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[aleksi111]

1 minute ago, DFens_666 said:

hey could always introduce some different hydro only working below water.

That's actually an interesting Idea, but I see two problems:

1. The average player 
2. How would it interact with Torpedoes ( point 1. & spoiler)

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Lastly, If every DD and Every Cruiser comes with Hydro, then that's going to adversely affect DD's also as their torpedoes, aimed at BB get spotted by another DD hunting a DD that might or might not even be there, thus actually nerfing torpedoes even further

 

[Verdius]

36 minutes ago, Milckenbom said:

I know WOWs Blitz isn't WOWS; And I know our devs have nothing to do with Blitz. But they got the Ise now

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I've been waiting for Ise and Tone for WoWs since CBT and I was getting excited when I saw WoWs and Ise in the same sentence.
Unfortunately it is not to be. 

Also I would imagine the new CV mechanics would make a hybrid ship way harder to pull off since you can't control your normal ship at the same time.

[HaachamaShipping]

1 minute ago, Verdius said:

ST. Consumables.

“Hydroacoustic search” has been unified for all ships that have this consumable. Similar changes are going to be added for a “Smoke Generator” on every American ship. Now it’s way easier to memorize all these parameters and calculate their effect in a battle.

This is the list of the new parameters:

Default HAS: for ships tier IV-Vll - 4 km for ship detection range and 3 km for torpedoes detection range; for ships tier Vlll - X - 5 and 3.5 km relatively.
German HAS: for ships tier IV-Vll – 5.5 km for ship detection range and 3.75 km for torpedoes detection range; for ships tier Vlll - X - 6 and 4 km relatively.
“Smoke Generator” for all American ships – 30 seconds.

Please note that the information in the Development Blog is preliminary.

So, will Bismarck get the 5 km or 6 km? Also, looks like a Loyang nerf.

[Major_Damage225]

If Tone and Ise get somehow shoohorned into the game it would be a interesting playstyle, one minute your a regular ship blasting away, then you have to disengage to find cover when using the aircraft capability of the reworked CV gameplay 

BB with rocket aircraft anyone? 

[elblancogringo]

1 hour ago, aleksi111 said:

That's actually an interesting Idea, but I see two problems:

1. The average player 
2. How would it interact with Torpedoes ( point 1. & spoiler)

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Lastly, If every DD and Every Cruiser comes with Hydro, then that's going to adversely affect DD's also as their torpedoes, aimed at BB get spotted by another DD hunting a DD that might or might not even be there, thus actually nerfing torpedoes even further

 

There is already the "proximity spotting" of surface ships. You always spot ships that are less than 2 kms from you. Why introducing a below water hydro?? 

Just keep the same proximity spotting mechanic for subs, tuning the distance if needed.

Like submarines always have to stay at least x kms away from any ship otherwise they are spotted (basic concealment value). 3km at periscopic depth, 2 kms while totally submerged.

[SparvieroVV]

On 9/18/2018 at 8:45 AM, Verdius said:

https://venturebeat.com/2018/09/18/why-wargaming-is-disrupting-world-of-warships-with-submarines-and-revamped-aircraft-carriers/

Apparently Italy is not a major naval nation according to WG (USSR obviously is though, they already announced a BB line for next year)

 

From what an NA user stated WG had their buttocks handed to them by the archives. So I guess they are taking their ball and going home. 

[Verdius]

19 minutes ago, Riselotte said:

So, will Bismarck get the 5 km or 6 km? Also, looks like a Loyang nerf.

 

We don't know for sure but I hope she will not get the german hydro.
Same for Z-23. Can you imagine Z-23 with 6km hydro at T8?

[DFens_666]

2 minutes ago, Verdius said:

Same for Z-23. Can you imagine Z-23 with 6km hydro at T8?

 

Sure WG can

[HaachamaShipping]

Just now, Verdius said:

 

We don't know for sure but I hope she will not get the german hydro.
Same for Z-23. Can you imagine Z-23 with 6km hydro at T8?

I mean, it's unbalanced. But given the sledgehammer approach to unifying consumable stats, you think this is going to be without issues?

[fumtu]

28 minutes ago, Verdius said:

 

I've been waiting for Ise and Tone for WoWs since CBT and I was getting excited when I saw WoWs and Ise in the same sentence.
Unfortunately it is not to be. 

Also I would imagine the new CV mechanics would make a hybrid ship way harder to pull off since you can't control your normal ship at the same time.

 

I doubt that Tone will ever have some strike potential with its planes. Depending on how WG implement fighter mechanic, like some sort of consumable, Tone could have same fighter squadron as CV. Maybe even additional spotter plane to that.

[Toivia]

9 minutes ago, elblancogringo said:

There is already the "proximity spotting" of surface ships. You always spot ships that are less than 2 kms from you. Why introducing a below water hydro?? 

Just keep the same proximity spotting mechanic for subs, tuning the distance if needed.

Like submarines always have to stay at least x kms away from any ship otherwise they are spotted (basic concealment value). 3km at periscopic depth, 2 kms while totally submerged.

Obviously proximity spoting remains. But that is nowhere near enough to fight potential subs.

Unless everybody gets RPF and all subs are as slow as in real life, DDs (primarily, but perhaps also cruisers) need a way to hunt them.

 

Now as to the Hydro changes: Im not really against that, it is annoying remembering exactly which hydro outspots yours and vice versa. However many questions arise:

1) KM DDs were using normal hydro up until and including Tier 9, does that remain? (It'd mean 4km for Tier 6-7, 5km for Tier 8-9 and still 6km for Tier 10.)

2) KM BBs, similar situation, only Tier 9 and 10 had german hydro. Guess it would go 4km for Bis, 5,5km for Friedrich and 6km for Kurfurst?

3) Lo Yang, I hope, is included in this. And it should no longer out-hydro german DDs of same or higher tier.

[fumtu]

30 minutes ago, Verdius said:

German HAS: for ships tier IV-Vll – 5.5 km for ship detection range and 3.75 km for torpedoes detection range; for ships tier Vlll - X - 6 and 4 km relatively

 

Does this mean a buff to T61 too. Well It kinda need it.

[ForlornSailor]

41 minutes ago, Riselotte said:

So, will Bismarck get the 5 km or 6 km?

 

21 minutes ago, Verdius said:

We don't know for sure but I hope she will not get the german hydro.
Same for Z-23. Can you imagine Z-23 with 6km hydro at T8?

 

The text is very clear on that. Or WG has problems communicating again.

 

41 minutes ago, Riselotte said:

“Hydroacoustic search” has been unified for all ships that have this consumable.

Thats means Yes for Bismarck 6km, Yes for Z-23.

[HaachamaShipping]

9 minutes ago, Toivia said:

Obviously proximity spoting remains. But that is nowhere near enough to fight potential subs.

Unless everybody gets RPF and all subs are as slow as in real life, DDs (primarily, but perhaps also cruisers) need a way to hunt them.

 

Now as to the Hydro changes: Im not really against that, it is annoying remembering exactly which hydro outspots yours and vice versa. However many questions arise:

1) KM DDs were using normal hydro up until and including Tier 9, does that remain? (It'd mean 4km for Tier 6-7, 5km for Tier 8-9 and still 6km for Tier 10.)

2) KM BBs, similar situation, only Tier 9 and 10 had german hydro. Guess it would go 4km for Bis, 5,5km for Friedrich and 6km for Kurfurst?

3) Lo Yang, I hope, is included in this. And it should no longer out-hydro german DDs of same or higher tier.

FdG would get the 6 km, as it is T9 German hydro.

 

Also, mind you, British DDs have hydro too, but you won't tell me that 4/5 km is "defensive" anymore.

[HaachamaShipping]

Just now, ForlornSailor said:

 

 

The text is very clear on that. Or WG has problems communicating again.

 

Thats means Yes for Bismarck, Yes for Z-23.

But Bismarck and Z-23 are German, yet don't have German hydro at the moment. This, the speculation on whether it gets Germanised or stays an exception.

[ForlornSailor]

Just now, Riselotte said:

But Bismarck and Z-23 are German, yet don't have German hydro at the moment. This, the speculation on whether it gets Germanised or stays an exception.

 

I know. Thats why I said, if not, WG screwed up communication again. If you look at what they posted, it should be Yes for both.

 

btw - as so many times with buffs, that come out of the blue: who asked for these buffs? Why are they needed? How powerfull is a Z-23 going to be? Imagine a Z-23 in T6-T8 MM. What a day...

[Toivia]

1 minute ago, Riselotte said:

FdG would get the 6 km, as it is T9 German hydro.

 

Also, mind you, British DDs have hydro too, but you won't tell me that 4/5 km is "defensive" anymore.

Right, got confused even in the new ranges...

Frankly if german DDs and BBs keep non-german hydro on lower tiers, only the Tier 10 (or 9-10) should get the better german equivalent. Otherwise it remains a mess anyway. (Disclaimer: I definitely do not condone a nerf to Friedrich der Grosse, that ship instead needs buffs.)

 

And very good point, I hope and assume the RN DDs keep their already unified what-was-it? 3km ship spotting.

[HaachamaShipping]

4 minutes ago, Toivia said:

And very good point, I hope and assume the RN DDs keep their already unified what-was-it? 3km ship spotting.

Nothing was said. And one might say "But the RN DDs aren't introduced yet", however, there already is Haida with "defensive" hydro, so it really is unclear about whether that hydro is affected or not.

[Verdius]

T5 ranked....

With Divisions....

Yes, WG thinks Giulio Cesare, Gremy, and Kamikaze is fine and balanced for ranked especially when divisioned 
Not that I am complaining. Easiest season ever

[Deckeru_Maiku]

9 hours ago, Taliesn said:

 

Expect the first subs to have an air concealment of 2km, powercreeped over time to 1 that will attract half the DD population. Or at the very least those bordering the map on Shimas and not bothering about caps anyway.

And expect most CV players not bothering with them either.

 

I don't expect subs to be of interest to the DD community, except as targets... Way more fun to use Depth charges to hunt them little buggers...

[Humorpalanta]

WTF are they thinking with hydro unification? They just introduced the brits, some with hydro... And balanced them around that...

WG has gone completely insane.

Now they are totally destroying Lo Yang too with its selling point... Blyska has already been thrown out on the window, now Lo Yang goes after it? Freakin BBs getting another buff naturally...

And they wonder why I don't want to spend any money anymore... NOTHING is certain in the game anymore. You are basically throwing mones in a black box...

[Humorpalanta]

Leaked footage from WG HQ:

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[ForlornSailor]

3 minutes ago, Humorpalanta said:

WTF are they thinking with hydro unification? They just introduced the brits, some with hydro... And balanced them around that...

WG has gone completely insane.

Now they are totally destroying Lo Yang too with its selling point... Blyska has already been thrown out on the window, now Lo Yang goes after it? Freakin BBs getting another buff naturally...

And they wonder why I don't want to spend any money anymore... NOTHING is certain in the game anymore. You are basically throwing mones in a black box...

 

Hey, the need more "content", as said in the recent interview. Also, Lo Yang and Blyska are soooo oooold. Need new flavor of the month to keep the sales going.

[Toivia]

Oh come on, Lo Yang out-hydroing german DDs is nonsense. A complete hydro unification is one of the few possible ways to bring a premium ship up to balance at last.

 

And btw. regarding Ise, Tone etc. I agree that the current CV revamp only makes their addition harder. While before you realistically could send planes on autopilot somewhere and meanwhile shoot your guns, only to retake contro of the planes when needed, now they're very hesitant to even give people control of the CV movement itself. Don't take me wrong, the hybrids would be even harder to micromanage under the old RTS system, but currently I'm not sure the control of the hull is even possible. And they definitely aren't going in that direction (in latest video, you couldn't even repair fires on the ship). At this point I wouldn't be surprised if the CVs themselves were off map, only planes flying in with the rest of the team.

[eliastion]

Seems like IJN t8-10 torpboats really needed another kick in the balls. Unified (read: buffed across the board) Hydro should do the trick

No more outspotting of German DDs for you, guys.