Discussion thread for "some interesting info around the world"

[josykay]

11 hours ago, Major_Damage225 said:

You'r gonna have to sacrifice a heelova lot of goats to RNGesus to get a shell in that spot 

Well that is, why Hood explode.  What can happen, will happen. Still, a really weird, unusual weakpoint.

[woppy101]

16 hours ago, Comodoro_Allande said:

Tier VI Russian BB Izmail has some parts near the two central turrets where the thin 20 mm citadel roof is exposed, so as it is now even cruiser HE can citadel her with some luck (it's kinda blocked by some secondary guns tho). The anti bias

Have you got a link to the armour models?

[Comodoro_Allande]

1 hora antes, woppy101 dijo:

Have you got a link to the armour models?

 

Sadly, no. I just caught that on a stream or video (I don't remember now). Closest thing I have now are detailed analysis from tier III to VI (for now) in The Daily Bounce:
https://thedailybounce.net/world-of-warships/supertest-russian-tier-vi-battleship-izmail/

[fumtu]

1 hour ago, woppy101 said:

Have you got a link to the armour models?

 

You can find more about armour layout of T6-T10 Soviet BBs in Flamu video

 

 

[Darth_Glorious]

T3 Knyaz Suvorov has bad rear gun angle (48 degrees to full broadside), most of the time, you can use only 6 guns if you don't want to be citadelled.

The guns are very accurate so you don't feel Myogi syndrome and can reliably murder DDs.

Moreover, the ship is immune to cruiser HE dmg due to all around armoured.

In short, It is really a terrifying sealclubber.

[Major_Damage225]

9 minutes ago, Darth_Glorious said:

T3 Knyaz Suvorov has bad rear gun angle (48 degrees to full broadside), most of the time, you can use only 6 guns if you don't want to be citadelled.

The guns are very accurate so you don't feel Myogi syndrome and can reliably murder DDs.

Moreover, the ship is immune to cruiser HE dmg due to all around armoured.

In short, It is really a terrifying sealclubber.

So wg uptieres Viribus Unitus to T5 because they fear a nikolai 2.0, but then add Nikolai 3.0 gtr on t3? Lel 

[invicta2012]

Apparently the III and IV have the same guns as Okt. Revol. Hmm. Unless they nerf the traverse, that might be a bit OP. 

[Panocek]

4 minutes ago, invicta2012 said:

Apparently the III and IV have the same guns as Okt. Revol. Hmm. Unless they nerf the traverse, that might be a bit OP. 

Nikolai already pays for extra accuracy with glacial traverse and 36s reload

[1MajorKoenig]

4 minutes ago, Panocek said:

Nikolai already pays for extra accuracy with glacial traverse and 36s reload

 

Which of course balances her perfectly according to her Server stats 

[ColonelPete]

32 minutes ago, invicta2012 said:

Apparently the III and IV have the same guns as Okt. Revol. Hmm. Unless they nerf the traverse, that might be a bit OP. 

Kaiser has the same guns/shells as Koenig.

For Tier III, they might be a bit strong. Unfortunately the Russian Navy used only one AP shell for these guns and that is the one implemented.

Either WG makes up a weaker shell or they have indeed to do something with the Tier III ship.

[invicta2012]

Nikolai has that 12 x centre line gun thing going on, which means that the traverse time isn't that problematic. The Kynaz Suvorov has the diamond type arrangement, so more difficult to get a substantial number of guns on target. Gangut at Tier IV looks the nearest candidate for the new Nikolai. 12 guns, better dispersion but weaker sigma. 

[HaachamaShipping]

12 minutes ago, ImperialAdmiral said:

ST, test ships changes

German battleship Viribus Unitis, tier V.

- The Sigma value is decreased from 1.8 to 1.65;
- Changed the parameters of the consumable "Repair party":
-- The restoration of the casemate (non-citadel) damage reduced from 50% to 40%;
-- Restoration of hit points, after receiving damage to the citadel, increased from 10% to 33%.

The battleship had excessive accuracy for its Main Battery salvoes with hard-hitting shells. Changing the parameter will bring the accuracy in line with other battleships of this tier.

Viribus Unitis has good armor, allowing it to avoid sustaining large amounts of casemate damage, however, with the small number of hit points, penetrating the citadel (with shell, bomb or torpedo) is fatal for the ship, so changing the proportions of the restored hit points will reduce the severity of the damage received in the citadel.

Guess VU doesn't deserve getting hp, speed, dpm or even accuracy. And now it doesn't even deserve getting a proper repair party. Because let's face it, the citadel should be untouchable for surface ships, getting torped in a ship with this kind of turning circle shouldn't happen to any decent player and AP bombs are entirely just an issue because unlike König this ship gets an utter joke of an AA suite.

 

Tell me WG, what exactly does VU have over König that requires the nerfbat this much?

[ColonelPete]

I hope they come to their senses and put VU on Tier IV.

Gangut is already fixed on Tier IV and WG has to make her balanced too.

[Darth_Glorious]

Quote

Soviet destroyer Neustrashimy, tier IX.

- Changed the parameters of the consumable "Repair party":
-- The restoration of damage increased from 50% to 60%;
-- Duration: 20 sec instead of 28;
-- Healing: 2% instead of 0.5% of maximum hit points per second:

So Neutrashimy got British super heal , 40%Hp per charge

[Aotearas]

22 minutes ago, Darth_Glorious said:

So Neutrashimy got British super heal , 40%Hp per charge

56% actually because it runs for 28 seconds, not 20.

[Panocek]

2 minutes ago, Aotearas said:

56% actually because it runs for 28 seconds, not 20.

-- Duration: 20 sec instead of 28;

 

[Tyrendian89]

3 minutes ago, Aotearas said:

56% actually because it runs for 28 seconds, not 20.

eh... no it doesn't?

still 48% because of flag tho... which takes the Neustra to around 60k theoretical max HP (gonna be less in practice because most damage isnt fully repairable, but still that's scary^^)

[Aotearas]

6 minutes ago, Tyrendian89 said:

eh... no it doesn't?

2% max HP every second. Heal lasts for 28 seconds: 28x2=56.

 

Herp a derp, I had a number switcheroo and read the duration wrong. Whoopsie.

[Tyrendian89]

1 minute ago, Aotearas said:

Heal lasts for 28 seconds

no it does not...

or at least, one of us can't read here..

[Aotearas]

2 minutes ago, Tyrendian89 said:

or at least, one of us can't read here..

I plead the fifth.

 

 

Noteworthy however is the lack of mention about increased cooldown or decreased number of charges. So presumably the N-DD gets all the advantages of the RN super heal, but none of the counterbalancing compromises.

[Tyrendian89]

Just now, Aotearas said:

I plead the fifth.

 

 

Noteworthy however is the lack of mention about increased cooldown or decreased number of charges.

wasn't it at one charge base already?

[Aotearas]

11 minutes ago, Tyrendian89 said:

wasn't it at one charge base already?

Can't recall if that has ever been disclosed tbh. If it was, then quite a while ago because I can't remember and there's no mention of it in the forum DevBlog entries about the N-DD. Normal tier IX techtree RU DDs come with two base charges on the normal heal, so presumably that will have been the same deal for the N-DD back when it also had the same standard heal.

 

Even so, that wouldn't explain why there's no mention of an increased cooldown as all other super heals have compared to a regular heal.

Edit: Nevermind, apparently it's only the RN BBs that had the heal nerfed. RN CLs have the same heal cooldown and charges as standard.

[Affeks]

Neustra can now heal 11 500 HP per heal, and with right setup get 58 800 total HP...

 

Lesta trying real hard to justify the steel I see 

[Major_Damage225]

5 hours ago, Seiranko said:

what exactly does VU have over König that requires the nerfbat this much?

Its not rashian, thats reason enough. 

Joke aside, first they uptier it (cuzz reasons™), now they just playn butcher it, i always wanted this ship ingame, one of the reasons is diving on her sistership but the way it is now, it's just a bad joke (yes i know she was strong in her first iteration at T4, but now......) 

[Affeks]

I feel like were forgetting some ships...

 

Lazo and Wichita are the ones I can remember now, anyone else?