Eitel.....it could work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #14506 Posted May 20, 2019 7 minutes ago, FrankvC_Jr said: Yeah I saw it too. Its funny because I was working in a Panzershiffe tree proposal and then this appeared out of nowhere. Same as when I and some friends were making Imperial German BCs and Eitel Friederich showed up. 2 things I dont like: -Tier 9 or 10 will make it coal or steel aka more grind. Hoped for more mid tier like Nelson -It will have troubles facing the russian botes and probably american Alaska because reasons like barrel count and such. Hope to see it end well and not a Eitel Friederich fail. If they added proper BC class for Hood, Kongo, Eitel.....it could work. We do not need a BC class Yes, they would work as middle Tier BB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #14507 Posted May 20, 2019 Because clearly we need ANOTHER "super cruiser". It's not like we already have half a dozen or so. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #14508 Posted May 20, 2019 8 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: Because clearly we need ANOTHER "super cruiser". It's not like we already have half a dozen or so. Must milk ze germans, overall they do represent a large playerbase on the EU server I wonder that they didnt do it earlier Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Leo_Apollo11 Quality Poster 7,146 posts 31,562 battles Report post #14509 Posted May 20, 2019 Hi all, 58 minutes ago, ColonelPete said: The new mystery german cruiser from the dev blog looks very much like O-class. Could be the next Tier IX/X supercruiser. But this time with 6x380mm. Leo "Apollo11" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCUMM] herrjott [SCUMM] Players 943 posts 22,067 battles Report post #14510 Posted May 20, 2019 Why would anyone want to play a Gneisenau with nerfed armor in T10 battles? This thing basically needs Slava/Pobeda dispersion to not be plain frustrating. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #14511 Posted May 20, 2019 22 minutes ago, Leo_Apollo11 said: Hi all, Leo "Apollo11" Faq yea! it‘s Happening Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-SBG-] ColonelPete Players 38,559 posts 19,178 battles Report post #14512 Posted May 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, herrjott said: Why would anyone want to play a Gneisenau with nerfed armor in T10 battles? This thing basically needs Slava/Pobeda dispersion to not be plain frustrating. When she gets her 50mm deck plating, cruiser class and high accuracy, she might do well... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #14513 Posted May 20, 2019 WG usually release German Premium during Gamescom. I expect that this one will arrive about that time. Yup It seems like O Class Battlecruiser. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #14514 Posted May 20, 2019 1 hour ago, El2aZeR said: Because clearly we need ANOTHER "super cruiser". It's not like we already have half a dozen or so. Haha why would we need another ship? We already have one in the game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #14515 Posted May 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said: Haha why would we need another ship? We already have one in the game? Let me guess, you're German? On a more serious note, if you haven't noticed WG is going full on super cruisers lately. And while I suppose that is to be expected considering what this playerbase likes to play, it doesn't make it any less ed especially considering the current state of the game. Then again I suppose I shouldn't care and just be happy I get another pseudo-BB for my waifu to farm. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HU-SD] Prospect_b Players 2,655 posts 14,214 battles Report post #14516 Posted May 20, 2019 On 5/16/2019 at 4:41 PM, Toivia said: That said, I'm not quite sure Slava is any more glass cannony then say République if you remain angled. Both are 32mm plated ships that will eat pens from HE and Yamato/Musashi. Sure, if you sail broadside, Slava is far more ikely to get citadelled, but hey, bad play needs to be punished. I've been "testing" Slava extensively (cause she is God's gift to mankind), and there is nothing glass about her. Both as part of testing and as "why would I even care cause I'm masterrace" I've been giving a lot of broadside regularly. Punishment lmao. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Toivia Players 4,019 posts 23,935 battles Report post #14517 Posted May 20, 2019 Of course, we gotta get more supercruisers, 5 ain't enough. Oh well, at least Germany gets a T9 premium at long last... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #14518 Posted May 20, 2019 1 minute ago, El2aZeR said: Let me guess, you're German? On a more serious note, if you haven't noticed WG is going full on super cruisers lately. And while I suppose that is to be expected considering what this playerbase likes to play, it doesn't make it any less ed especially considering the current state of the game. Then again I suppose I shouldn't care and just be happy I get another pseudo-BB for my waifu to farm. For your Big E it doesn’t matter dude - correct. I mean the moment they released Kronstadt we knew B-65, O-Class and Alaska would follow. I am pretty sure these are commercially extremely successful. They even sold Alaska for cash - was it 60€? Not bad And sure - they MAY be a little strong but if they are really a game breaker at this stage I don’t know. At least these monstercruisers are very popular and I was pretty sure they would announce a nice German ship for Gamescom. You know what? I have a splendid idea: let’s release it unplayable and half finished and clean it up later (producing a another little monster) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Toivia Players 4,019 posts 23,935 battles Report post #14519 Posted May 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, Saiyko said: I've been "testing" Slava extensively (cause she is God's gift to mankind), and there is nothing glass about her. Both as part of testing and as "why would I even care cause I'm masterrace" I've been giving a lot of broadside regularly. Punishment lmao. Ah yes? So perfectly balanced then, comrade, is it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HU-SD] Prospect_b Players 2,655 posts 14,214 battles Report post #14520 Posted May 20, 2019 1 minute ago, 1MajorKoenig said: For your Big E it doesn’t matter dude - correct. I mean the moment they released Kronstadt we knew B-65, O-Class and Alaska would follow. I am pretty sure these are commercially extremely successful. They even sold Alaska for cash - was it 60€? Not bad And sure - they MAY be a little strong but if they are really a game breaker at this stage I don’t know. At least these monstercruisers are very popular and I was pretty sure they would announce a nice German ship for Gamescom. You know what? I have a splendid idea: let’s release it unplayable and half finished and clean it up later (producing a another little monster) Can you, or someone else, explain me what the hell is supposed to be attractive about those ships? Imho they enhance even more static gameplay (look at me mom I'm reversing bow-on like a pro) and combine the worst of 2 worlds: can't overmatch cruisers like bbs, can't tank like bbs, don't have the stealth/dps like cruisers. Once again one of those ships if I were to get it for free I might sell them for credits, if not out of fear that I would get the exact same ship later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HU-SD] Prospect_b Players 2,655 posts 14,214 battles Report post #14521 Posted May 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Toivia said: Ah yes? So perfectly balanced then, comrade, is it? Yamato is a billion times more glass cannon than she is. Too bad @El2aZeR doesn't have his top view from RTS days of yore anymore for confirmation, but I'm sure he has heard me say "Ah I'm giving to much broadside to X here" a lot by now and saw exactly nothing when he looked at me later on. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #14522 Posted May 20, 2019 1 minute ago, 1MajorKoenig said: You know what? I have a splendid idea: let’s release it unplayable and half finished and clean it up later (producing a another little monster) Ah yes, WG and their (in-)famous Gamescom release deadlines. I see no incoming issues whatsoever. Really though, my problem isn't necessarily their strength but that they basically add more BBs to a match in cruiser slots. Aside from the money making aspect I see little reason why at least some of these can't be added as mid-high tier BBs. Then again the money making aspect seems to overrule everything nowadays. 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #14523 Posted May 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Saiyko said: Can you, or someone else, explain me what the hell is supposed to be attractive about those ships? Imho they enhance even more static gameplay (look at me mom I'm reversing bow-on like a pro) and combine the worst of 2 worlds: can't overmatch cruisers like bbs, can't tank like bbs, don't have the stealth/dps like cruisers. Once again one of those ships if I were to get it for free I might sell them for credits, if not out of fear that I would get the exact same ship later. I like crossovers between classes in WOWS mostly. In the case of the super cruisers you may have the worst from both worlds but the combination is fun. High alpha always feels more rewarding to be than the famous death-by-a-thousand-cuts. But you are still more a cruiser with more movement and risk than the heavy bulky battle wagons which tend to be a bit boring at higher tiers to me at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HU-SD] Prospect_b Players 2,655 posts 14,214 battles Report post #14524 Posted May 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: Ah yes, WG and their (in-)famous Gamescom release deadlines. I see no incoming issues whatsoever. I hear that if it fails, we can always ask help from the community in the balancing department. So no worries indeed comrade. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AP-] thiextar Players 3,503 posts 9,933 battles Report post #14525 Posted May 20, 2019 Honestly, if three factions already have super cruisers, i dont mind all the major factions having one each. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites