[MPT] AkosJaccik Players 920 posts 11,177 battles Report post #9226 Posted March 24, 2018 16 minutes ago, fumtu said: She had 4x4 40mm, what is a reason to half her mid range AA? She isn't a battleship. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #9227 Posted March 24, 2018 8 minutes ago, fumtu said: Helena looks beautiful tho but 6x2 40mm? WTH? She had 6x4 40mm, what is a reason to half her mid range AA? Actually Helena was sunk with 8x2 40mm guns. Her sister St. Louis carried 4x4 + 6x2 40mm guns at the end of the war. Regardless though no idea why her AA gets shafted this way. With her current ingame loadout she has less AA than even Pensacola. Only reason I can think of is to justify putting DD DFAA on US CLs as glorious gimmick™ (which I'd really not be surprised by at all). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #9228 Posted March 24, 2018 23 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: Though range seems too low for T7 tbh. That's pretty much the upper limit on the USN 152mm guns to have any realistic chance of hitting something in motion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #9229 Posted March 24, 2018 Seems like a nice ship. I think it won't surpass Atlanta for pure fun and I doubt Atlanta is powercreeped by this. No radar is huge for anti-dd ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #9230 Posted March 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Nechrom said: That's pretty much the upper limit on the USN 152mm guns to have any realistic chance of hitting something in motion. Depends on whether or not they revert the nerf to their ballistics, though I'm sure I could make 15-16km work even in their current state. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] loppantorkel Players 4,506 posts 15,942 battles Report post #9231 Posted March 24, 2018 I'm keeping my Atlanta range as low as possible for concealment. Works fine and I might do the same for the new light cruisers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HMSR] Major_Damage225 Beta Tester 2,875 posts 7,295 battles Report post #9232 Posted March 24, 2018 Out of all the new ships in the split the Helena peeked my intrest the most, basicly a cleveland with a extra turret, after seeing the specs it's a must have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #9233 Posted March 24, 2018 22 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: Actually Helena was sunk with 8x2 40mm guns. Her sister St. Louis carried 4x4 + 6x2 40mm guns at the end of the war.. Not sure what is your source for this. Osprey publication gives 4 quad 40mm Bofors guns as her final configuration. I made mistake with 6x4 it was actually a 4x4. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,322 battles Report post #9234 Posted March 24, 2018 It is clear to me that the stats posted on the dev blog are the baseline from which the ships will be improved up. Because as they stand now they are very underwhelming. The Seattle for example is straight up worse than the Neptune, having less HP and worse guns with a suicide range of 14,7 at T9 and a RoF that would be acceptable at T7 max. Lets hope WG will get creative in making those ships at least average. Because they sure can't make the ships more gimmicky, not with DFAA and Radar in separate slots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #9235 Posted March 24, 2018 12 minutes ago, fumtu said: Not sure what is your source for this. After a short amount of research it seems my source is indeed wrong. Found a photo among others after modernization which shows her quad 40mm mounts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-EXS-] Hades_warrior Players 5,381 posts 6,643 battles Report post #9236 Posted March 24, 2018 I see new Minotaur on the way (Worcester). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #9237 Posted March 24, 2018 9 minutes ago, Hades_warrior said: I see new Minotaur on the way (Worcester). Minotaur with 157 RPM and 12% fire chance before any skills, upgrades and signals. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lankylad11_lankylad Players 765 posts 8,230 battles Report post #9238 Posted March 24, 2018 my concern is the agility of these ships not their firepower. the seattle and Worcester can use modules to increase range if needed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #9239 Posted March 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, lankylad11_lankylad said: my concern is the agility of these ships not their firepower. the seattle and Worcester can use modules to increase range if needed Agility seems fine. Not RN CL agility, but still beats the other cruisers. They also have the same level of armor as the CAs, so they don't need amazing agility to survive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-EXS-] Hades_warrior Players 5,381 posts 6,643 battles Report post #9240 Posted March 24, 2018 4 hours ago, Nechrom said: Minotaur with 157 RPM and 12% fire chance before any skills, upgrades and signals. This can be a nightmare for us BB players BUT, this cruisers have no smoke (unlike UK cruisers), so that will be their weak spot. And probably not so great armor. Worcester will eat a lot of AP shells from all around for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #9241 Posted March 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Hades_warrior said: This can be a nightmare for us BB players BUT, this cruisers have no smoke (unlike UK cruisers), so that will be their weak spot. And probably not so great armor. Worcester will eat a lot of AP shells from all around for sure. With essentially the same armor as the average CA I don't think it will have any more problems than the current cruisers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TIPC] Klimons [TIPC] Players 98 posts 12,155 battles Report post #9242 Posted March 25, 2018 If Worcester has similiar arcs to Atlanta its a must have for me, I just love to sit behind islands and burn those BBabys. And just play this in the background for extra giggles :d Burn BBaby, burn ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #9243 Posted March 25, 2018 13 minutes ago, Klimons said: If Worcester has similiar arcs to Atlanta its a must have for me, I just love to sit behind islands and burn those BBabys. And just play this in the background for extra giggles :d Burn BBaby, burn ... Well, entire branch uses exactly the same 6"/47 guns you should be familiar from Cleveland, in different turret configurations. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLITZ] principat121 Modder 6,023 posts 11,475 battles Report post #9244 Posted March 25, 2018 With the BOISE as possible new premium cruiser for Tier7 the ATLANTA gets a real contester. BOISE is a HELENA with 1km less main gun range, better AA, worse turning circle (why? - same ship, but 130m difference?) and with a Radar consumable instead of floating plane! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CR33D] fumtu [CR33D] Players 3,842 posts 38,979 battles Report post #9245 Posted March 25, 2018 1 hour ago, principat121 said: With the BOISE as possible new premium cruiser for Tier7 the ATLANTA gets a real contester. BOISE is a HELENA with 1km less main gun range, better AA, worse turning circle (why? - same ship, but 130m difference?) and with a Radar consumable instead of floating plane! My choice among Brooklyn class for a premium would be Savannah but at T8 in 1945 configuration. Her 8 single 5inch guns were replaced with four double 5inch mounts, same as St.Louis class, and with 6x2 + 4x4 40mm Bofors mounts she would have nice AA, but still worse than Cleveland or Baltimore. With 8sec reload she could have been a nice alternative to Cleveland, with more guns but with slower reload, less HP, good but still worse AA than Cleveland and worse concealment. But she would have better torpedo protection as Savannah got torpedo bulges. Savannah at T8 could bring what a lot of players wanted in first place, Brooklyn class at T8 with her full power. If any Brooklyn class at T7 would have a radar than her AA should be in early war configuration with worse AA than Helena. Edit: Sorry I only noticed after post that Boise would be a premium T7. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Comodoro_Allande Players 2,240 posts 8,469 battles Report post #9246 Posted March 25, 2018 I find this pretty interesting, because the USS Boise served on the Argentinian Navy under the name ARA Nueve de Julio Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RJCTS] Boris_MNE Players 1,568 posts 10,303 battles Report post #9247 Posted March 25, 2018 ST. Soviet cruiser battleship Stalingrad, tier X. Hit points – 84000. Plating - 32 mm. Armor belt – 180 mm. Torpedo damage reduction – 25%. Main battery - 3х3 305 mm. Firing range – 20.4 km. Maximum AP shell damage - 9200. Reload time - 20 s. 180 degree turn time - 40 s. Maximum dispersion - 219 m. AP initial velocity - 950 m/s. Sigma value – 1.8. AA defense - 10x4 25 mm, range - 3.1 km, damage per second - 84. 6x4 45 mm, range - 3.5 km, damage per second - 124. 6x2 130 mm, range - 5.7 km, damage per second - 167. Maximum speed - 35 kt. Turning circle radius - 1130 m. Rudder shift time – 15.0 s. Surface detectability – 18.2 km. Air detectability – 13.8 km. Detectability after firing main guns in smoke – 15.6 km. Available consumables: Slot 1 - Damage Control Party Slot 2 - Defensive AA Fire Slot 3 - Repair Party All stats are listed without crew and upgrade modifiers but with best available modules. The stats are subject to change during the testing. I fixed that for them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Comodoro_Allande Players 2,240 posts 8,469 battles Report post #9248 Posted March 25, 2018 Cita Main battery - 3х3 305 mm. Firing range – 20.4 km. Maximum AP shell damage - 9200. Reload time - 20 s. 180 degree turn time - 40 s. Maximum dispersion - 219 m. AP initial velocity - 950 m/s. Sigma value – 1.8. The entire gun stats. I don't know if the missing HE is just a typo or will be a feature Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,322 battles Report post #9249 Posted March 25, 2018 Good bye, Clear Sky You won't be missed Because of you Many players were pi$$ed! Finally a very positive change. I can see both achievements as being quite doable by good players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Capra76 Players 5,001 posts 7,787 battles Report post #9250 Posted March 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Boris_MNE said: ST. Soviet cruiser battleship Stalingrad, tier X. WG are listening to us and have decided to fix the BB overpopulation problem by making every ship a BB. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
