Discussion thread for "some interesting info around the world"

[Toivia]

Atago is still one of the better T8 cruisers, if it gets a buff I want Mogami to get fast turning turrets with good firing angles and torps with better firing angles. Hipper & Eugen thankfully will get some buffs as already reported.

[FallOutBoi]

Why is Balti getting 27mm bow armor when downtiered but not at T9 ? Cant wait to get nose blapped by Alsace with the next patch

 

€dit: Balti has already 27mm plating. My bad.

[Admiral_H_Nelson]

USN CL/CA split

 

T8 Baltimore (Pittsburgh)

 

 

 

I wonder how much they are nerfing the AA values when they downtier all these ships?

[Nechrom]

1 minute ago, Admiral_H_Nelson said:

I wonder how much they are nerfing the AA values when they downtier all these ships?

 

I doubt they can nerf them much seeing as the AA values are already set for the mounts and they don't generally deviate from the historical design.

[Panocek]

While Pepsi/NO with current AA should be fine when downtiered, I'm tad worried about Baltimore - if she keeps her current, historical AA complement she will obliterate flying things at tier 8

[WashedandDeceased]

14.4km range? That's a bit..ouch.. It will face T10s after all..

Edit: Oh, I think this is without the range upgrade, so 15.8 maxed out

[Gojuadorai]

1 hour ago, Freyr_90 said:

14.4km range? That's a bit..ouch.. It will face T10s after all..

Edit: Oh, I think this is without the range upgrade, so 15.8 maxed out

 

thats still shorter than NO by 400m and since i like to run the range mod on T9 and T10 im think they should give it a slight boost.

 

its just unflexible to have that short of a range in t8+ matches

 

16.5 should be a range  that is reasonable

[El2aZeR]

4 hours ago, FallOutBoi said:

Why is Balti getting 27mm bow armor when downtiered but not at T9 ?

 

Uh, Balti currently has 27mm armor all over (bow, aft, deck and side are all 27mm).

It's funny that she gets to keep it though, since NO doesn't have it currently.

 

Dat range, tho. USN CA line will potentially become even more of a pain to grind than it already is.

(Not that I care because I'm done with it. )

[kfa]

8 hours ago, Freyr_90 said:

14.4km range? That's a bit..ouch.. It will face T10s after all..

Edit: Oh, I think this is without the range upgrade, so 15.8 maxed out

T8s dont have access to the 3M range module.

Its gonna be crap with DD range.

[FallOutBoi]

7 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

 

Uh, Balti currently has 27mm armor all over (bow, aft, deck and side are all 27mm).

It's funny that she gets to keep it though, since NO doesn't have it currently.

 

Dat range, tho. USN CA line will potentially become even more of a pain to grind than it already is.

(Not that I care because I'm done with it. )

OMG, it is true. Why the heck did I thought it is 25mm ? And i thought I could not even bow tank Bismarck or Tirpitz in my Balti. Then let the Alsace come .

[WashedandDeceased]

42 minutes ago, kfa said:

T8s dont have access to the 3M range module.

Its gonna be crap with DD range.

I meant the range upgrade from the tree, it's stated "without upgrades" in the post :) 

[Panocek]

7 hours ago, El2aZeR said:

 

Uh, Balti currently has 27mm armor all over (bow, aft, deck and side are all 27mm).

It's funny that she gets to keep it though, since NO doesn't have it currently.

 

Dat range, tho. USN CA line will potentially become even more of a pain to grind than it already is.

(Not that I care because I'm done with it. )

I wonder how much one will gain by buying ships before split, to sell them later. Assuming having all ships in question (2,950,000+5,570,000+8,900,000+13,600,000=31,027,000):

 

Baltimore gets replaced by Buffallo, player gets T8 Balti (reimbursed with 8,900,000cr)

NO gets replaced by Balti, player gets T7 NO (reimbursed with 5,577,000cr)

Pepsi gets replaced by NO, player gets T6 Pepsi (reimbursed with 2,950,000cr)

Cleve gets replaced by Pepsi, player get T8 Cleve in another branch

 

That should be 17,427,000cr from ship doubles + port slots + captains. Now from selling tier 6 to 9, that would be another 15,513,500cr, 32,940,500cr total. So unless I cannot into math, it should be modest, 1,9mil credit gain from investment in terms of credits. Now if ships were bought when discounted, that would be 7,8mil credit gain. Not quite as much as for RU DD changes, but

[NoirLotus]

1 minute ago, Tuccy said:

T8 Cleveland (Columbia)

 

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ST, American cruiser Columbia, tier VIII (ex-Cleveland, moved two tiers up, the stats were corrected accordingly)

Hit points – 30600. Plating - 16 mm. Armor belt – 127 mm. Torpedo damage reduction – 4%.

Main battery - 4x3 152 mm. Firing range – 13.3 km. Maximum HE shell damage – 2200. Chance to cause fire – 12%. Maximum AP shell damage - 3200. Reload time - 10 s. 180 degree turn time - 22.5 s. Maximum dispersion - 125 m. HE initial velocity - 812 m/s. AP initial velocity - 762 m/s. Sigma value – 2.0.

Maximum speed - 32.5 kt. Turning circle radius - 660 m. Rudder shift time – 9.3 s. Surface detectability – 13.3 km. Air detectability – 8.1 km. Detectability after firing main guns in smoke – 6.7 km.

Available consumables:

Slot 1 - Damage Control Party

Slot 2 - Defensive AA Fire/Hydroacoustic Search

Slot 3 - Catapult Fighter/Surveillance Radar Data

All stats are listed without crew and upgrade modifiers.

The numbers are preliminary and are subject to change during the testing phase.

The new name is a placeholder until the ship is released to avoid confusion with the existing one. Original name will be returned upon release.

 

Weren't the USN CL supposed to be equipped with def AA and sonar on separated solt

[Panocek]

5 minutes ago, NoirLotus said:

Weren't the USN CL supposed to be equipped with def AA and sonar on separated solt

That was said about Worcester AFAIK?

 

Still, 16mm plating at tier 8 CL without smoke and heals?

[Darth_Glorious]

Stock T8 Cleveland is hopeless with 10s reload time, 13.3km range and detection range without heal or smoke to compensate. Free Xp ship detected.

[Gnirf]

25 minutes ago, Darth_Glorious said:

Stock T8 Cleveland is hopeless with 10s reload time, 13.3km range and detection range without heal or smoke to compensate. Free Xp ship detected.

Perhaps so, but it is the same for all cruisers more or less, and all stock ships in general - we veterans are used to the full ships not the stock ships so the stats look worse than they are.

[Darth_Glorious]

Funny thing is that Cleveland has worse camo than Baltimore in the same tier(13.3 vs 12.6 km) 

[Gojuadorai]

the range is BS ...

 

 

with tose stats i can only thinked messed up somethings .

i really cant belive thats shall go on T8 as is

[Panocek]

12 minutes ago, Gojuadorai said:

the range is BS ...

 

 

with tose stats i can only thinked messed up somethings .

i really cant belive thats shall go on T8 as is

Wild guess suggests WG simply changed tiers as is, with barely any changes to the ships themselves and see what happens.

[herrjott]

Yes, it is basically the T6 stock Cleveland with 100 hp more, 0.1s slower rudder and radar.

[Nechrom]

1 hour ago, Panocek said:

Still, 16mm plating at tier 8 CL without smoke and heals?

Does that really matter much though?

Sure you get the HE damage from non-IFHE DDs and secondaries, but aside from that it makes little difference.

 

1 hour ago, Darth_Glorious said:

Funny thing is that Cleveland has worse camo than Baltimore in the same tier(13.3 vs 12.6 km) 

She pays highly in the "recognizability" department. 

Even then, both are in a good place when you look at their effective concealment.

 

45 minutes ago, herrjott said:

Yes, it is basically the T6 stock Cleveland with 100 hp more, 0.1s slower rudder and radar.

All these preliminary stats are almost useless since they are stock values, so we have no idea what gets changed by modules added except for the +10% range, some arbitrary extra health and better rudder shift.

[loppantorkel]

2 hours ago, Darth_Glorious said:

Stock T8 Cleveland is hopeless with 10s reload time, 13.3km range and detection range without heal or smoke to compensate. Free Xp ship detected.

Do we know about the 'accessories'? Does it come without smoke or heal? I'm assuming a radar on it, maybe heal too?

 

edit: nvm see it now..

 

Given current data, I think I prefer Atlanta at tier 7 despite the citadel.

[herrjott]

Vor 15 Minuten, Nechrom sagte:

All these preliminary stats are almost useless since they are stock values, so we have no idea what gets changed by modules added except for the +10% range, some arbitrary extra health and better rudder shift.

But a T8 stock ship should still be better than a T6 stock ship or one of them is really unbalanced. So I hope the stats are meaningless and all these new Devblog posts should really tell us is "Hey look, we actually started working on the line!".

[Nechrom]

2 minutes ago, herrjott said:

But a T8 stock ship should still be better than a T6 stock ship or one of them is really unbalanced. So I hope the stats are meaningless and all these new Devblog posts should really tell us is "Hey look, we actually started working on the line!".

But it's the Cleveland we're talking about here. Currently a CL at tier 6 with better protection, better DPM and better AA than most tier 8 CA.

Smack some radar on it, reel back on the turret traverse nerf and you're basically good.

[Alekxandar_]

I just want to know if someone else from Macedonia is playing this game?