Discussion thread for "some interesting info around the world"

[SparvieroVV]

1 minute ago, Aotearas said:

You said Georgia doesn't get cruiser dispersion. Datamined informations say she does get cruiser dispersion. Other changes to the Georgia are irrelevant towards that claim you made.

That is not what I said. Please read it again. Especially in the context of the rest of the post your takeaway makes no sense. 

 

My statement was Georgia was not just getting Cruiser dispersion. Meaning there were other additions provided. Which if you had gone on to read the rest of the post were I talked about the Gascogne repair, secondaries and speed boost fits the context of the post. 

 

Cheers. 

 

 

[HaachamaShipping]

Just now, SparvieroVV said:

That is not what I said. Please read it again. Especially in the context of the rest of the post your takeaway makes no sense. 

 

My statement was Georgia was not just getting Cruiser dispersion. Meaning there were other additions provided. Which if you had gone on to read the rest of the post were I talked about the Gascogne repair, secondaries and speed boost fits the context of the post. 

 

Cheers. 

 

 

The fun part to me is, they first tested it with improved secondary accuracy, then took that away, now they test it with improved secondary range. I guess next they replace that with actual RoF buff on the secondaries. I'm not sure whether WG may ever understand that basically the sole reason Massachusetts secondaries are worth a damn is the combination of the three factors, not single aspect buffs that still leave these guns lacking in other areas. Because why would I spec into Georgia secondaries just because they have better range? They are straight up worse than Izumo secondaries and Izumo already isn't really worth a secondary spec. Georgia is no more a brawler than Izumo either.

[22cm]

60 mm deck... Gulag is coming, tovarisci... 

[Toivia]

Yeah, Georgia isn't great (although people not turned off by inconsistent guns already found her alright after the reload buff). Throwing half a dozen buffs on her at once will make her balanced, right? WG at its best...

 

So, apparently having only "large cruisers" and Hinden, Henri capable to HE pen the T9 and T10 Soviet BBs was still too much, eh? Great, really great. Cruisers are so Op, aren't they?

 

(The torp protection buff is alright though - unless the numbers are silly, I won't count that right now, but possible - as the soviet BBs are best used as close range doorstops. That makes them very likely to eat torps which depletes both of their limited consumables. So that buff is sensible, unlike the rest.)

[NoirLotus]

The torpedo protection is going from minimal value to a bit less than 25%. That seems quite reasonable indeed.

 

The deck and casemate buffs, on the other hand ...

[fumtu]

2 hours ago, Cagliostro_chan said:

The fun part to me is, they first tested it with improved secondary accuracy, then took that away, now they test it with improved secondary range. I guess next they replace that with actual RoF buff on the secondaries. I'm not sure whether WG may ever understand that basically the sole reason Massachusetts secondaries are worth a damn is the combination of the three factors, not single aspect buffs that still leave these guns lacking in other areas. Because why would I spec into Georgia secondaries just because they have better range? They are straight up worse than Izumo secondaries and Izumo already isn't really worth a secondary spec. Georgia is no more a brawler than Izumo either.

 

Georgia's secondaries initially had better dispersion then Massa's but after the nerf they dispersion is same as Massa's secondary guns. Now they have same base range, only difference is RoF. So Georgia secondaries are as good as Massa but their RoF is slower.

[DFens_666]

WG with the latest buffs

 

[lafeel]

Interesting that someone would refer to Slava (Glory) as Pobeda (Victory) instead..

[Toivia]

Ok, just as an addendum to my previous post about Georgia: Stuntman and the author for TheDailyBounce blog (Yuzorah, was it?) were fine with the current Georgia with 26s reload.

[WashedandDeceased]

Car salesman:  *slaps roof of Georgia*

This bad boy can fit so many gimmicks in it 

... 

[Yedwy]

MBRB? 

 

 

 

 

 

[HystericalAccuracy]

17 hours ago, Aotearas said:

And why should any cruiser be a serious threat to glorious russian battleships?

You mean

"And why should any cruiser be a serious threat to glorious battleships?"

 

The glorious BBs which for the most part did nothing but to lay in port and bankrupt the state they belonged to.

[Yedwy]

Well in all fairness battleships (in modern sence ergo super-dreadnought and fast-battleships) had the misfortune to evolve right next to aviation and aircraft carriers that made them obsolete the same day first plane came back to its cv after a stike on another ship...

[Tyrendian89]

22 minutes ago, drmajga said:

The glorious BBs which for the most part did nothing but to lay in port and bankrupt the state they belonged to.

and in further fairness, you have to give credit to the Russian BBs for one thing - they did not cost their state nearly as much money as some of the others...

[Yedwy]

True paper aint that expensive and labor in a planned economy neither 

[fumtu]

So Georgia now has identical secondaries as Massa and same heal. I think that they overbuff it especially with that improved accuracy.

 

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American battleship Georgia, tier IX:

• Main guns firing range lowered from 21.04 to 20.04 km;

• Secondary guns firing range is increased from 6 to 7.5 km;

• Secondary guns reload time is reduced from 6 to 4 s;

• "Engine boost" consumable is added: action time 180 s, maximum speed +15%, reload time 120 (90) s, 2 (3) charges.

• An option to install "Engine boost modification I" is given;

• "Repair party" values are changed:

  • HP/s restoration is lowered from 0.66%/s to 0.5%/s

  • Reload time is lowered from 120 (80) s to 60 (40) s.

Georgia was designed to fight at long ranges, but testing showed that good accuracy only compensates for a low amount of guns, but doesn't sufficiently qualify as a feature of the ship. Considering the ballistics and good speed characteristics, we made a decision to change the concept of this battleship to that of a more dynamic one. Georgia will feel most comfortable at medium distances. Good secondaries resembling those of Massachusetts, "Engine boost" with +15% to maximum speed and "Repair party" with low reload time will allow her to fight more aggressively. The adjusted accuracy will allow, on average, to hit the target with about half of the shells even at the maximum distance.

 

Instead of simply removing Shima 20km torps WG is now adding them to other ships

 

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Japanese cruiser Yoshino, tier X:

New torpedoes added:

• Reload time: 167 s;

• Maximum damage: 20967;

• Speed: 62 knots;

• Range: 20 km;

• Detectability range: 2.5 km.

The possibility of having two types of torpedoes is being considered for the cruiser, and at the coming iteration we're going to test a new variant: torpedoes with long range but high detectability.

 

Hope she will have 12km torps as option.

[Solo_Wing_Potato]

Oh god what are WG thinking putting stock  Shima torps on Yoshino.   

[HaachamaShipping]

33 minutes ago, fumtu said:

Hope she will have 12km torps as option.

Yes, it says so in the text you quoted.

 

Also, why does Kreml get 60 mm plating while Slava gets nerfed to 32 mm due to "excessive protection"? I'm kinda hard-pressed to see the point of Slava. Originally, I thought it might be that it was an attempt at giving the RU BB line a T10 that could be used in competitive meta, but if the ship has 32 mm plating, RU citadel, 406 mm guns with standard dispersion and 2.0 sigma, the ship looks basically like a 2 knot faster Yamato with worse armour and, worse accuracy and no overmatch. Or a terrible Republique. What am I missing or is the T10 of RU basically just close/mid-range derp and absolute mediocrity?

[WashedandDeceased]

But.. But.. Comrade, she is meant to be played from 2nd line, da? How are torps supposed to reach enemy? 

Simple! 20km torps! 

And.. what about our ships in the front? 

Acceptable casualties Vasily! 

 

[WolfGewehr]

9 hours ago, Freyr_90 said:

Car salesman:  *slaps roof of Georgia*

This bad boy can fit so many gimmicks in it 

... 

 

Oh now I see why Kreml deck got reinforced:

 

Ship salesman:  *slaps deck of Kreml*

*deck collapses*

...

[El2aZeR]

I remember when WG told me the 20km torps are horrible and are gonna get removed/reworked in a Q&A.

That was like 2 years ago.

 

46 minutes ago, Ace_Rimmer01 said:

Oh god what are WG thinking putting stock  Shima torps on Yoshino.   

 

Pick one:

- Vodka

- Serb's shady new gimmick

- Lesta is fooling around again

- It's a WG monetization conspiracy

[Panocek]

2 hours ago, shonai said:

British aircraft carrier Indomitable, tier VIII:

• Aiming ellipse size of attack aircraft is increased:
  • Inner ellipse size is increased by 24%;
  • Outer ellipse size is increased by 42%;
• Amount of rockets hitting the inner ellipse is lowered from 75% to 50%.
•  

Testing showed that attack aircraft were too effective against destroyers. Increasing the size of the aiming ellipse and accuracy changes will lower the damage done to destroyers, with almost no changes to interaction with other classes.

 

So, what Indentable is going to have for her again?

[El2aZeR]

2 hours ago, shonai said:

British aircraft carrier Indomitable, tier VIII:

• Aiming ellipse size of attack aircraft is increased:
  • Inner ellipse size is increased by 24%;
  • Outer ellipse size is increased by 42%;
• Amount of rockets hitting the inner ellipse is lowered from 75% to 50%.
•  

Testing showed that attack aircraft were too effective against destroyers. Increasing the size of the aiming ellipse and accuracy changes will lower the damage done to destroyers, with almost no changes to interaction with other classes.

 

*laughs madly in Enterprise* 

[Bellegar]

58 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

I remember when WG told me the 20km torps are horrible and are gonna get removed/reworked in a Q&A.

That was like 2 years ago.

 

 

Pick one:

- Vodka

- Serb's shady new gimmick

- Lesta is fooling around again

- It's a WG monetization conspiracy

It's Serb.

 

It's always Serb.

 

The Serb is eternal, just like fire and damnation. In fact, being eternal is not the only thing those things have in common......

[El2aZeR]

A Somers class DD. With Fletcher torp reload speed on Gearing torps.

Because Shima isn't obsolete enough yet I suppose.