Humorpalanta ∞ Players 2,025 posts 13,785 battles Report post #13826 Posted February 12, 2019 I think the game has changed for the better. These changes were inevitable and much needed. Nerfing premium ships is a good idea. Balance over anything! Players come and go and come again. Internet users are known to be very forgetful and forgiving. Plus, they haven't screwed up any of their games yet, so, why should we worry? I have been playing more Wows than ever and enjoying it much more. I think DD gameplay has never been so nicely detailed and fun. I'm gonna put even more money in this game! Spoiler 1 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #13827 Posted February 12, 2019 40 minutes ago, Aotearas said: I don't see how I got rewarded for the 45 aircraft kills. Hm... True actually. I guess WG really did decide that plane kill rewards aren't miserable enough yet. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humorpalanta ∞ Players 2,025 posts 13,785 battles Report post #13828 Posted February 13, 2019 How come their choice was Kidd to sell right now? Hmmm. Interesting. Wonder why. Not greed at all. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #13829 Posted February 13, 2019 54 minutes ago, Humorpalanta said: How come their choice was Kidd to sell right now? Hmmm. Interesting. Wonder why. Not greed at all. Wichita as "premium Baltimore" would be better pick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,850 battles Report post #13830 Posted February 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Humorpalanta said: How come their choice was Kidd to sell right now? Hmmm. Interesting. Wonder why. Not greed at all. Commerce? C'mon, this is hardly unexpected. If was WG I'd have had several more AA ships in the Premium Shop when 0.8.0 went live. Why not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XODUS] JaiFoh Players 799 posts 4,868 battles Report post #13831 Posted February 13, 2019 13 hours ago, El2aZeR said: Hm... True actually. I guess WG really did decide that plane kill rewards aren't miserable enough yet. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I am pretty sure they said that Plane XP kills was disabled or nerfed for the time being. If it was as it was, i dread to think what my 113 plane kill mino game would have got in XP above the 3.5k base. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P0RT] Admiral_H_Nelson Players 3,938 posts 23,206 battles Report post #13832 Posted February 13, 2019 1 hour ago, JaiFoh said: I am pretty sure they said that Plane XP kills was disabled or nerfed for the time being. I'm sure that all those players burning premium time so that they can act as testers for a CV rework that they never asked for are gratified to hear that. [/sarcasm] (And, no, I am not shooting the messenger. In fact, a big "Thank you " for sharing this information! ) 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #13833 Posted February 13, 2019 2 hours ago, JaiFoh said: I am pretty sure they said that Plane XP kills was disabled or nerfed for the time being. Funny, because the reaction of the WG staff in the Q&A upon my question about aircraft kills not being rewarded was quite distinctively "what the hell are you talking about" ... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HU-SD] Prospect_b Players 2,655 posts 14,214 battles Report post #13834 Posted February 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Aotearas said: what the hell are you talking about" Funny... That was their reaction too when people said tier 8 carriers have problems when uptiered. It's almost like that entire stream was nothing but PR 6 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AAO] rnat Players 1,597 posts 21,919 battles Report post #13835 Posted February 13, 2019 33 minutes ago, Aotearas said: Funny, because the reaction of the WG staff in the Q&A upon my question about aircraft kills not being rewarded was quite distinctively "what the hell are you talking about" ... Pretty sure they are rewarded (not to imply they are rewarded well). At least that's the only way i can make sense of some of the exp i've gotten in several matches (e.g. top of the winning team in ~40k dmg Montana game (granted ~60% of it DD dmg) where i didn't do much besides tanking/fleeing and farming planes) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #13836 Posted February 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, rnat said: (granted ~60% of it DD dmg) That part probably accounts for most of your XP. If aircraft kills are rewarded, then they've lowered the values even more than it already was prior to the rework because some of the XP results on games where I shot down loads and loads of aircraft would otherwise make no bloody sense at all. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[AAO] rnat Players 1,597 posts 21,919 battles Report post #13837 Posted February 13, 2019 Just now, Aotearas said: If aircraft kills are rewarded, then they've lowered the values even more than it already was prior to the rework because some of the XP results on games where I shot down loads and loads of aircraft would otherwise make no bloody sense at all. What might have happened (and this is just my suspicion) is that the rewards scale differently now to account for 2-3x CV games and unlimited hangars. i.e. Killing a sh*tton of planes is no longer as valuable compared to getting a middle-of-the-pack amount as before. Previously it was just a linear function in plane kills if i remember correctly. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,656 battles Report post #13838 Posted February 13, 2019 11 hours ago, Humorpalanta said: How come their choice was Kidd to sell right now? Hmmm. Interesting. Wonder why. Not greed at all. It could have been worse: another premium Feltcher at T9, for cash, in a bundle including both AA modules - perfect for Ranked and blowing up planes. (Actually, thinking about it, I might have fallen for that - then again, I'm an idiot) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,978 battles Report post #13839 Posted February 13, 2019 45 minutes ago, Verblonde said: It could have been worse: another premium Feltcher at T9, for cash, in a bundle including both AA modules - perfect for Ranked and blowing up planes. Another Fletcher! Yes, WG give us USS Pringle(s) at T7 Sorry I meant this one A perfect ship for potatoes . 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #13840 Posted February 13, 2019 19 minutes ago, fumtu said: Another Fletcher! Yes, WG give us USS Pringle(s) at T7 *snip* Sorry I meant this one *snip* A perfect ship for potatoes . You know, a DD with catapult fighters in the current CV/AA meta ... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COMFY] ImperialAdmiral [COMFY] Players 1,649 posts 9,828 battles Report post #13841 Posted February 13, 2019 Mogador class was also first designed to carry a plane. Soon TM ? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,656 battles Report post #13842 Posted February 13, 2019 29 minutes ago, fumtu said: Another Fletcher! Yes, WG give us USS Pringle(s) at T7 <snip> Sorry I meant this one A perfect ship for potatoes . Bugger - a cynical joke turns into rather a good suggestion for a premium - T7 or T8, depending on exactly what you did with the plane and torps? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,850 battles Report post #13843 Posted February 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Verblonde said: Bugger - a cynical joke turns into rather a good suggestion for a premium - T7 or T8, depending on exactly what you did with the plane and torps? A destroyer with a spotter plane?? Can you imagine how people would react to that? Better rename her the USS Saltminer and have done with it. (Great Premium, though. ) 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,978 battles Report post #13844 Posted February 13, 2019 21 minutes ago, Aotearas said: You know, a DD with catapult fighters in the current CV/AA meta ... Yea, I know ... maybe if she launch 3 or 4 fighters at the same time ... Pringles can on average has around 100 chips, I'm sure that USN could stash several flights of fighters somewhere on destroyer with "same" name. Or give option for spotter plane so that those with ultrawide display could shoot something at 14-15km. Maybe they would still need another monitor for proper lead. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,656 battles Report post #13845 Posted February 13, 2019 1 minute ago, invicta2012 said: A destroyer with a spotter plane?? Can you imagine how people would react to that? She'd, presumably, be a sort of Perth, only without the creeping smoke, and with shorter ranged guns? That doesn't sound completely horrifying...? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,978 battles Report post #13846 Posted February 13, 2019 6 minutes ago, Verblonde said: Bugger - a cynical joke turns into rather a good suggestion for a premium - T7 or T8, depending on exactly what you did with the plane and torps? With four guns and only one torpedo launcher she could be T7 at best. But yes WG could make her interesting with proper torps and, maybe special, plane consumable. She could hardly be OP but she could be interesting ... if properly balanced. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,850 battles Report post #13847 Posted February 13, 2019 Just now, Verblonde said: She'd, presumably, be a sort of Perth, only without the creeping smoke, and with shorter ranged guns? That doesn't sound completely horrifying...? Perth doesn't have 6k concealment and 3.5 second reload, but I know what you mean. I just think that people would use it as an ambush ship rather than an anti-plane ship. Perhaps the fighters could be really, really bad at spotting other ships? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,656 battles Report post #13848 Posted February 13, 2019 1 minute ago, invicta2012 said: Perth doesn't have 6k concealment and 3.5 second reload, but I know what you mean. I just think that people would use it as an ambush ship rather than an anti-plane ship. Perhaps the fighters could be really, really bad at spotting other ships? On the original, the planes were spotters, if I'm reading wikipedia right (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Pringle_(DD-477)); for the premium, you could give players a choice. With fighters equipped, it might be interesting in the current meta: when threatened by rocket planes, hide in smoke with AA off, and deploy fighters to go after the attackers. With an actual spotter loaded, you play like a shorter range, more dakka Perth... With only one bank of torps (and four guns), you'd perhaps have to play for the team a lot more - kind of like Kidd when she isn't hunting planes...? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,978 battles Report post #13849 Posted February 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Verblonde said: On the original, the planes were spotters, if I'm reading wikipedia right All catapult planes on cruisers and BBs, IRL, were usually spotter planes. Fighter plane consumable is mostly WG balance thing then historical fact. So things like that are quite easy to change in game for balance reasons. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,656 battles Report post #13850 Posted February 13, 2019 At the risk of being presumptuous, may I pass on @fumtu's suggestion of USS Pringle as a future premium to @MrConway, please? I'm sure it must have been suggested before somewhere, but I don't recall seeing it in my time playing WOWS (so, at least a year)... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
