Discussion thread for "some interesting info around the world"

[NothingButTheRain]

9 hours ago, eliastion said:

what do you consider teamplay from DDs?

Spot lots. And spot long. Spot long enough so I can swing my guns around and take a good aim at them. Shooting a target at the right moment results in significant amount of more damage. But to me the most important thing a DD can do is to spot lots and spot long. Also helps as they can spot (and more easily outmanoeuvre) incoming torps.

 

But I consider spotting even more important than capping. I'd cap in anything if I am given the opportunity. So help me create and take these opportunities 

[Admiral_H_Nelson]

1 hour ago, Youti_Dieu_du_SC said:

New collection

 

 

Other picture in Source : https://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/1146048.html

Ice Hockey players in WoWS now!

 

What the puck is going on?

[FooFaFie]

And this one. Will it only speak Russian or will we have English too this time?

 

According to the press release, these four commanders are “one that can serve with the US fleet, one for Soviet vessels and two unique ones. These two extra special commanders will be dual-nation, a first for World of Warships, meaning players can easily switch between Soviet and US fleets with a single commander.”

 

So again. Does he speak English or not?  The Dasha commander was a little dissapointed  in that sense. 

[Daxeno]

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[NothingButTheRain]

On 3-10-2018 at 12:26 PM, Panocek said:

And Monarch is boat for pacifists, because it refuses to hit stuff. Top it off with lol 18km range, subpar AP compared to other 15" armed battleboats, HE which isn't exactly improvement over 14" KGV/DoY, meh speed of 28kts, the lowest hp pool and abysmal firing arcs.

 

But hey, in return she gets 25s reload, so you get more dices to throw and topkek 10.9km detection. So you can stalk camo lacking cruisers in BB. And maybe blap them once a month instead embarasing yourself with dispersion

With Monarch you need to get close and make full use of its detection range.

The range was pretty bad, so I used spotter planes.

I kinda liked Monarch. I performed with Monarch as well as most of my other tier 8 BBs, including damage done each game. You need to be in the face and with HE enemy angling doesn't matter.

Blap them with all you got and keep blapping, cloak when you're in trouble and hope you don't get permaspotted by enemy DD. If so, pop your spotter planes.

[puxflacet]

2 hours ago, FooFaFie said:

And this one. Will it only speak Russian or will we have English too this time?

 

According to the press release, these four commanders are “one that can serve with the US fleet, one for Soviet vessels and two unique ones. These two extra special commanders will be dual-nation, a first for World of Warships, meaning players can easily switch between Soviet and US fleets with a single commander.”

 

So again. Does he speak English or not?  The Dasha commander was a little dissapointed  in that sense. 

where is :facepalm reaction when you need it?

[piet11111]

16 minutes ago, puxflacet said:

where is :facepalm reaction when you need it?

This one ?

[Hades_warrior]

On 10/3/2018 at 10:47 PM, El2aZeR said:

So I guess you and all other potatoes complaining about CVs is equally worthless, no?

Yap, we are all potatos for you and your type. *edited

Goodbye.

 

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So it looks like the Great Eight will be available in 4 versions for russian AND US-ships:

 

https://www.rt.com/sport/440216-ovechkin-online-game-warship-commander/

Hockey players as commanders in WoWS (). Yap this is exactly what we need in this game, not balancing the game.

[El2aZeR]

2 minutes ago, Hades_warrior said:

Yap, we are all potatos for you and your type. 

 

Once again avoiding the point, I see.

Not that it's unexpected ofc.

 

4 minutes ago, Hades_warrior said:

Hockey players as commanders in WoWS (). Yap this is exactly what we need in this game, not balancing the game.

 

The marketing team isn't staffed by the same people as the game design & balancing team. Doing one thing doesn't exclude doing the other.

[Kartoffelmos]

17 hours ago, Hades_warrior said:

Yap, we are all potatos for you and your type. *edited

Goodbye.

 

So you went from "but muh feelings" to "stop posting off topic or I'll ignore" and now you're throwing insults after a moderator cleaned up the whole mess.

Classy.

 

As for the US/Russian commander, I don't really mind: the non-hockey commanders are normal-looking and hopefully the voice-acting will be decent. I'm slightly disappointed that, all things being equal, the commander will have a noteworthy impact when used on destroyers though (compared to stuff like Expert Loader and Expert Marksman). Then again, 500 extra HP at tier X is roughly one shell hit so it shouldn't be that big of a deal.

[Hades_warrior]

20 minutes ago, Kartoffelmos said:

 and now you're throwing insults after a moderator cleaned up the whole mess.

Classy.

First of all, I didnt see any moderator involment here but only my notification list spammed with this compliments on potato term.

Second of all, did I start with this insults? Nope. But I sure wont close my eyes on them. Im the guy who hit back 3x harder if someone really wanna go via that road (unless moderators do their job before me).

 

And btw how the moderator cleaned if there are still provoking post's here, and not started by me...

 

Like I said, Hockey players are just what we needed in broken game.

 

EDIT: There. my Ignore list is richer for 4-5 new members. Cheers.

EOD

[Capra76]

7 hours ago, NothingButTheRain said:

Spot lots. And spot long. Spot long enough so I can swing my guns around and take a good aim at them. Shooting a target at the right moment results in significant amount of more damage. But to me the most important thing a DD can do is to spot lots and spot long. Also helps as they can spot (and more easily outmanoeuvre) incoming torps.

 

But I consider spotting even more important than capping. I'd cap in anything if I am given the opportunity. So help me create and take these opportunities 

If you think that's what DD should be doing then why don't you do it yourself?

 

Play a few hundred DD games at T8-10 as a spotter and let me know how that works out for you.

[Hades_warrior]

2 minutes ago, Capra76 said:

If you think that's what DD should be doing then why don't you do it yourself?

 

Play a few hundred DD games at T8-10 as a spotter and let me know how that works out for you.

In current meta with radars on every corner and DD hunters like Noobcester, im sure its hard to play them. But Minotaur is harder to play as he is one big floating citadel-big sized DD.

[Capra76]

10 minutes ago, Hades_warrior said:

In current meta with radars on every corner and DD hunters like Noobcester, im sure its hard to play them. But Minotaur is harder to play as he is one big floating citadel-big sized DD.

 

The question is not whether it's hard to play them, the question is why NBTR thinks DD players are there to be spotting drones for him whilst he sits 10 km behind the front line.

[NothingButTheRain]

36 minutes ago, Capra76 said:

If you think that's what DD should be doing then why don't you do it yourself?

 

Play a few hundred DD games at T8-10 as a spotter and let me know how that works out for you.

I was asked what I would consider teamplay. I answered him what I would consider teamplay.

I also explained to him why I think this would be benefitial to the team.

It helps (especially at the start of a match) to know where the enemies main body is heading towards.

 

Now what I consider what a DD should do is a bit different answer to a different question.

38 minutes ago, Hades_warrior said:

In current meta with radars on every corner and DD hunters like Noobcester, im sure its hard to play them. But Minotaur is harder to play as he is one big floating citadel-big sized DD.

24 minutes ago, Capra76 said:

 

The question is not whether it's hard to play them, the question is why NBTR thinks DD players are there to be spotting drones for him whilst he sits 10 km behind the front line.

No it was not. The question was this here:

17 hours ago, eliastion said:

what do you consider teamplay from DDs?

Capra76, you don't need to go make this personal. And I do actually acqknowledge that DD players are humans. Not drones 

 

But no matter the class, intel is essential for a team as a whole. It always was a prime element in warfare.

 

Btw, sitting still is ill-adviced, for most situations.

[ForlornSailor]

14 minutes ago, NothingButTheRain said:

Capra76, you don't need to go make this personal.

 

Once you get to know him more: its the only way he knows how to "discuss". He has a problem bringing up facts and has a huge problem admitting, when he is wrong (or even acknowledging, that other people dont agree with his views). His views are also completly biased towards one class - which is once again obvious.

[Humorpalanta]

1 hour ago, Capra76 said:

 

The question is not whether it's hard to play them, the question is why NBTR thinks DD players are there to be spotting drones for him whilst he sits 10 km behind the front line.

I play every class (not CV) and I agree with him. DDs have to spot. BBs are vulnerable for torpedoes and DDs that don't spot for BBs that pushed with them are disgusting.

Though there are some certain ships which don't fall under the rule I still think that this is the optimal. Cruisers 4-5 km behind DDs, BBs 4-5 km behind cruisers. That space gives them all space to manouver but also comfortable to disengage.

[Toivia]

The problem with cruisers 5kms behind DDs and BBs 5kms behind all that is that cruisers get blapped by enemy BBs. That is simply untenable.

BBs must be very close to DDs that spot for them. Cruisers sit safely behind (or around those BBs) and support, cause they are the support class. That also allows BBs to tank, which is their freaking job.

[HaachamaShipping]

Ideally, most cruisers are as far away from DDs as is necessary to make any enemy DD that could be spotting the cruisers likely spotted by the friendly DD. e.g. Chapa could follow a DD by 5 km, given even a Kagero would have to first let itself get detected before it would spot the Chapayev. BBs follow maybe 1-3 km behind that, which for concealment specced ships allows similar comfort, while secondary specced ships or other absurdities can follow closer to the DD (after all, you already gave up pretenses of subtlety when sacrificing concealment for close quarters fun). This would spacing would be most effective in DD scouting, would keep both DDs and BBs easily within the cruiser's defAA bubble, keeps cruisers close enough to shoot up whatever the DD spots and allows cruisers to easily rochade with BBs, if necessary, once enemies were found and the engagement begins, so the squishies are behind the heavies. Ideally...

[Randschwimmer]

I have no problems spotting for my team in my DD.

But it is little rewarding. Rewards in Wows are mostly based on doing damage.

Give the spotting (and capping) ships more rewards for doing this and teamplay for our big brothers will be better.

[NothingButTheRain]

2 hours ago, Randschwimmer said:

I have no problems spotting for my team in my DD.

But it is little rewarding. Rewards in Wows are mostly based on doing damage.

Give the spotting (and capping) ships more rewards for doing this and teamplay for our big brothers will be better.

I fully agree with you.

Or at least it seems more rewarding to farm damage as it is less risky that way, correct?

[Randschwimmer]

Vor 1 Stunde, NothingButTheRain sagte:

I fully agree with you.

Or at least it seems more rewarding to farm damage as it is less risky that way, correct?

Your probably right, depends on DD.

[tajj7]

16 hours ago, Humorpalanta said:

BBs that pushed with them

 

So 99% of the time DDs don't need to spot then, because BBs do not push, they camp at the back and usually turn away at the first sign of the enemy. 

 

I agree that DDs should spot if a BB comes with them and supports them, I try to do that in my Missouri and more often than not the DD abandons me, like like last night where I supported two our DDs pushing a cap. I then radared the DD that was capping the flag for them, blapped that guy for half his HP and he died, but I then got targetted by 5 enemy ships and was getting wrecked by several cruisers behind islands.

What did those two DDs do? They sat in their smoke next to me and used me to spot for them whilst I got focused down and died.

 

The chances of getting a competent player in a DD when you push in a BB, and vice versa is too slim to make it worth it either way IMO, 9/10 those people around you will let you down so you might as well just play it safe. 

[Ulvesnutepostei]

"I dont know what I want but I want it now"

 

Key to teamplay no matter what class is communication, if you dont communicate the rest prolly wont either ... if you start a conversation the chance of others joining in is far greater

 

Focus fire on Yamato is a good example

Spot H3 please etc etc 

 

Short messages and to the point works 

[Aragathor]

Just watched Notsers 0.7.10 final ships video.

Damn, Le Terrible is really terrible. No smoke, no heal, bad stealth. Wow. What a winner.