Discussion thread for "some interesting info around the world"

[Spellfire40]

3 hours ago, Praxics said:

Steven Seagal will get removed from the game: To the surprise of not a single person who knows anything about this hack of a wannabe actor.

This guy is a scam. WG falling for him just demonstrates how stupid some of WG decision are.

I bet Seagal wanted royalty from WG for his “continuous” appearance in the game…

Its rather suprising thogh. You dont see them removing the ARP captains or the anime skins of teh ARP ships because the cooperation ended......

[Spellfire40]

22 minutes ago, Gojuadorai said:

 

yes this part was super shady 

 

it amde me agngry cause its just wrong in multiple ways

who needs good Dispersion or a spoter plane 

 

 

[Praxics]

4 minutes ago, Spellfire40 said:

Its rather suprising thogh. You dont see them removing the ARP captains or the anime skins of teh ARP ships because the cooperation ended......

No it is really not. That man is one gigantic [edited].

"3rd party invloved" you bet it is lawyers.

[Spellfire40]

2 minutes ago, Praxics said:

No it is really not. That man is one gigantic [edited].

"3rd party invloved" you bet it is lawyers.

Or a case of Segal not having the right to that cook and they argue its to close a comparison and the Movie company is geting greedy....

[Gojuadorai]

26 minutes ago, Spellfire40 said:

who needs good Dispersion or a spoter plane 

 

 

 

well yeah if you have 16 guns dispersion hardly matters

 

(i know the vid but imho its a fail if used to show that 16 guns are op which the creator wanted to show, half of the shoots you could have made in any 8+ gun BB of t7+)

 

im just frustrated they seemm to be unwilling to release any accurate BBs for now and prob the future  beacuse they want to protect broadside sailing noobs in cruisers.....

[Bellegar]

1 hour ago, Exocet6951 said:

I'm honestly a bit awestruck that people haven't quite tilted what the very first answer of the Q&A meant.

They basically said that they're keeping the better ships for premium status.
They just admitted to half-assing a branch design just in order to extract  premium ships from it.

 

 

After something like that, I'm half expecting the Zara to become a premium ship just because "it doesn't fit, and an uptiered fantasy-elongated Abruzzi with bofors makes more sense"
Conte di Cavour? Oh boy, lengthen it by 20%, slap some bofors, lower that citadel and boom, T7 ! 

You want the Littorio as a regular T8 BB? "The devs aren't too eager to add sisterships in this branch, so buy the Roma"

 

Yeah this was a very stupid part. I was struck with awe at what they were actually admitting.

I mean WTF. You might as well scrap the concept of silver ships and make us pay for every ship we want to play if you keep the 'proper' ships for premiums.

 

I also liked how defensive Evin got in chat when someone (I think it was @IsamuKondera) pointed out that there was a huge Imperial German Flag hanging on the wall, yet they can't seem to put it in game.

"We don't care that Dice is having no legal trouble with the flag, we make our own decision yadda yadda yadda"

[El2aZeR]

2 hours ago, Gojuadorai said:

beacuse they want to protect broadside sailing noobs in cruisers.

 

Funny thing is that it's not protecting them either. Less dispersion for a BB means a higher chance to hit when you have misaimed.

Basically it's to cater to the lowest possible denominator while punishing good play. Again.

[Gojuadorai]

14 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

Funny thing is that it's not protecting them either. Less dispersion for a BB means a higher chance to hit when you have misaimed.

Basically it's to cater to the lowest possible denominator while punishing good play. Again.

 

well ofc my statement was oversimplified what you say is true withing bounds

 

especially the second part, it pains me that they build in skillnormalization so much

the better you get the more frustrating it gets 

[Affeks]

7 hours ago, 1MajorKoenig said:

 

Is your point that Normandie is better or that Dunkerque is not good enough? That is a big difference. In my opinion Dunkerque is fine and I am having a blast in mine. My fear is rather that Normandie and Lyon are OP (not played them yet but watched them in a couple of matches yesterday)

Kongo is arguably better than Dunkerque even a tier down. http://bit.ly/2ExHCHK. Smaller target, better armor, more HP, better concealment, better range, better dispersion. The rest of Dunkerques strengths dont really address this. Id take Kongo to a tier 8 game over Dunkerque any day and thats no joke.

 

But yes Normandie is borderline OP as well, only really balanced because of tier 8 MM. 

[IsamuKondera]

2 hours ago, Bellegar said:

I also liked how defensive Evin got in chat when someone (I think it was @IsamuKondera) pointed out that there was a huge Imperial German Flag hanging on the wall, yet they can't seem to put it in game.

"We don't care that Dice is having no legal trouble with the flag, we make our own decision yadda yadda yadda"

It was me...

 

And it's still hilarious how they try to defend their stance although it pretty much has no backbone at all..

[Hades_warrior]

Quote

French collection, can it be completed with new containers coming in 0.7.2, because 0.7.1 doesn’t bring enough containers in 73% of the cases.
Sub needs to double-check, but “yes”. The PT of 0.72 drops containers with such items in them.

Is this true? We will continue with French containers in next patch? BEcause in this one is hard to collect all 18 items. Especially if you dont play all classes, because some mission is requesting torpedo hits / DD gameplay.

[Bellegar]

10 hours ago, Hades_warrior said:

Is this true? We will continue with French containers in next patch? BEcause in this one is hard to collect all 18 items. Especially if you dont play all classes, because some mission is requesting torpedo hits / DD gameplay.

Probably yes. The upcoming Campaign also rewards containers on the PTS, so if that carries over to live, there's plenty of those containers to collect.

[Hades_warrior]

5 hours ago, Bellegar said:

Probably yes. The upcoming Campaign also rewards containers on the PTS, so if that carries over to live, there's plenty of those containers to collect.

Which campaign? The one that gives 3 new perma camos? I think there is 3*5 missions, but you can play more of them only if you have a high tier French BB.

So for any other player who doesnt own French ship its 3*1, so that could be only 3 containers?

 

Something tells me that those containers are not for French commander but something like semi-super containers, like we had recently for last campaign.

[LastButterfly]

22 hours ago, Exocet6951 said:

I'm honestly a bit awestruck that people haven't quite tilted what the very first answer of the Q&A meant.

They basically said that they're keeping the better ships for premium status.
They just admitted to half-assing a branch design just in order to extract  premium ships from it.

 

 

After something like that, I'm half expecting the Zara to become a premium ship just because "it doesn't fit, and an uptiered fantasy-elongated Abruzzi with bofors makes more sense"
Conte di Cavour? Oh boy, lengthen it by 20%, slap some bofors, lower that citadel and boom, T7 ! 

You want the Littorio as a regular T8 BB? "The devs aren't too eager to add sisterships in this branch, so buy the Roma"

 

 

What exactly did you expect ? People are tired of starting riots everytime failgaming does something stupid.
When they always do or say lame stuff and never listen, at some point people just enter the "I don't care anymore" mode.

 

We're just too used to this kind of behavior from them. It doesn't even trigger anyone anymore.

[Exocet6951]

10 minutes ago, LastButterfly said:

 

What exactly did you expect ? People are tired of starting riots everytime failgaming does something stupid.
When they always do or say lame stuff and never listen, at some point people just enter the "I don't care anymore" mode.

 

We're just too used to this kind of behavior from them. It doesn't even trigger anyone anymore.

It's just so damn depressing though...

Seriously, "we aren't too eager to add sisterships" while at the mean time releasing the Musashi is just...Christ WG, you really have no shame at all. 
You really can't go any more Russian developer than that: telling people one thing while doing the exact opposite in plain sight.

[LastButterfly]

38 minutes ago, Exocet6951 said:

It's just so damn depressing though...

Seriously, "we aren't too eager to add sisterships" while at the mean time releasing the Musashi is just...Christ WG, you really have no shame at all. 
You really can't go any more Russian developer than that: telling people one thing while doing the exact opposite in plain sight.

 

I am myself confused at your reaction though. They've been doing this since square one. Are you just noticing ?

[Bellegar]

17 minutes ago, LastButterfly said:

 

I am myself confused at your reaction though. They've been doing this since square one. Are you just noticing ?

Well in the past, they were hiding it a bit better. This time, they literally said this as they release a sister ship.

[Exocet6951]

7 minutes ago, LastButterfly said:

 

I am myself confused at your reaction though. They've been doing this since square one. Are you just noticing ?

 

Not really though.
They've never taken out viable ships out of a branch in order to sell them as premiums, while cheesing said branch by just lowering citadels and making ships faster, then calling it a day.

Imagine it happening with other branches...

 

Kongo? Replaced with a Myogi on T5 with a below the waterline citadel and some bofors. Kawachi buffed to T4, and Mikasa reworked so it works as a T3 dreadnought, then selling the Kongo as a premium.

USN branch? "Woah the Wyoming has a lot of guns. Slap some bofors, make it go sonic fast and call it a good T6. New Mexico can just be a premium"

RN branch? "We're not too eager to have sisterships in the branch, so let's just have Orion on T6 and sell you the QE as a T7 premium, with the Warspite as a T6 premium"


KM branch? "We're not too eager to have sisterships in the branch, so here's a Konig on T6, Bayern on T7, and we're going to sell both the Gneisenau and Scharnhorst as premiums"


 

What they're doing is downright unprecedented.

They're actually telling us that they're extracting premium ships from branches, even if it means buffing dreadnoughts to fast battleship speeds to compensate the holes in the branch.

I mean, think about it.
What they're doing it creating a precedent for not even having the Littorio as a regular ship, because "muh sisterships tho", only to sell it as a premium ship later.

[Major_Damage225]

So wg is again making problems where they dont need to be, nothing new there unfortunatly  

[Gojuadorai]

1 hour ago, Exocet6951 said:

What they're doing it creating a precedent for not even having the Littorio as a regular ship, because "muh sisterships tho", only to sell it as a premium ship later.

 

while i love my pitchfork i think you got the sister ship thing wrong. (you could be right though)

 

what i think he meant was to not have the dunq on T6 and the strassbourg on T6/T7.

if im right the strassbourg was to be armored better that would create the problem of having a straight up better silver ship on T6 or a bad ship on T7.....

 

so i do not think ist as dramatic as you make it out to be but its worriesome non the  less and needs to be monitored

 

"They weren’t too eager to add sisterships in this branch, so Strasbourgh-Dunkirk(assume he meant dunq.)." 

 

 

[ColonelPete]

On 16/02/2018 at 5:03 PM, Hades_warrior said:

If Octy says he doesnt need, he doesnt need.

 

Make sense 

 

I regret the money I gave for Dunkerque. I dont mind on his concealment and mobility but those guns... gosh! Worst I've seen.

Before Dunk gets love, Mutsu and Warspite need some love.

 

[Dampfboot]

2 hours ago, Exocet6951 said:

It's just so damn depressing though...

Seriously, "we aren't too eager to add sisterships" while at the mean time releasing the Musashi is just...Christ WG, you really have no shame at all. 
You really can't go any more Russian developer than that: telling people one thing while doing the exact opposite in plain sight.

 

The "we don't like to add sisterships as premiums" is total corporate marketing [edited]. He knows it. We are used to this from WG generally but this argument is so blatantly obvious bullcrap, its poor even for WG quality standards. Oh wait WG doesn't have any quality standards, so I guess....

 

Omaha: Murmansk, Marblehead

Yamato: Musashi

Iowa: Missouri

North Carolina: Alabama

Kagero: Harekaze

Fletcher: Black, KIDD (?), Chung Mu

Fushun: Anshan

Fubuki: Shinonome (?)

Minekaze: Kamikaze x2, Fujin i.e. 1 regular and 3 sisterships in game

Benson: Lo Yang, Hsienyang

Amagi: Kii

New Mexico: Arizona

New York: Texas

 

Don't get me wrong, the whole sistership setup isn't necessary a bad thing. Just this argument is so horrid, how stupid does he think we are? If stuff just doesn't fit in their opinion they should say so and not pull some random crap argument out of their [edited].

[NoirLotus]

6 minutes ago, Dampfboot said:

Omaha: Murmansk, Marblehead

Yamato: Musashi

Iowa: Missouri

North Carolina: Alabama

Kagero: Harekaze

Fletcher: Black, KIDD (?), Chung Mu

Fushun: Anshan

Fubuki: Shinonome (?)

Minekaze: Kamikaze x2, Fujin i.e. 1 regular and 3 sisterships in game

Benson: Lo Yang, Hsienyang

Amagi: Kii

New Mexico: Arizona

New York: Texas

 

Technically, Alabama is a South Dakota class, an evolution of the NC but a different ship. And in the same way,  Arizona is not a sistership of the New Mexico (it's a Tennessee class). Flint is a modified Atlanta (Juneau subclass)

 

Fushun & Anshan are all Gnevny sisterships, just like Gremy.

 

You forgot : Ashitaka (Amagi class), Arkansas (Wyoming), Belfast (Edinburg), Gneisenau (Scharnhorst), Tirpitz (Bismarck), Prinz Eugen (Hipper)

[Hades_warrior]

24 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Before Dunk gets love, Mutsu and Warspite need some love.

 

Its not ''before'' in question. He said that Donky doesn't need buffs (which is hilarious). So there wont be any buffs in future at all as it looks like.

[Deckeru_Maiku]

42 minutes ago, ColonelPete said:

Before Dunk gets love, Mutsu and Warspite need some love.

 

 

In Warspite with the same average damage I get 0.98 kills per battle and 56% winrate. Survival rate is only ~30% though. Maybe being more aggressive leads to more wins?

Dunkerque - 53k average damage, 54% winrate. 25% survival rate... again being more aggressive = more wins?

Mutsu - 46k damage, 13% torp hit % (^^), 60% winrate, ~30% survival... being aggressive = winrar!

New Mexico - 49k damage, 59% winrate, 35% survival... AGGRO WINS!

 

See the problem with these statistics? Too many idiots hanging around at maximum range doing next to no damage, but surviving the battle, yelling at those who got killed because of no support" look how great we did, while you deadish people lost the game!!!

 

Dunkerque is fine as it is. Just ltp issues... as with all ships.