[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #13101 Posted January 2, 2019 18 minutes ago, Loran_Battle said: Wait, but I can remember it being explained as it works right now? 16 minutes ago, ForlornSailor said: I didnt want to say it, but I remember this aswell! At 1:15. So either S_O meant that they fixed a bug but created another one in the process, is mistaken or they're ing us over. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,274 battles Report post #13102 Posted January 2, 2019 13 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: At 1:15. So either S_O meant that they fixed a bug but created another one in the process, is mistaken or they're ing us over. I think they are using a made up argument to screw us over. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BONUS] Bellegar Beta Tester 1,866 posts Report post #13103 Posted January 2, 2019 2 hours ago, El2aZeR said: At 1:15. So either S_O meant that they fixed a bug but created another one in the process, is mistaken or they're ing us over. Let's try to summon @Sub_Octavian, @Tuccy, @MrConway or @Crysantos and ask them directly. I'm really curious what they'll have to say about this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,814 battles Report post #13104 Posted January 2, 2019 8 hours ago, Robber_Baron said: Goodbye RN DDs, it was fun while it lasted. Well, no, just stop firing for a bit longer than before, hit smoke, commence firing again. RN DDs are nippy enough to be able to cope with being a bit more visible. I suspect this may be a gentle nerf to them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humorpalanta ∞ Players 2,025 posts 13,785 battles Report post #13105 Posted January 2, 2019 2 hours ago, invicta2012 said: Well, no, just stop firing for a bit longer than before, hit smoke, commence firing again. RN DDs are nippy enough to be able to cope with being a bit more visible. I suspect this may be a gentle nerf to them. Its about fading smoke. You have to stop shooting 20 sec before it fades else you will be spotted when it fades. How long RN smoke again? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DK-CP] NothingButTheRain Players 6,338 posts 14,251 battles Report post #13106 Posted January 2, 2019 12 minutes ago, Humorpalanta said: Its about fading smoke. You have to stop shooting 20 sec before it fades else you will be spotted when it fades. How long RN smoke again? About 45 seconds Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,814 battles Report post #13107 Posted January 2, 2019 Given that RN DDs accelerate like a ferret leaving a sack I still don't see the problem. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PFFC] MRGTB [PFFC] Players 1,285 posts Report post #13108 Posted January 2, 2019 20 minutes ago, invicta2012 said: Given that RN DDs accelerate like a ferret leaving a sack I still don't see the problem. Well if you have to stop shooting 20 seconds before the smoke fades now, and smoke only last 45 seconds with RN DD's. That means you only get 25 seconds firing time in smoke. Not even that, because you tend to hit smoke and then full engine reverse, so you waste at least 5 seconds stopping the ship first in smoke. So you might get 20 seconds out the smoke at best. That only makes the smoke for RN DD's useful for stopping in for a few seconds, nothing more than that really. So is this the case right now? That if you don't stop shooting 20 seconds before the smoke fades you'll get spotted leaving it. Because I shoot in smoke till the last second runs out for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,814 battles Report post #13109 Posted January 2, 2019 Personally, I don't always shoot in smoke. The RN DDs are so manoeuvrable, and have such quick acceleration, that you can do that with little risk. This change doesn't stop that being any less viable than it is in a Russian DD where your speed is key... people will adapt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capra76 Players 5,001 posts 7,787 battles Report post #13110 Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) 18 hours ago, invicta2012 said: Personally, I don't always shoot in smoke. The RN DDs are so manoeuvrable, and have such quick acceleration, that you can do that with little risk. This change doesn't stop that being any less viable than it is in a Russian DD where your speed is key... people will adapt. Just a quick question that I hope you can help me with, but are you the same Invicta2012 as this one *edited* Edited January 3, 2019 by Nebiros_1 Naming & Shaming 2 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[OCTO] Zen71_sniper [OCTO] Players 1,268 posts 36,598 battles Report post #13111 Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) *Edited* Edited January 4, 2019 by Nebiros_1 Naming & Shaming Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,814 battles Report post #13112 Posted January 3, 2019 6 hours ago, Capra76 said: I only ask 'cos you speak like you know what you're talking about, but if you are one and the same you should probably stop posting on here and concentrate on breathing in and out. I do concentrate on my breathing, it's true. It stops me going off into drama queen mode every time there's a change to the game. Shall we try and disagree constructively? It makes everything much nicer if we do. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humorpalanta ∞ Players 2,025 posts 13,785 battles Report post #13113 Posted January 3, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, invicta2012 said: I do concentrate on my breathing, it's true. It stops me going off into drama queen mode every time there's a change to the game. Shall we try and disagree constructively? It makes everything much nicer if we do. Of course you don't care about the change *Edited* in the game. It's like me and darts. I don't care what they change in darts because I can't play it well and never will. Edited January 3, 2019 by Nebiros_1 Edited due to provocation 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[R_N_G] Alesandro Players 1,058 posts 11,994 battles Report post #13114 Posted January 3, 2019 GJ WG please more help for all the damm crybabys who cant shoot into smoke and good bye RN DD and CL. Will I get a refund for all my smoke ships ? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humorpalanta ∞ Players 2,025 posts 13,785 battles Report post #13115 Posted January 3, 2019 Great job again WG. You guys spend so much money on banning and editing out us that you could hire actual PR guys to HELP YOU COMMUNICATE and UNDERSTAND your players! Nowadays every comment and thread is edited if there is a tiny bit of criticism in it. What is the point of coming here anyways? You don't give a crap about us. We are not RU forum or reddit. Member that it was originally called "Interesting info from RU forum"? There was a reason. Guess what happened to the original title. You guys edited it. Old russian habits never die. You don't like someone's opinion? -> Siberia. Thanks for letting me know that I don't belong. FFs read back the threads. Edits everywhere. Edit this out. I'm not coming here again. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capra76 Players 5,001 posts 7,787 battles Report post #13116 Posted January 3, 2019 11 hours ago, invicta2012 said: Shall we try and disagree constructively? It makes everything much nicer if we do. Well, I guess my point is that you're not a very good DD player so when you say that not being able to shoot from smoke isn't a problem I think it's only fair that other readers of the forum are aware that you don't know what you're talking about. So, constructively, when better players than you say it is a problem perhaps you should listen to them, it might help you to improve. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BRITS] fallenkezef [BRITS] Players 1,788 posts 1,954 battles Report post #13117 Posted January 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, Humorpalanta said: Great job again WG. You guys spend so much money on banning and editing out us that you could hire actual PR guys to HELP YOU COMMUNICATE and UNDERSTAND your players! Nowadays every comment and thread is edited if there is a tiny bit of criticism in it. What is the point of coming here anyways? You don't give a crap about us. We are not RU forum or reddit. Member that it was originally called "Interesting info from RU forum"? There was a reason. Guess what happened to the original title. You guys edited it. Old russian habits never die. You don't like someone's opinion? -> Siberia. Thanks for letting me know that I don't belong. FFs read back the threads. Edits everywhere. Edit this out. I'm not coming here again. Siberia is a recent Russian habit. The old Russian habits in regards to dissent from the serfs was to simply execute them. Russia has a history far longer than the soviet era. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Culiacan_Mexico Players 2,844 posts 14,993 battles Report post #13118 Posted January 3, 2019 19 hours ago, invicta2012 said: ...people will adapt. Why change in the first place? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-TPF-] invicta2012 Players 6,382 posts 26,814 battles Report post #13119 Posted January 3, 2019 27 minutes ago, Culiacan_Mexico said: Why change in the first place? Well, either the fix is a mistake, or there's something about the 3s/limited detection rule in place which wasn't what was intended. Did it let larger ships fire and drop off detection too early? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,274 battles Report post #13120 Posted January 3, 2019 54 minutes ago, fallenkezef said: Siberia is a recent Russian habit. The old Russian habits in regards to dissent from the serfs was to simply execute them. Russia has a history far longer than the soviet era. But the history all boils down to suppression of opinion and persecution of others. Russia was built with a totalitarian mindset, from the Mongol conquest until now. And before the conquest there was no Russia but the principalities. 10 minutes ago, invicta2012 said: Well, either the fix is a mistake, or there's something about the 3s/limited detection rule in place which wasn't what was intended. We will most likely never know, as the party line is that it is a bug. Well, for a bug it was one that really improved the game. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #13121 Posted January 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, Aragathor said: We will most likely never know, as the party line is that it is a bug. Well, for a bug it was one that really improved the game. That awkward moment where bugs make for better changes to the game than the entire dev team working at a problem for 2 years. RIP detection RIP citpens on BBs for 2 glorious weeks 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOFTC] Pikkozoikum Players 7,658 posts 13,680 battles Report post #13122 Posted January 3, 2019 On 12/31/2018 at 9:37 AM, Darth_Glorious said: RN bomber animation is better than other nations, more like rocket armed planes one than dive bombers one. That's why I said RN CV is easy mode compared to other nations CVs. The only downside is that all their squads have max 9 planes. Reveal hidden contents Do you know, if those bombers have the heal as well? Could imagine, that they don't have it, since they don't have to dive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Culiacan_Mexico Players 2,844 posts 14,993 battles Report post #13123 Posted January 4, 2019 5 hours ago, invicta2012 said: 1. Well, either the fix is a mistake, 2. or there's something about the 3s/limited detection rule in place which wasn't what was intended. Did it let larger ships fire and drop off detection too early? 1. If it was a mistake, then they should fix it; but since this seem to have been previously presented it as a feature... 2. Then wouldn't this fall under "players will adapt" if there left things as they are now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #13124 Posted January 4, 2019 11 hours ago, Pikkozoikum said: Do you know, if those bombers have the heal as well? Could imagine, that they don't have it, since they don't have to dive. They have heal as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOFTC] Pikkozoikum Players 7,658 posts 13,680 battles Report post #13125 Posted January 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Darth_Glorious said: They have heal as well. Hmm ,well the US have pretty strong rockets, so maybe RN should get pretty strong bombers, idk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites