[HMSR] Major_Damage225 Beta Tester 2,875 posts 7,295 battles Report post #11551 Posted September 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, DFens_666 said: We will never have submarines in WoWs... oh wait 2019 year of the subs. Well since they cant get the ''year of the cv'' thing done right they went with the next best thing in theyr view 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOATY] Lord_Holland_of_Wessex Players 316 posts 11,028 battles Report post #11552 Posted September 20, 2018 6 hours ago, Yedwy said: We sholdnt take out pirchforks right away, what if u buy them with coal? What's the exchange rate for Coal to Pitchforks? 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Verdius Beta Tester 1,989 posts 4,247 battles Report post #11553 Posted September 21, 2018 8 hours ago, JaaZZEe said: super consumables added to ST Considering this is on a test ship and it doesn't even have a normal name isn't it a bit early to assume that it is a new tier of OP consumable? Perhaps they are trying out different reload boosters and see which version works best on Bourgogne? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Toivia Players 4,019 posts 23,935 battles Report post #11554 Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Verdius said: Considering this is on a test ship and it doesn't even have a normal name isn't it a bit early to assume that it is a new tier of OP consumable? Perhaps they are trying out different reload boosters and see which version works best on Bourgogne? And different versions of a fighter plane? And heal? And speed boost? And damage control? Nono, time to panic full time. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,322 battles Report post #11555 Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Verdius said: Considering this is on a test ship and it doesn't even have a normal name isn't it a bit early to assume that it is a new tier of OP consumable? Perhaps they are trying out different reload boosters and see which version works best on Bourgogne? Good thing Sub_Octavian has shed some light on the new consumables: Looks to me that they are testing permanent consumables. You buy them once with doubloons/coal/steel and then you can assign them to ships in your port. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #11556 Posted September 21, 2018 3 hours ago, Aragathor said: Looks to me that they are testing permanent consumables. You buy them once with doubloons/coal/steel and then you can assign them to ships in your port. Uff. Faith in WG restored - for now. I wonder why they cant communicate such things before. They should know by now, someone will find out, once they add something new to the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #11557 Posted September 21, 2018 Spoiler - T8 Vanguard can be considered as a T8 Nagato with about same accuracy, strengths and weaknesses It can be citadeled very easily if not angled Gun angle and gun traverse time are poor - Compared to Bellerophon, T3 Dreadnought has less range, much better camo (8.7 km with CE), better secondaries (lot of 76 mm fast firing gun with same range) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Aotearas Players 8,460 posts 13,076 battles Report post #11558 Posted September 21, 2018 4 hours ago, Aragathor said: Wait, wait, wait ... hold up right there. Radar rework? Last time I checked WG's stance on radar was '"there is no problemcomrade" *waves hand*'. What radar rework? What are they reworking? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] DFens_666 Players 13,162 posts 11,029 battles Report post #11559 Posted September 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, Aotearas said: What radar rework? What are they reworking? They said something in the anniversary stream (i posted that in the radar megathread) They are working on 2 different things, and the one working better will go live. What they are working on they didnt say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XODUS] JaiFoh Players 799 posts 4,868 battles Report post #11560 Posted September 21, 2018 12 minutes ago, Aotearas said: Wait, wait, wait ... hold up right there. Radar rework? Last time I checked WG's stance on radar was '"there is no problemcomrade" *waves hand*'. What radar rework? What are they reworking? Excuse me while i do a little dance Just make it work like it does in a Cyclone and 90% of DD players will be happy and 90% of Battleship players pissed off as all they see by camping at the back of the map is an icon on their mini map 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[ZEN] Midway67 Players 142 posts 35,814 battles Report post #11561 Posted September 21, 2018 23 hours ago, FooFaFie said: Is it just me but don't the year 2019 promise to be a wonders year. If you look at all the announcements and rumors you get an believable year. Let see what we will get for end 2018/2019 so far: - Reworked CV-play - Release of RN CVs with the release of reworked CV-play - Submarines. So that means we will get at least 1 submarine tech-tree. My guess the Germans. - New game play to hunt subs - Russian BB-line - Italian tech-tree line - First Dutch ship - First Austria-Hungarian ship 2019 will be a hell of a year even if only 1/2 is true. Looking forward particularly to the first Austro-Hungarian and Dutch ships, the Russian BB-line and the addition of submarines. Will be interesting to see how that turns out! What makes me wonder is how / when / which further CV's will be added to the game. Addition of RN CV's would of course be superb. Yet this would give us an odd number of CV trees, IJN, USN and RN. Plus Graf Zeppelin, as the only German one. However, only recently I learned that Graf Zeppelin was not the only German aircraft carrier, but that there were more being planned-for: there were actally at least 7 others in planning / under consideration : see https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_geplanter_Schiffe_der_Kriegsmarine#Flugzeugträger Enough to fill a 4th CV-tree with? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XODUS] JaiFoh Players 799 posts 4,868 battles Report post #11562 Posted September 21, 2018 39 minutes ago, Midway67 said: Plus Graf Zeppelin, as the only German one. However, only recently I learned that Graf Zeppelin was not the only German aircraft carrier, but that there were more being planned-for: there were actally at least 7 others in planning / under consideration : see https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_geplanter_Schiffe_der_Kriegsmarine#Flugzeugträger Enough to fill a 4th CV-tree with? Theoreticallyhttps://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmarine/zplan/carrier/index.html You could get up to T8 CV line with the Graf's Sister ship as the top of the line. But alot of merely paper drawings, but one real plan from WW1https://www.german-navy.de/hochseeflotte/ships/misc/ausonia/index.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #11563 Posted September 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, JaiFoh said: You could get up to T8 CV line with the Graf's Sister ship as the top of the line. This would be the sucessor to Zepplin. Depending if you find another paper-design to put above, it would be T9 or T10. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joffre-class_aircraft_carrier Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLOBS] Spellfire40 Beta Tester 5,330 posts 13,776 battles Report post #11564 Posted September 21, 2018 4 minutes ago, JaiFoh said: Theoreticallyhttps://www.german-navy.de/kriegsmarine/zplan/carrier/index.html You could get up to T8 CV line with the Graf's Sister ship as the top of the line. But alot of merely paper drawings, but one real plan from WW1https://www.german-navy.de/hochseeflotte/ships/misc/ausonia/index.html Any why top of the line? I you make a line go to T10 it isnt like Rn who has an abanduance of BBs dont have 2 paper ships at t9 and 10? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #11565 Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, Darth_Glorious said: Reveal hidden contents - T8 Vanguard can be considered as a T8 Nagato with about same accuracy, strengths and weaknesses It can be citadeled very easily if not angled Gun angle and gun traverse time are poor - Compared to Bellerophon, T3 Dreadnought has less range, much better camo (8.7 km with CE), better secondaries (lot of 76 mm fast firing gun with same range) Nagato has 2.0 sigma and 41 cm guns at T7 that have good penetration, good damage, ability to overmatch all others at its tier and nuke ships at range. Its angles also aren't bad and while not great, it also had better turret traverse. Vanguard at T8 has 38 cm guns which even if they aren't Hood guns with actual dispersion would not be anything special, as far as I see it. It'd actually be at the very bottom of T8 firepower, compared to Nagato that is towards the top. I don't see how they are really comparable in their "strengths". 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Verdius Beta Tester 1,989 posts 4,247 battles Report post #11566 Posted September 21, 2018 6 hours ago, Aragathor said: Good thing Sub_Octavian has shed some light on the new consumables: Looks to me that they are testing permanent consumables. You buy them once with doubloons/coal/steel and then you can assign them to ships in your port. As long as it is not superior to the regular premium consumable and it is somewhat obtainable (i.e. not behind some massive steel requirement) I don't mind. If this becomes a better version of a consumable available only as a very limited reward or for an obscene doubloon price I'll be starting a pitchfork sharpening service 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #11567 Posted September 21, 2018 16 minutes ago, Verdius said: As long as it is not superior to the regular premium consumable and it is somewhat obtainable (i.e. not behind some massive steel requirement) I don't mind. If this becomes a better version of a consumable available only as a very limited reward or for an obscene doubloon price I'll be starting a pitchfork sharpening service Agreed. Though, from the sound of it, I guess it'll be more like Legendary mods, where you get "sidegrades". I guess for some you'll still get a "best" option, like the damecon with shortest cooldown, given longer duration longer cooldown damecon is terrible (damecon duration imo almost balances itself, as for example 30 second duration would be good for brawls, but 30 second action time means that these are 30 seconds where the CD doesn't start yet). Meanwhile, for others, you could try achieve balance (repair party that heals more for longer cooldown would be an interesting trade-off for example). Obviously, what WG says and what WG does are two different things however. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NAN0] HaachamaShipping Players 8,474 posts 10,052 battles Report post #11568 Posted September 21, 2018 10 minutes ago, FooFaFie said: https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2018/09/20/2-new-flags-for-0-7-9-0-wows/ DMM Games: This is the logo for the DMM Electronics company, which also happens to be the publisher for Kantai Collection. Future collaboration coming soon? Given the captains datamined earlier, it'll not be Kancolle but Oshiro Project more likely. Which is very very strange. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #11569 Posted September 21, 2018 T10 Bourgogne Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PWN3D] Peffers Beta Tester 1,063 posts 22,995 battles Report post #11570 Posted September 21, 2018 1 hour ago, ForlornSailor said: This would be the sucessor to Zepplin. Depending if you find another paper-design to put above, it would be T9 or T10. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joffre-class_aircraft_carrier with 40 planes. The Joffre would more likely be a French CV. Most of these were Merchantman / liner conversions. I suppose that you could have an axis CV and have the Italian Aquila at T10, but still only a light carrier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #11571 Posted September 21, 2018 41 minutes ago, Verdius said: If this becomes a better version of a consumable available only as a very limited reward or for an obscene doubloon price I'll be starting a pitchfork sharpening service And I´ll be right there with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CHEFT] ForlornSailor Players 7,374 posts 11,735 battles Report post #11572 Posted September 21, 2018 13 minutes ago, Peffers said: with 40 planes. With the rework, number of planes doesnt matter anymore. Independece has 9999 planes. Per type. 15 minutes ago, Peffers said: I suppose that you could have an axis CV and have the Italian Aquila at T10, but still only a light carrier. Since we have german & italian lines already, Axis wouldnt make sense. 16 minutes ago, Peffers said: The Joffre would more likely be a French CV. Since the III.Reich took control over Joffre and had planes to finish it, there is enough justification to put it in a german tree. There was a sister of Joffre planned - Painlevé - that could be used for a possible french CV tree. And WG saves work. win-win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[T-N-T] Toivia Players 4,019 posts 23,935 battles Report post #11573 Posted September 21, 2018 8 hours ago, Aragathor said: Good thing Sub_Octavian has shed some light on the new consumables: Looks to me that they are testing permanent consumables. You buy them once with doubloons/coal/steel and then you can assign them to ships in your port. "We would like to add more variety, reduce the economic load for most players and make free options more viable." That sounds quite like the better non-free options will no longer be accessible by a regular player. I'm not lowering my pitchforks yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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[T-N-T] Toivia Players 4,019 posts 23,935 battles Report post #11575 Posted September 21, 2018 Yeah, was watching Flamu's stream and Bourgogne definitely is very strong (seems like a candidate for another Steel ship, at this point). On the other hand, he sure didn't have much luck with Jean Bart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites