[NED] piet11111 Players 2,225 posts 8,827 battles Report post #8851 Posted February 16, 2018 Ah bugger they wont give us a toggle to turn ugly and/or non-historical camo's into a historical camo. Seems they intend to turn the game into the visual experience of a late 90's disco or something Shame they won't allow for player choice here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
44smok Players 4,367 posts 16,858 battles Report post #8852 Posted February 16, 2018 Stranger Ships ^^ Republique is a good and historical name but so was France. Can't understand why people didn't like it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XODUS] JaiFoh Players 799 posts 4,868 battles Report post #8853 Posted February 16, 2018 1 hour ago, 44smok said: Stranger Ships ^^ Republique is a good and historical name but so was France. Can't understand why people didn't like it. I prefer France to Republique This would have been the equivalent of calling HMS Conqueror, HMS Campbletown instead IMHO. Famous warship names, but in terms of impact...it just doesn't have the same impact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCRUB] Loran_Battle Beta Tester 1,245 posts Report post #8854 Posted February 16, 2018 7 hours ago, Admiral_H_Nelson said: About MM Is it possible to add BBs tier XI,XII so they only face tier IX;X ships. They have already tried that option internally, result is: Very very quickly MM for t8, but very slow MM for TX. Sub octavian data for TVIII ships: 55% TOP tier, 13% in tier IX, 33% in tier X battles. And Sub octavian is satisfied with that. What? Who produced these figures? Is this where the lot who produced Tractor Production Figures in the days of the Glorious Soviet Empire went to? Only glorious RU server counts probably. I don't believe these stats for an instance. My own stats tell me the complete opposite (tier 8v10 = 60%, tier 8v9 = 3%, tier 8v8 = 37%). I've stopped listening to S_Os stats a long time ago. For some reason they never seem to align with the reality ingame on the EU server. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #8855 Posted February 16, 2018 Quote For the French BB's, why use buffed dreadnoughts for T5-7 when there would be more modern ships for that era that actually existed (in blueprints).When they can use real-world modernisation, they use it. In case of French ships, they check blueprints, if it fits gameplay. They weren’t too eager to add sisterships in this branch, so Strasbourgh-Dunkirk. And there are plans for premium-ships, so it’s entirely possible the modern ships will be premiums.Unhistorical mods: it’s not a bad thing to do, some ships had the chance to be modded IRL, but couldn’t due to circumstances, so it’s a nice “what if”-scenario. WW1-era should be modable to make it competitive in T5-6-7 battles. So, the answer to the question I asked basically boils down to : we saved the good ships for premiums. Got it. "We lowered the citadels and slapped bofors and lolincreased the speed on garbage ships in order to justify uptiering them so we can sell you actually good ships at a later date" Plus, the "not too eager to add sisterships" to the branch falls [edited]flat when there's the Hipper+PE, KGV+PoW+Monarch, Bismarck+Tirpitz, Gveny+Grem, De Grasse+LaGal, and Warspite+QE sistership combos already ingame. Not too eager to add sisterships... Oh boy, I'm saving that one, S_O. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NED] piet11111 Players 2,225 posts 8,827 battles Report post #8856 Posted February 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, Exocet6951 said: So, the answer to the question I asked basically boils down to : we saved the good ships for premiums. Got it. "We lowered the citadels and slapped bofors and lolincreased the speed on garbage ships in order to justify uptiering them so we can sell you actually good ships at a later date" Plus, the "not too eager to add sisterships" to the branch falls [edited]flat when there's the Hipper+PE, KGV+PoW+Monarch, Bismarck+Tirpitz, Gveny+Grem, De Grasse+LaGal, and Warspite+QE sistership combos already ingame. Not too eager to add sisterships... Oh boy, I'm saving that one, S_O. Or the Omaha+Murmansk+marblehead Jamato+Mushashi or Iowa+Missouri and then where not even mentioning the copy-pasta of the ARP ships or the dragon ships. Either way i am kinda disappointed how they handled my question if they read it better they would have known the meat of the question was for allowing all of the nonsense camo's to be altered to the regular ones to avoid situations like in this pic. As the game keeps on evolving we are going to see more and more of these rubbish looking camo's being introduced so a bit of work on wargamings part and they could have a toggle system in place that can be extended to all newly introduced camo's so the players can set up the game just how they like it while still benefiting from the bonuses those camo's provide. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[CBS] Allied_Winter Players 6,242 posts 10,755 battles Report post #8857 Posted February 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Loran_Battle said: Only glorious RU server counts probably. I don't believe these stats for an instance. My own stats tell me the complete opposite (tier 8v10 = 60%, tier 8v9 = 3%, tier 8v8 = 37%). I've stopped listening to S_Os stats a long time ago. For some reason they never seem to align with the reality ingame on the EU server. Nope. Worldwide stats (minus Chinese speshul server). The difference between servers would be intersting though. Greetings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[UNICS] Nechrom Beta Tester 4,870 posts 10,112 battles Report post #8858 Posted February 16, 2018 "Prinz Eugen - will get buff." 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Verdius Beta Tester 1,989 posts 4,247 battles Report post #8859 Posted February 16, 2018 Quote Yamato & Montana eat the same amounts of citadels than other high-tier BB’s You telling me that Yamato with its massive raised citadel and angled frontal part that allows it to get citadelled from weird angles gets punished equally hard for bad gameplay like sailing full broadside as a Iowa with its small below water citadel is? Quote Prior to the change, they ate more, which meant that it resulted in a stale gameplay with players being reluctant to even turn their ship, thus bowtanking from beginning to start This is exactly what is happening to Yamato/Izumo right now, so this confuses me why they felt the need to adress this on USN BBs but not on IJN T9 and 10. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Panocek Players 13,176 posts 13,617 battles Report post #8860 Posted February 16, 2018 Missouri had raised citadel too, I guess if enough people buy Musashi and whine hard enough about her citadel, both she and Yamato will have it lowered "due to player feedback" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] Earl_of_Northesk Players 2,447 posts 14,711 battles Report post #8861 Posted February 16, 2018 11 hours ago, Admiral_H_Nelson said: About buffing ships Prinz Eugen - will get buff. Hipper - will get buff. YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!! About MM Is it possible to add BBs tier XI,XII so they only face tier IX;X ships. They have already tried that option internally, result is: Very very quickly MM for t8, but very slow MM for TX. Sub octavian data for TVIII ships: 55% TOP tier, 13% in tier IX, 33% in tier X battles. And Sub octavian is satisfied with that. What? Who produced these figures? Is this where the lot who produced Tractor Production Figures in the days of the Glorious Soviet Empire went to? Those numbers are frankly ridiculous, they are going against every single analysis I have ever seen, and we are not talking about expected discrepancy here, but rather something in the range of +15% difference. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Culiacan_Mexico Players 2,844 posts 14,993 battles Report post #8862 Posted February 16, 2018 "...T8 ships currently are toptier in 55% of the battles..." You ever work on a rather involved math problem and when you eventually get the answer... it just looks wrong. It just glares at you, and challenges to accept it is factual, when everything in your body, your experience, tells you it isn't. T10 ships are always top tier and T1s are their own thing, but besides those... is any other group of ships that are top tier more than 50% of the time? If this was me, I would look closer at the work which lead to this answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[JUNK] Affeks [JUNK] Beta Tester 1,934 posts 8,416 battles Report post #8863 Posted February 16, 2018 Dunkek doesnt need buffs? Okay okay wtf.... Lets see: http://bit.ly/2F4ldmt HMMMMMMM Worse survivability, worse mobility, worse concealment, worse main guns... BUT HEY DUNK GETS BETTER TURRET LAYOUT AND A CATAPULT PLANE SO IT DOESNT NEED BUFFS RIGHT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Humorpalanta ∞ Players 2,025 posts 13,785 battles Report post #8864 Posted February 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Affeks said: Dunkek doesnt need buffs? Okay okay wtf.... Lets see: http://bit.ly/2F4ldmt HMMMMMMM Worse survivability, worse mobility, worse concealment, worse main guns... BUT HEY DUNK GETS BETTER TURRET LAYOUT AND A CATAPULT PLANE SO IT DOESNT NEED BUFFS RIGHT Don't forget that you have your guns in front but you can't hit sh*t with them cos a drunk sailor on drugs with a coffeine and self touching addiction controls your targeting. Also you can't turn because you are instantly deleted but if you don't trun you eat 3k dmg from AP or 2 fires from HE or 5-6k dmg from IFHE with every salvo so you just melt into the water. Who needs winning anyways? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[JUNK] Affeks [JUNK] Beta Tester 1,934 posts 8,416 battles Report post #8865 Posted February 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, Humorpalanta said: Don't forget that you have your guns in front but you can't hit sh*t with them cos a drunk sailor on drugs with a coffeine and self touching addiction controls your targeting. Also you can't turn because you are instantly deleted but if you don't trun you eat 3k dmg from AP or 2 fires from HE or 5-6k dmg from IFHE with every salvo so you just melt into the water. Who needs winning anyways? Dunkerque: Long, high profile ship with 25mm plating all over and a tall superstructure Normandie: Short, low profile ship with armored upper plating, extended main belt, even 30mm deck in certain areas and small superstructure Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Praxics Players 510 posts Report post #8866 Posted February 16, 2018 So Hipper and Eugen finally get another buff. About bloody time. While I recognise that other cruiser struggle as well e.g. New Orleans it is the German cruiser who lacks presence on the battlefield. New Orleans is a threat to UK CL and DDs due to radar, no one fears a Hipper. (Except a 15” BB at 6km without backup...) Long reload and bad AP pen angles make the danger it poses rather situational. People also seem to avoid Prinz Eugen, for good reason. 7,5k Battles in the last two weeks… the ship is as rare as a pink unicorn farting rainbows at this point. Steven Seagal will get removed from the game: To the surprise of not a single person who knows anything about this hack of a wannabe actor. This guy is a scam. WG falling for him just demonstrates how stupid some of WG decision are. I bet Seagal wanted royalty from WG for his “continuous” appearance in the game… As for the stats about T8 MM… I have no stats of my own but it “feels” wrong. I think I read a post of someone recording his own games of some time. The result was apparently not as bad as I and others make it out to be but was biased a bit to being more low tier than high tier in T8. Edit: It may have to with class as well. Lots of BB so an abundance of T10 BBs as well, no place to fit lots of T8 BBs. However lack of T10 CA probably forces more T8 CA into T10 battles... overall it might be correct but on class level it might be screwed up. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #8867 Posted February 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Affeks said: Dunkerque: Long, high profile ship with 25mm plating all over and a tall superstructure Normandie: Short, low profile ship with armored upper plating, extended main belt, even 30mm deck in certain areas and small superstructure Is your point that Normandie is better or that Dunkerque is not good enough? That is a big difference. In my opinion Dunkerque is fine and I am having a blast in mine. My fear is rather that Normandie and Lyon are OP (not played them yet but watched them in a couple of matches yesterday) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,314 battles Report post #8868 Posted February 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said: Is your point that Normandie is better or that Dunkerque is not good enough? That is a big difference. In my opinion Dunkerque is fine and I am having a blast in mine. My fear is rather that Normandie and Lyon are OP (not played them yet but watched them in a couple of matches yesterday) The Dunk could do with a small buff, as it tends to overpen cruisers at close to mid range and not hit anything at long range. It is a very situational ship that is easily countered. The Normandie has a horrible time fighting CVs, almost no AA. It also has to show a lot of side to fire its guns. Haven't played the Lyon but have heard that it's very good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[COMFY] ImperialAdmiral [COMFY] Players 1,649 posts 9,828 battles Report post #8869 Posted February 16, 2018 Republique sounds really cool. I really like that name. France was just too generic. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[RONIN] 22cm Beta Tester 6,377 posts 36,662 battles Report post #8870 Posted February 16, 2018 1 hour ago, ImperialAdmiral said: Republique sounds really cool. I really like that name. France was just too generic. Yeah, but Champagne or Cognac sound even cooler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-EXS-] Hades_warrior Players 5,381 posts 6,643 battles Report post #8871 Posted February 16, 2018 14 hours ago, Gojuadorai said: a wedding you dont want to attend If there is a free drink and food as much as you can eat, hell yes I want to attend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-EXS-] Hades_warrior Players 5,381 posts 6,643 battles Report post #8872 Posted February 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Affeks said: Dunkek doesnt need buffs? Okay okay wtf.... Lets see: http://bit.ly/2F4ldmt HMMMMMMM Worse survivability, worse mobility, worse concealment, worse main guns... BUT HEY DUNK GETS BETTER TURRET LAYOUT AND A CATAPULT PLANE SO IT DOESNT NEED BUFFS RIGHT If Octy says he doesnt need, he doesnt need. Make sense I regret the money I gave for Dunkerque. I dont mind on his concealment and mobility but those guns... gosh! Worst I've seen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #8873 Posted February 16, 2018 Quote Tighter dispersion would mean insta-delete cruisers, which isn’t that desirable. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #8874 Posted February 16, 2018 I'm honestly a bit awestruck that people haven't quite tilted what the very first answer of the Q&A meant. They basically said that they're keeping the better ships for premium status. They just admitted to half-assing a branch design just in order to extract premium ships from it. After something like that, I'm half expecting the Zara to become a premium ship just because "it doesn't fit, and an uptiered fantasy-elongated Abruzzi with bofors makes more sense" Conte di Cavour? Oh boy, lengthen it by 20%, slap some bofors, lower that citadel and boom, T7 ! You want the Littorio as a regular T8 BB? "The devs aren't too eager to add sisterships in this branch, so buy the Roma" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[NWP] Gojuadorai Players 2,832 posts 21,712 battles Report post #8875 Posted February 16, 2018 48 minutes ago, El2aZeR said: Tighter dispersion would mean insta-delete cruisers, which isn’t that desirable. yes this part was super shady it amde me agngry cause its just wrong in multiple ways Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
