Discussion thread for "some interesting info around the world"

[ForlornSailor]

32 minutes ago, Toivia said:

Hmm, 4 out of the 5 get crazy stealth, what the...?

 

The development continues. What we´ve seen over the last two years: BBs get better and better concealment. When do we see the first BB outspotting a DD?

[HaachamaShipping]

21 minutes ago, ForlornSailor said:

 

The development continues. What we´ve seen over the last two years: BBs get better and better concealment. When do we see the first BB outspotting a DD?

Russian BBs, when they go full circle. That or they follow Russian DDs and CAs and thus a Russian BB has a concealment circle going way into the next map.

[puxflacet]

West Virginia caused quite a havoc on NA forum. And I cant blame them. No doubt that the 1944 refit is more interesting (I was always fond of these thick old ladies), but more importantly the whole West Virgina story is about the resurrection. Better save her for this hull and rename the current old Colorados T6 hull premium as "Maryland"

 

[fumtu]

1 hour ago, puxflacet said:

West Virginia caused quite a havoc on NA forum. And I cant blame them. No doubt that the 1944 refit is more interesting (I was always fond of these thick old ladies), but more importantly the whole West Virgina story is about the resurrection. Better save her for this hull and rename the current old Colorados T6 hull premium as "Maryland"

 

 

Is there some US Navy BB that didn't caused an uproar from NA community?

 

Late war West Virginia would be straight better ship than Colorado and in the end to balance her WG would probably lower sigma and nobody would be happy about that. IMO, late war West Virginia should be a regular T7 BB instead of Colorado which would leave current Colorado configuration for premium T7 with better, more accurate, guns but worse AA and open the way to add either late war Tennessee or California as another T7 premium BB with similar AA as West Virginia but with 4x3 14inch guns. I think that that would be way better solution than either giving WV as T6 premium or modernised WV as T7 premium.

[puxflacet]

21 minutes ago, fumtu said:

 

Is there some US Navy BB that didn't caused an uproar from NA community?

 

Late war West Virginia would be straight better ship than Colorado and in the end to balance her WG would probably lower sigma and nobody would be happy about that. IMO, late war West Virginia should be a regular T7 BB instead of Colorado which would leave current Colorado configuration for premium T7 with better, more accurate, guns but worse AA and open the way to add either late war Tennessee or California as another T7 premium BB with similar AA as West Virginia but with 4x3 14inch guns. I think that that would be way better solution than either giving WV as T6 premium or modernised WV as T7 premium.

There are ways. Secondary built Massachussetts-like at T7...or more accurate guns at T8

[fumtu]

Just now, puxflacet said:

There are ways. Secondary built Massachussetts-like at T7...or more accurate guns at T8

 

WV is too slow for T8. Imagine her against T10 ships, with speed of 21kn she would be an easy prey for any ship. She has two less turrets than Mass and that would also mean lower sigma than Colorado so very RNG dependent. I don't see how WG could make her properly balanced compared to Colorado. Colorado is already not the most competitive BB at T7, if you try to balance WV to her she would end as mediocre premium (lot of uproar) but if you try to make VW good premium comparable to Nelson or Sharny you get a straight better ship than Colorado (much less uproar but still not the best way). I personally don't like either option. No doubt WV would be a nice T7 premium only problem is her balance compared with current Colorado.

[creamgravy]

Tier 7 has been powercrept to ****. WV would need a full Lyon/Norm style fantasy refit (28+ knots) or Mass secondaries/heal to be a tiny bit competitive or fun. Colorado needs to move to tier 6.

 

10 hours ago, Comodoro_Allande said:

Wow, Vanguard is a turd. Bismarck leves of horizontal dispersion AT 20 KM with 1,8 Sigma and most likely the RN dispersion pattern, and of top of that a nice 72 seconds turret traverse. Also the longest reload for a 381 mm gun with the least amount=abysmal DPM .  Only saving features are the ridiculous concealment and the rather good AA

 

Vanguard's too big and fragile to fully use the 11km concealment. She needs to snipe from a safe distance to survive, esp with tier 8 MM. Warspite accuracy would do ...but WG will either drop it to tier 7 or add lots of crazy consumables to force it into that 'stealthy' close range BB role.

AA is utterly irrelevant at this point in the games life cycle.

[Robber_Baron]

Wichita with a camouflage scheme she never used. A missed opportunity, just like with plenty of other ships.

 

The same with Vanguard, but she never had any camouflage scheme to begin with and I suppose I'm the only one who likes the looks of plain ships.

[Affeks]

2 minutes ago, Robber_Baron said:

Wichita with a camouflage scheme she never used. A missed opportunity, just like with plenty of other ships.

 

The same with Vanguard, but she never had any camouflage scheme to begin with and I suppose I'm the only one who likes the looks of plain ships.

Yep absolute garbage tier work on that part. 

Just one google search and  they could have found a more than usable historical camouflage...

I bet you that camo with alternative colourscheme would be amazing.

[puxflacet]

11 minutes ago, Robber_Baron said:

The same with Vanguard, but she never had any camouflage scheme to begin with and I suppose I'm the only one who likes the looks of plain ships.

Heres one too! Vanguard is such beautiful ship. That plain white suits her so much...and i was saying million times that there are lot of people who would love to see rust-free, peacetime, showoff paintjobs. (But i certainly dont mean that Stalingrads overthetop skin)

[GarrusBrutus]

Wargaming be like: 

[Verdius]

52 minutes ago, Robber_Baron said:

Wichita with a camouflage scheme she never used. A missed opportunity, just like with plenty of other ships.

 

Call me a cynic but I expect us to see a historically accurate camo in a few months after the ship is released for like 3-4k or whatever ridiculous price T8 prem camos cost in doubloons. Its not a missed opportunity when it comes to milking the playerbase.

Why make the player pay 'only' 40 euros when you can charge them another 10+ for a historical skin on top.

[Panocek]

37 minutes ago, GarrusBrutus said:

Wargaming be like: 

Imagine all the Fletcher premium options. We have 4 now, 171 to go

[Robber_Baron]

6 minutes ago, Verdius said:

 

Call me a cynic but I expect us to see a historically accurate camo in a few months after the ship is released for like 5k or whatever ridiculous price T8 prem camos cost in doubloons. Its not a missed opportunity when it comes to milking the playerbase.

Massachusetts was first equipped with Measure 22 when she was in the supertest, and that one was at least used by one of the class. I don't know if it's available for dubloons?

[ForlornSailor]

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New formula for ranked, Tier 5 and 6, short 2 weeks long seasons, ability to play in divisions.

 

Did I read this right? T5 ranked and you can play in Divisions?

I explain the gif below: Left @DFens_666 in Marblehead, Right me in Cesare.

[_DeathWing_]

 

[Verdius]

As long as it is just for this Halloween mode and maybe some scenarios I don't mind subs too much. In PvP I am not convinced.

In the video they go like 3-4 times as fast underwater as actual WW2 subs would have gone.

[ForlornSailor]

1 minute ago, Verdius said:

In the video they go like 3-4 times as fast underwater as actual WW2 subs would have gone.

 

Late german submarines did 25kn submerged without problems.

[AkosJaccik]

Hello, yes? Wargaming? I'd like to subscribe for the memes, yes.

[Verdius]

15 minutes ago, ForlornSailor said:

 

Late german submarines did 25kn submerged without problems.

You mean the type XVII, but that is only 1 type of sub. And it only had 2 torpedo tubes and could only carry 4 torpeodoes.

The vast majority of subs used by all nations were far slower. Most didn't even reach 10 knots submerged.

[Yedwy]

Make that stock colorado prem Maryland and the upgraded WV can be shoehorned in t8 with a bit of buffing, couse lets face it speed is not of paramount importance to most bb players since they dont move 2 much anyway and 8x16" inch still beat the armament of bizmark, tirpitz, gascogne and richelieu (soon vanguard as well apparently) and are most likely "en par" with Roma and Monarch 9x15" sooo i dont see why that would be an issue if sigma is buffed or say t9 upgrades are made awailable to it...

[EvilBob]

4 minutes ago, Verdius said:

You mean the type XVII, but that is only 1 type of sub.

The vast majority of subs used by all nations were far slower. Most didn't even reach 10 knots submerged.

Also they were tiny subs with many technical problems, not much use beyond being a test bed.

[Verdius]

7 minutes ago, Yedwy said:

Make that stock colorado prem Maryland and the upgraded WV can be shoehorned in t8 with a bit of buffing

 

Don't we already have enough T8 US BBs for now?

[Xevious_Red]

Let's be brutally honest, most of the people that want subs don't hugely care that they won't be historically accurate.

 

Enough stuff already isn't historically accurate - BB accuracy, DD reloading torps etc. Subs moving "too fast" fits with the arcade "It looks like the real thing but it behaves differently"

 

The real question is will the be fun (to play with/against), without being useless/OP, and without rendering another class worthless (looking at you IJN DD)

[Major_Damage225]

This halloween submarine is interesting, mabe WG is going to give the submarine idea a try under the cover of the event, i see a posibility for a operation with submarines here in the future 

 

DD's with a depthcharge comsumable anyone?