[-AP-] thiextar Players 3,503 posts 9,933 battles Report post #13701 Posted February 5, 2019 If they nerf premium ships, no matter how warranted. They should ALWAYS refund for cash. Giving out doubloons is greedy and pathetic. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #13702 Posted February 5, 2019 13 minutes ago, 10ThousandThings said: Also as a GC owner, it does seem fair enough to move it up a tier. Getting the economy of a T6 premium (hopefully?) having paid for a T5 will also be nice, and I don't think it should suffer too badly in terms of fun factor. Worth trying at the very least. It's less OP for sure, but it is by no means bad. The only part where it falls short is the hp pool and AA, but in most areas it's great. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Toivia Players 4,019 posts 23,913 battles Report post #13703 Posted February 5, 2019 Nerfing premium ships comes with its own can of worms, but in case of ships like GC, it is needed. I still say best case scenario is prevention here, never allow a premium ship to be OP at release. Always rather release it in nerfed shape and buff later if needed (in small increments to prevent overbuffing). 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Verdius Beta Tester 1,989 posts 4,247 battles Report post #13704 Posted February 5, 2019 I am a GC (and Kamikaze) owner and I am (cautiously) pretty ok with this, as long as they make sure it fits at T6. Just do the plating and maybe give it a bit more hp. Wish they'd do this to Belfast and other 'balans' premiums and Exeter as well. Oh and pls bump Leone and the Duca's a tier down already. Aosta fits better at T5 with its current setup, and Abruzzi would be beter suited to T6. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humorpalanta ∞ Players 2,025 posts 13,785 battles Report post #13705 Posted February 5, 2019 It seems they ran out of Vodka and started to drink bleech instead... 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJ_Die Players 930 posts 9,329 battles Report post #13706 Posted February 6, 2019 23 hours ago, Humorpalanta said: It seems they ran out of Vodka and started to drink bleech instead... Why do you think so? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humorpalanta ∞ Players 2,025 posts 13,785 battles Report post #13707 Posted February 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, DJ_Die said: Why do you think so? Because every other explanation is just crazy. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[P0RT] Admiral_H_Nelson Players 3,938 posts 23,206 battles Report post #13708 Posted February 6, 2019 On 2/5/2019 at 5:04 PM, Toivia said: Nerfing premium ships comes with its own can of worms, but in case of ships like GC, it is needed. I still say best case scenario is prevention here, never allow a premium ship to be OP at release. Always rather release it in nerfed shape and buff later if needed (in small increments to prevent overbuffing). Perfect sense! But they were warned over and over again about GC BEFORE it was releases - and in their OVERBEARING ARROGANCE they ignored the warnings. If they get a sh*tstorm then they deserve it. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #13709 Posted February 6, 2019 23 minutes ago, Admiral_H_Nelson said: But they were warned over and over again about GC BEFORE it was releases - and in their OVERBEARING ARROGANCE they ignored the warnings. I would just like to remind everyone that they even buffed the GC quite heavily after it was released. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DJ_Die Players 930 posts 9,329 battles Report post #13710 Posted February 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Humorpalanta said: Because every other explanation is just crazy. explanation of them nerfing premium ships? because imho it was crazy not to nerf them 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humorpalanta ∞ Players 2,025 posts 13,785 battles Report post #13711 Posted February 7, 2019 11 hours ago, DJ_Die said: explanation of them nerfing premium ships? because imho it was crazy not to nerf them Sure. Don't mind anything 3lse. Its just about GC. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
44smok Players 4,367 posts 16,858 battles Report post #13712 Posted February 7, 2019 It's not a nerf. It's a buff to doubloon value. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[THESO] Excavatus [THESO] Moderator 4,705 posts 17,878 battles Report post #13713 Posted February 7, 2019 Nobody? CV hotfix is in the game..!! I am at work cannot check it.. Come on!!! Share something.. The only thing I know is from our clans Discord! somebody said this! gents take out your Minos - tested it this morning, CVs are no problem any more 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[LADA] Gvozdika [LADA] Players 975 posts 10,423 battles Report post #13714 Posted February 7, 2019 17 minutes ago, Excavatus said: Nobody? CV hotfix is in the game..!! I am at work cannot check it.. Come on!!! Share something.. The only thing I know is from our clans Discord! somebody said this! gents take out your Minos - tested it this morning, CVs are no problem any more As far as I can tell - it's still Farming Simulator 2019. It's just the AA cruisers turn now to farm planes. Much wailing from some CV players as the old 'press F to get out of Jail Free' trick doesn't work quite as well as it used to. WG being WG - they may have whacked the CV/AA balance in favour of AA (previously it was firmly in favour of the CV). Continuous AA damage is a fair bit higher on certain ships (AA cruisers in particular) so flying near them is now a really bad idea. Imagine that, an AA ship being dangerous to planes..... who ever heard of such a thing? Attacking blobs of ships is now also not a good idea due to multiple stronger continuous damage auras being applied. I think DDs are still stuffed by the ever present threat of the rocket mafia - I honestly don't know how WG can address that short of buffing DD concealment to silly levels or nerfing attack planes to the point that they become useless. I'm sure the pendulum of balance will swing the other way in the next fix - so enjoy the ride while it lasts! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CPC] NoirLotus [CPC] Quality Poster 2,545 posts 13,192 battles Report post #13715 Posted February 7, 2019 A first step to help DD would be to remove 6th sense to planes. At this time, the detection distance of DD doesn't count, all that matters is the plane distance detection : plane is spotted, ok there is a DD in the area, let's search it and voilà, 10 sec later, the DD spotted and attacked. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #13716 Posted February 7, 2019 In short, they replace a mess by another mess 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humorpalanta ∞ Players 2,025 posts 13,785 battles Report post #13717 Posted February 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Darth_Glorious said: In short, they replace a mess by another mess Hey it's WG. Who could have possibly expected that? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Verdius Beta Tester 1,989 posts 4,247 battles Report post #13718 Posted February 7, 2019 You can't balance T8 CV against T10 AA. Is there any way that you can have good T10 AA but not completely shut down T8 CV? Maybe they should give T8 cv a damage modifier for T10 AA. Or seperate MM, although WG will never do that. Now if only there was some number between 8 and 10 for a CV that you could fill those T10 battles with. Its almost like having a big powergap between T8 and T10 CVs might cause issues. 4 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,656 battles Report post #13719 Posted February 7, 2019 4 hours ago, NoirLotus said: A first step to help DD would be to remove 6th sense to planes. This. All kinds of this! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNT] HaganeNoKaze Beta Tester 152 posts 11,794 battles Report post #13720 Posted February 7, 2019 Yeah... while Haku was a bit too much OP before hotfix, and already not really fun, no she is even bad and clearly boring to play. I am quite fascinated by the capacity to WG dev team to be so incompetent as doing anything... ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COMFY] ImperialAdmiral [COMFY] Players 1,649 posts 9,828 battles Report post #13721 Posted February 7, 2019 According to the WoWs stream tomorrow the name for Azuma kai is gonna be revealed together with some more info. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humorpalanta ∞ Players 2,025 posts 13,785 battles Report post #13722 Posted February 7, 2019 4 hours ago, Verdius said: You can't balance T8 CV against T10 AA. Is there any way that you can have good T10 AA but not completely shut down T8 CV? Maybe they should give T8 cv a damage modifier for T10 AA. Or seperate MM, although WG will never do that. Now if only there was some number between 8 and 10 for a CV that you could fill those T10 battles with. Its almost like having a big powergap between T8 and T10 CVs might cause issues. AA vs CV: IF T X -> 100% dmg IF T IX -> 90% dmg IF T VIII -> 80% dmg Ehrmagerd its magic! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #13723 Posted February 7, 2019 38 minutes ago, Humorpalanta said: Ehrmagerd its magic! Sometimes KISS is best. Keep It Simple, Stupid. I'm gonna put in a suggestion in the feedback thread. Shouldn't be too hard to implement considering such a modifier already exists in the form of accuracy (which, for those who do not know, isn't actually some kind of RNG but is just multiplied with DPS to get the true DPS value). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[JUNK] Affeks [JUNK] Beta Tester 1,934 posts 8,416 battles Report post #13724 Posted February 7, 2019 6 hours ago, ImperialAdmiral said: According to the WoWs stream tomorrow the name for Azuma kai is gonna be revealed together with some more info. Holy moly thats hype af Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #13725 Posted February 8, 2019 12 hours ago, Affeks said: Holy moly thats hype af Quote Dear players, We’ve received a lot of questions about several work-in-progress ships’ distribution method. Today we’ve made the decision about three of them, and we’re sharing it with you to bring more clarity and avoid any confusion in the future. Azuma (IJN cruiser, tier IX, in testing) will be available for Free XP. Yoshino (IJN cruiser, tier X, modernized Azuma, in development) will be available for Coal. Neustrashimy (Soviet tier IX destroyer, in testing) will be available for Steel. The release dates for these ships will be published later, in the respective news on the game website. Thanks for reading, good luck, and fair seas! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
