[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #13276 Posted January 17, 2019 1 minute ago, ColonelPete said: They will be quite similar (still a bit weaker than Warspite), but a Tier higher... The normal fuse Warspite feels like she has more "Oomph" than the short fuse QE. Hope Hood will feel more like Warspite than QE now. I might even get Hood now. She may not have the pen, but Hood still improves on Warspite with improved ricochet angles. Mid-range, that can be quite some hurt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NED] piet11111 Players 2,225 posts 8,827 battles Report post #13277 Posted January 17, 2019 Did they have anything to say about the Alaska ? I saw on the wowsmainpage twitch stream box a list of the "supercruisers" before they talked about the buffs but i got in the stream to late to hear it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UTW] ShinGetsu Weekend Tester, In AlfaTesters 8,985 posts 7,359 battles Report post #13278 Posted January 17, 2019 Daaaaaamn. Izumo is starting to be a serious contender for best Tier IX BB. Especially since CV rework will make IJN AA a lot stronger. So ship get now 2.0 sigma, third highest BB penetration (behind Yamato and République), well protected citadel, troll armor scheme, 57mm deck... Also the alternative DD russian DD line is getting stronger than ever. Dunkerque buff is nice too tho I would have liked more a sigma buff. Colorado sigma will make it a dangerous opponent as well. And Kii torpedoes will be hilarious. xD Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SINT] Jvd2000 Players 1,639 posts 31,137 battles Report post #13279 Posted January 17, 2019 Izumo, Sigma has been increased from 1.8 to 2.0. Wow, WG really went out to buff this ship, while they just could change the layout ot the 3rd turret…. With improved penetrations an (even more) long range sniper? More in line with Yamato as preparation? battleship Kii, Main Battery reload ruced from 31 to 30 seconds torps improved. Reload ok, torps meh...Still mains guns make it an inferior Amagi battleship Nagato, reload MB 32 --> 30, Nice, could use some love. Colorado, Sigma increased from 1.9 to 2.0, back to pre nerfed B hull sigma.. Battleship Dunkerque, reload 28-->26 Either increased sigma or playing with reload module/ speed module would have been more reasonable and French premium like. This ship needs more buff... Battleship Hood, sigma increase 1.8--2.0 Nice, finaly some damage threat from this ship destroyer Aigle, Torpedo range has been increased from 7 to 8 km; OK i think? Mahan, reload mb 4 to 3.3 seconds. Its concealment due to tier VII makes it weak...upping the guns wont change this. Sims, Extra torp range. Really is this needed? Ognevoi, and Udaloi, repair consumable added. Ognevoi needed a buff. But their HP was never the reason for their impopularity Kiev, change smoke for HP. meh helps when fighting DD's with heal like Kidd? So all (almost) old BB's (US and JPN) received buffs the last 3 patches closing the cap towards the newer ships...A bit like counter counter power creep.. Nice if you are a BB since you will get better and the worst that can happen is that the "red" BB got buffed too… Now if you are a poor cruiser.... 2019 year of the cruiser :) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #13280 Posted January 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Jvd2000 said: Sims, Extra torp range. Really is this needed? I'd not consider it necessarily extra torp range. I'd consider it making it an actually useful choice and with the 7 km torps being not too bad, de facto you might see a decrease in torp range. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,620 battles Report post #13281 Posted January 17, 2019 6 minutes ago, Seiranko said: I'd not consider it necessarily extra torp range. I'd consider it making it an actually useful choice and with the 7 km torps being not too bad, de facto you might see a decrease in torp range. It gives the sea mines a bit more viability in a radar-heavy environment, perhaps? When Sims has come up in conversation, lately the tendency is to dismiss her on the grounds that her concealment is dreadful - this gives the option of a slightly more extensive stealth torp window (although I must say, I'm rather tempted by the YOLO torp option now). Hope it doesn't result in people trying to use her as a long-range (ish) torp spammer though - she'll be pretty pants at that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #13282 Posted January 17, 2019 The Hood Buff I like. But they forgot PEF ffs 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #13283 Posted January 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Verblonde said: It gives the sea mines a bit more viability in a radar-heavy environment, perhaps? When Sims has come up in conversation, lately the tendency is to dismiss her on the grounds that her concealment is dreadful - this gives the option of a slightly more extensive stealth torp window (although I must say, I'm rather tempted by the YOLO torp option now). Hope it doesn't result in people trying to use her as a long-range (ish) torp spammer though - she'll be pretty pants at that... I will likely use 7 km torps. The sea mines are crap anyway and 7 km torps with 11k damage and 65 knot/1.3 km detection is not too bad. If you get a T7 max game, these work quite well. Vs T8/9, just stay clear of radar threats or torp around islands or something. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[WBF] unsinkable_sam_ Players 187 posts 19,535 battles Report post #13284 Posted January 17, 2019 Stalingrad fire duration incraese to 60 sec very bad idea.. Very poor concealment, and with 0.8.0 patch will be worse concealment... More than 14 km.. 60 sec fire and very poor concealment.. This is very ugly nerf for 28 000 steel ship.. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SM0KE] Verblonde Players 9,787 posts 20,620 battles Report post #13285 Posted January 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Seiranko said: I will likely use 7 km torps. The sea mines are crap anyway and 7 km torps with 11k damage and 65 knot/1.3 km detection is not too bad. I think I might follow your lead - my hit % is pretty dreadful with the sea mines... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SINT] Jvd2000 Players 1,639 posts 31,137 battles Report post #13286 Posted January 17, 2019 Just now, unsinkable_sam_ said: Stalingrad fire duration incraese to 60 sec very bad idea.. Very poor concealment, and with 0.8.0 patch will be worse concealment... More than 14 km.. 60 sec fire and very poor concealment.. This is very ugly nerf for 28 000 steel ship.. It is a nerf for all "super cruisers'. Compare the Krohn, Stalin, Alaska and the upcomming Jpn tier X with the poor old silver T9 and TX... You know the cruisers with 40- 50 K HP and high risk of instant death by a good AP hit from these poor "super cruisers" Yo have the HP of a BB, suck up the fire dmg of a BB! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SINT] Jvd2000 Players 1,639 posts 31,137 battles Report post #13287 Posted January 17, 2019 Just now, 1MajorKoenig said: The Hood Buff I like. But they forgot PEF ffs Well WG took their time for a Dunkerque buff..so maybe around 2021 a PEF buff? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[FTR] zFireWyvern Modder, Alpha Tester 1,879 posts 1,162 battles Report post #13288 Posted January 17, 2019 Hood's sigma buff has been adjusted in the Devblog Reddit thread, it's going from 1.8 to 1.9, not to 2.0 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kerberossa Beta Tester 23 posts 15,361 battles Report post #13289 Posted January 17, 2019 0 cruiser buffs WG operating as usual 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Verdius Beta Tester 1,989 posts 4,247 battles Report post #13290 Posted January 17, 2019 2 hours ago, ColonelPete said: Soviet destroyer Kiev, tier VIII: "Repair Party" consumable has been added to slot with "Smoke Generator": Adding the consumable "Repair Party" will allow for more effective fights with enemy destroyers and make the progression to tier X in this line more logical. I wonder if they'll ever give T8 standard cruisers heal to 'make the progression to TX more logical'. Seriously that is a dumb explanation. Kiev was already strong. All of these buff only go to BBs and DDs, no love for cruisers it seems Would have liked some love for my Aosta. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[4_0_4] Zemeritt Players 9,337 posts 16,212 battles Report post #13291 Posted January 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Seiranko said: Torps will be lulzy, but well, I still can't see them as super-useful. Kii isn't like some Mogami that stealth torps. I guess if you get chased by another BB they can be useful. Seems like not many people expect the Kii to have torps. And with 10km, they'll be even more surprised. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,814 battles Report post #13292 Posted January 17, 2019 30 minutes ago, Verdius said: Would have liked some love for my Aosta In amongst the CV patch fest, I think everyone has forgotten the upcoming concealment nerf in 0.8.0, which will make Cruisers' lives even harder. Duca will become a rather large, overgunned, stealth torp machine at this rate.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #13293 Posted January 17, 2019 22 minutes ago, Zemeritt said: I guess if you get chased by another BB they can be useful. Seems like not many people expect the Kii to have torps. And with 10km, they'll be even more surprised. That's actually the best case scenario. It had Tirpitzes trying to catch me and get torped to death. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Toivia Players 4,019 posts 23,883 battles Report post #13294 Posted January 17, 2019 Mostly decent and deserved buffs (sigma and reload buffs on old BBs), quality of life changes (longer torps on DDs) and expected progression (heals on more soviet DDs). I am a bit puzzled by the Kii torps though. The gun reload is fine. But 10km torps on a premium BB? That smells of teamkills... Colorado deserved some buffs when recent US BB buffs ignored it (already had a better heal). Izumo I'm really curious about because that's like the 4th buff it gets in a row. Also makes me sad I struggled in over 200 battles with it when it was crap and I was (more) crap... EDIT: Oh, and the proposed radar changes are probably fine, depends how long the delay for team spotting is set. And lastly, glad to have it (re)confirmed the 60 second fire duration is planned for all high tier large/super - cruisers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRITS] Origin47 Beta Tester 434 posts 10,685 battles Report post #13295 Posted January 18, 2019 I would have liked an improvement of Kii's dispersion/accuracy, not torps........ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ADRIA] Ysterpyp Players 1,490 posts 25,846 battles Report post #13296 Posted January 18, 2019 WeeGee trying to make Missouri the worst BB iowa/izumo buffs , radar nerf, its because of economy and i payed real money for her , Not impressed!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SNUBS] Bademeister02 Beta Tester 110 posts 3,805 battles Report post #13297 Posted January 18, 2019 "French battleship Dunkerque, tier VI: Main Battery reload time reduced from 28 to 26 seconds" Muhaha! Thank you WG, now there is even more reason to play my beloved baguette! As an additonal buff i suggest you put some extra armour on the bow so i can tank them pesky 38cm shells. Then there will finally be nothing i am afraid of anymore. Well except carriers 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] josykay Players 711 posts Report post #13298 Posted January 18, 2019 13 hours ago, Comodoro_Allande said: The first ones they announced: -Mahan gets 3,3 seconds reload (from 4) -Sims base torps get 7 km range (from 5,5). Alternative torps get 10,5 km range (from 9,2), 9667 damage (from 8500) and 76 seconds reload (from 72) -Aigle gets 8km torps (from 7) -Dunkerque gets 26 seconds base reload (from 28) So, why did PEF get only 28 seconds again? Its primary strenght is annihilated in 2 weeks. And then... now with Dunkerque being buffed, it leaves her in competition with Mutsu for the spot of the worst ship by far. Speaking of Mutsu, why no love. All IJN BBs got some love... why not her. Give it the buff like Ashitaka... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SINT] Jvd2000 Players 1,639 posts 31,137 battles Report post #13299 Posted January 18, 2019 17 minutes ago, josykay said: So, why did PEF get only 28 seconds again? Its primary strenght is annihilated in 2 weeks. And then... now with Dunkerque being buffed, it leaves her in competition with Mutsu for the spot of the worst ship by far. Speaking of Mutsu, why no love. All IJN BBs got some love... why not her. Give it the buff like Ashitaka... Dunk has more problems then the PEF and this 2 sec reload buff is not changing much in her favor... And the reload of 28 secs for PEF is not really here primary strenght in the first place..Not with Fuso also having 28 sec reload for 12 larger calibre guns.. PEF strenght is that is has some good and some avarage stats without really downsides. Good speed, secondaries, AA, not the worst armor, ok-ish reload for the number of guns, nice accuracy...its the total package.. Compare that with the Dunk before you complain about the PEF. Mutsu just trades a lot for her strong calibre and the gimmick torps...maybe to much but that is something you should think about before buying her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] josykay Players 711 posts Report post #13300 Posted January 18, 2019 You mean, much better shell behavior, higher penetration, way stronger HE shells, better turret layout. Faster. And secondaries at tier 6 have a dubious value. Same for AA next week. And a vessel, that is bad at shooting stuff in a game about shooting stuff, is just unfun. And I know, what you get with Mutsu, and that she is bad. I bought her primary for being a pre rework Nagato. It justis odd, that nearly all IJN BBs got buffs to make them more viable. Except for Mutsu, even though she is tier for tier the worst. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
