Discussion thread for "some interesting info around the world"

[Panocek]

51 minutes ago, DFens_666 said:

 

Ontop of being yet ANOTHER T9 premium BB id like to add...

How many do we need anyway? Will get we a German T9 Premium BB for steel at some point? Clealy we need another one Might be nice to look at them tho

There is never enough battleships for World of Battleships.

[Toivia]

Meanwhile, number of (even past) available T9 or 10 FreeXP DDs: 0. Number of (even past) available T9/10 coal DDs: 0.

Actual cruisers aren't faring much better if you exclude the large cruisers or so called supercruisers. Afaik only Salem would count as one coal offering.

The large variety has had 3 FreeXP offerings and one steel, while a coal one is coming shortly (Yoshino).

I'm not even gonna enumerate the BBs...

[GulvkluderGuld]

4 hours ago, Toivia said:

Meanwhile, number of (even past) available T9 or 10 FreeXP DDs: 0. Number of (even past) available T9/10 coal DDs: 0.

Actual cruisers aren't faring much better if you exclude the large cruisers or so called supercruisers. Afaik only Salem would count as one coal offering.

The large variety has had 3 FreeXP offerings and one steel, while a coal one is coming shortly (Yoshino).

I'm not even gonna enumerate the BBs...

Clearly the only class not represented here for freeXp/coal/steel is: CV 

[invicta2012]

5 hours ago, Toivia said:

Meanwhile, number of (even past) available T9 or 10 FreeXP DDs: 0. Number of (even past) available T9/10 coal DDs: 0.

Somers? They haven't said how she'll be attainable but I can't see it being steel. 

[Toivia]

5 hours ago, invicta2012 said:

Somers? They haven't said how she'll be attainable but I can't see it being steel. 

I'm hoping Benham will be reachable by normal players myself (FreeXP or at least coal).

 

EDIT: Seeing as how US still has Black for Steel, it would make sense for Benham to be FreeXP and Somers Coal (no T10 FreeXP ship yet). Not that things making sense have stopped WG turning things on its head before.

[Aotearas]

27 minutes ago, Toivia said:

I'm hoping Benham will be reachable by normal players myself (FreeXP or at least coal).

Isn't the Benham the tier IX one with the 3x4 Gearing 16,5km torps?

 

Smells like steel to me with that kind of torpedo armament alone.

[Toivia]

3 minutes ago, Aotearas said:

Isn't the Benham the tier IX one with the 3x4 Gearing 16,5km torps?

 

Smells like steel to me with that kind of torpedo armament alone.

Don't kill all the hope!  As if there were not enough Steel DDs already...

 

*Btw Benham is 4x4 Benson torps, 9.2km range. Somers has 12 Gearing torps and 8 guns.

[Aotearas]

1 minute ago, Toivia said:

*Btw Benham is 4x4 Benson torps, 9.2km range. Somers has 12 Gearing torps and 8 guns.

Right, mixed them up then.

 

With 4x4 wingmounted Benson torps it's not screaming steel ship like the Somers does. So yeah, hope still living.

[fumtu]

S_O announced on Reddit that he won't be available till May 13th due National Holiday and vacation but in the message he also give two spoilers of which only one is actually somewhat interesting

 

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In the  very near future we are going to make an update on current CV changes and tweaks. Some of you thought we went silent, but that's due to several things being prepared actively. We are determined to address a lot of concerns, and are not going to relax.

 

 

[thiextar]

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From Reddit:

 

Captains,

Due to a technical error In update 0.8.3, the Radar range of USN premium cruisers Montpelier and Wichita changed to 10 km instead of correct and the intended 9 km. This will be fixed in update 0.8.4, as we specifically reworked all Radar ranges for all ships to be systematic, and would like to avoid any inconsistencies. We're absolutely sure that it will not significantly affect Montpelier's combat capabilities and Wichita was originally released with the correct range.

We value your trust in us above all and want to own up to our mistakes. Thus, all purchases with Montpelier and Wichita in Premium shop made after update 0.8.3 and until till 23:59 UTC, 3rd of May can be fully refunded. This refund will be available until until 23:59 UTC 31st of May; to claim it, please file a ticket to Customer Support.

We apologize for any possible inconvenience and thank you for your patience.

With Regards, WoWS Team

"

So they can offer full monetary refunds, they just didnt want to when thinking of rebalancing gc....

[Panocek]

5 minutes ago, thiextar said:

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From Reddit:

 

Captains,

Due to a technical error In update 0.8.3, the Radar range of USN premium cruisers Montpelier and Wichita changed to 10 km instead of correct and the intended 9 km. This will be fixed in update 0.8.4, as we specifically reworked all Radar ranges for all ships to be systematic, and would like to avoid any inconsistencies. We're absolutely sure that it will not significantly affect Montpelier's combat capabilities and Wichita was originally released with the correct range.

We value your trust in us above all and want to own up to our mistakes. Thus, all purchases with Montpelier and Wichita in Premium shop made after update 0.8.3 and until till 23:59 UTC, 3rd of May can be fully refunded. This refund will be available until until 23:59 UTC 31st of May; to claim it, please file a ticket to Customer Support.

We apologize for any possible inconvenience and thank you for your patience.

With Regards, WoWS Team

"

So they can offer full monetary refunds, they just didnt want to when thinking of rebalancing gc....

Meanwhile Baltimore keeps 10km radar because working as intended

[DFens_666]

6 minutes ago, Panocek said:

Meanwhile Baltimore keeps 10km radar because working as intended

 

When silver ships are better than premiums Isnt Indianapolis the only premium which had its radar range buffed? Missouri, Black, Salem all stayed the same. And ofc Alaska got 10km because why not

(well, Black is atleast consistent with other Radar DDs... but unified radar is clearly not the case, when we have 8,5 - 9 - 9,5 - 10km)

 

[Panocek]

1 minute ago, DFens_666 said:

 

When silver ships are better than premiums Isnt Indianapolis the only premium which had its radar range buffed? Missouri, Black, Salem all stayed the same. And ofc Alaska got 10km because why not

 

Indy got 9.9km radar some time ago, which then got rounded to 10km. Not that she needed it, as she had nice gun range to start with, making her quite comfortable when uptiered, but hey, details

[DFens_666]

1 minute ago, Panocek said:

Indy got 9.9km radar some time ago, which then got rounded to 10km. Not that she needed it, as she had nice gun range to start with, making her quite comfortable when uptiered, but hey, details

 

Seeing how Salem is not really that outstanding, i think it might have gained by a small radar range buff... but WG doesnt care i think

[1MajorKoenig]

32 minutes ago, fumtu said:

S_O announced on Reddit that he won't be available till May 13th due National Holiday and vacation but in the message he also give two spoilers of which only one is actually somewhat interesting

 

 

 

 

Moar CV hotnerfs 

 

[Episparh]

34 minutes ago, Panocek said:

Meanwhile Baltimore keeps 10km radar because working as intended

Baltimore is CA not CL, so it gets same radar as Buffalo and Das Meme. 

[Panocek]

1 minute ago, Episparh said:

Baltimore is CA not CL, so it gets same radar as Buffalo and Das Meme. 

Wichita is affected as well. And yet she had and will return to 9km radar.

[Toivia]

6 hours ago, Panocek said:

Wichita is affected as well. And yet she had and will return to 9km radar.

Wichita was released with only a 9km radar supposedly because it is very concealed and they didn't want another stealth radaring ship (also the reason why US CLs got their radar ranges nerfed).

 

Stealth radaring sure can be very problematic for DDs, then again we cannot really talk of radar standardization still. I mean, only the soviet ships are all at 12km without exceptions, US and UK ships have all kinds of ranges.

[NothingButTheRain]

On 5/3/2019 at 2:57 PM, DFens_666 said:

 

When silver ships are better than premiums Isnt Indianapolis the only premium which had its radar range buffed? Missouri, Black, Salem all stayed the same. And ofc Alaska got 10km because why not

(well, Black is atleast consistent with other Radar DDs... but unified radar is clearly not the case, when we have 8,5 - 9 - 9,5 - 10km)

 

My guess is that this was also partially an internal thing. Instead of having each ship have its own radar, they basically made a couple standard radars and attribute one of each to each radar ship. This makes editing the radars more easy as you need to find and edit fewer files.

Hydro was also standardised ina  similar fashion.

[22cm]

This are the radar standards, first column is duration in seconds, second column is range in kms.

 

[Aotearas]

Kreml getting buffed and not even a mention of the Popeda/Slava in the latest DevBlog ship changes entry. Why am I not surprised?

 

But hey, Yoshino getting the 12km torps (yay) and Yuudachi sh*ttorps finally getting declogged. Benham also received significant torpedo buffs.

Kleber gets a concealment nerf.

[fumtu]

3 minutes ago, Aotearas said:

Kreml getting buffed and not even a mention of the Popeda/Slava in the latest DevBlog ship changes entry. Why am I not surprised?

 

S_O mentioned in last Q&A that Slava is going through 1st Test Circle and that ship will be adjusted later. As ship is added long after Kreml this is not that surprising.

 

3 minutes ago, Aotearas said:

Kleber gets a concealment nerf.

 

I guess that WG only changed Kleber and not Mogador too to test new changes on one ship as both ships are very similar. I doubt they will leave Mogador as she is now as she is even more stronger on T9 them current Kleber on T10.

[FishDogFoodShack]

Another Kreml buff, and no Slava nerfs. Sus.

 

Though I like the Yoshino and Yuudachi changes, not all bad I suppose with this.

[Aotearas]

5 minutes ago, fumtu said:

S_O mentioned in last Q&A that Slava is going through 1st Test Circle and that ship will be adjusted later. As ship is added long after Kreml this is not that surprising.

Hmm, I could swear I've read WG saying they're going to release the Slava in tandem wit the other RU BBs as an alternative regular tier X which would suggest it should be in the same testing phase as the other russian BBs. Perhaps I'm not recalling that correctly but even so the feedback/impressions from CCs that had access to the ship was resoundingly uniform in saying she's too good so even if they planned to adjust her at a later date it would've made sense to at least mention the Popeda/Slava is going to undergo unspecified changes based on feedback soon™.

 

All informations from the DevBlog are preliminary and subject to possible changes anyway so no harm done in attempting to reassure players after the recent "Popeda OP" wave.

 

 

Ah well, we know WG is downright cadaveriffic when it comes to communicating so like I mentioned, not much of a surprise there either way.

[fumtu]

2 minutes ago, Aotearas said:

Hmm, I could swear I've read WG saying they're going to release the Slava in tandem wit the other RU BBs as an alternative regular tier X which would suggest it should be in the same testing phase as the other russian BBs. Perhaps I'm not recalling that correctly but even so the feedback/impressions from CCs that had access to the ship was resoundingly uniform in saying she's too good so even if they planned to adjust her at a later date it would've made sense to at least mention the Popeda/Slava is going to undergo unspecified changes based on feedback soon™.

 

All informations from the DevBlog are preliminary and subject to possible changes anyway so no harm done in attempting to reassure players after the recent "Popeda OP" wave.

 

S_O answer on yesterdays Q&A on Reddit:

 

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It's a WIP ship; pretty soon her testing will be stopped, then feedback and data will be studied and then GD will decide what to do with her for then next test stage. With most obvious options being: to continue with the same concept, but change it to be better/more balanced/better perceived or to try different concept.

Speaking about my personal opinion. I've been hearing "it promotes passive playstyle" all the time, about everything, for years. Anything people don't like, they slap this "passive gameplay" marker on. In reality, it usually does not affect anything a lot. Campers continue to camp, pushers push. But this time I actually 100% agree with your evaluation. It is a true glass sniper cannon. Yamato and Montana can be very good at long range, too, but unlike Slava, they are not useless in CQC and can push. And my personal feelings about it is mixed: in theory it's a good concept, but maybe she should be more vulnerable to have even more distinct weakness (so sniping is less safe and can be punished easier), or, maybe, on the contrary, she should have less extreme set of strengths+weaknesses to be less specialized. But again, this paragraph is just my personal opinion, I actually haven't spent enough time playtesting her yet, and it does not reflect what Game Designers may have in mind ATM.

Cheers!