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[SparvieroVV]

WG gave Akizuki panasiatica destroyers instead. 

[DFens_666]

10 minutes ago, Verdius said:

Year of CVs

 

Also we now have this AA BB monstrosity but WG still can't be arsed to give the AA destroyer Akizuki def AA.

Brilliant balancing when the class CVs are supposed to be a hard counter for now get a hard counter against that. Oh and of course it has hydro because DDs are also supposed to counter BBs.

 

 

Yep, just watched it too. THis game is doing down the drain FAST. Thats my opinion, if anyone doesnt like it, idc...

I think 1 year from now we have BBs without citadels shooting with 4sec reload... DD-BB anyone?

[El2aZeR]

I see nothing wrong with this.

After all, you can't have BB overpopulation when everyone is playing BBs. Utterly genius from WG if you ask me.

 

I guess the idiots who demand equal match influence for every class are finally getting their wish.

[Exocet6951]

2 minutes ago, El2aZeR said:

I see nothing wrong with this.

After all, you can't have BB overpopulation when everyone is playing BBs. Utterly genius from WG if you ask me.

 

I guess the idiots who demand equal match influence for every class are finally getting their wish.

 

"All ships are equal, but some (battle)ships are more equal than others."
-WG balance and marketing department

 

Anyway, when do I get a turboheal, 50 knot top speed, triple the armor and half the concealment range on my Martel?
You know, to influence a match as equally as an NC.

[Verdius]

YEAR OF CV

 

@Sub_Octavian How does this fit into making CV play more enjoyable?

[AkosJaccik]

You know...

 

_{submarines sound less and less retarded with each patch.}

[Exocet6951]

3 minutes ago, AkosJaccik said:

You know...

 

_{submarines sound less and less retarded with each patch.}

 

I thought the same with guided missiles.

Hated the idea at first, but now it almost sounds reasonable 

[GhostRiderMax123]

21 minutes ago, Exocet6951 said:

 

I thought the same with guided missiles.

Hated the idea at first, but now it almost sounds reasonable 

 

please no everyone will sit at the back spamming missiles.

 

I do think that the DoY needs looking at again :/

[Chaos_Umbra]

1 hour ago, GhostRider_24 said:

I do think that the DoY needs looking at again :/

More people would probably buy it if it was tier 8 with the fully upgraded hull cause the KGV got gimped to tier 7, rather than giving it all the Cruiser consumables.

Luckily they didn't give it Radar as well.

[El2aZeR]

2 minutes ago, Chaos_Umbra said:

Luckily they didn't give it Radar as well.

 

Oi, don't give them any ideas.

[Darth_Glorious]

Look like Duke of York is a testbed for future battlecruisers 

[Kartoffelmos]

Except the future battlecruisers will probably be matched up against regular cruisers... 

[Spellfire40]

15 minutes ago, Kartoffelmos said:

Except the future battlecruisers will probably be matched up against regular cruisers... 

Duke takes a BB slot not a nice thing if she gets mirrored by a real KGV..

[Verdius]

1 hour ago, El2aZeR said:

 

Oi, don't give them any ideas.

The original idea was to give Conqueror radar as well.

WG should give KGV smoke and radar to compensate for the removal of Belfast 

 

 

 

No but seriously why are we getting DoY? We already have Hood and Nelson as T7 RN BB prems and the only thing DoY adds is more Def AA BBs which the near entire playerbase is against and is only there to annoy the already least popular class by being strong against the supposed main BB counter. And even the BBabies don't like her because she doesn't have heal.

[Capra76]

3 hours ago, Spellfire40 said:

Duke takes a BB slot not a nice thing if she gets mirrored by a real KGV..

 

I think DoY gets cruiser (30 second) fire duration and cruiser DCP cooldown so the lack of heal is not the end of the world.

[Gnirf]

I agree with the BBflooding but a ship like DoY is for me more a collectors item. Will it make a player play more Battleship games. For me personally I may throw freexp or in campaign but if I play the ship it is instead of another Battleship. I play a distribution of DDs, BBs and Cruisers and any of these latest arrivals GC f.e. which I have has rather made me replace games with other battleships.

 

If we disregard new lines and their effect, I think that the BBs can not be so many more in game proportionally. DoYs lack of heal makes her rather unattractive IMO, you may play her a game from time to time. I have KGV Prem camo so the XP does not matter and I am flooding in credits. It is  probably a sales thing, but after the RN BBs I am surprised that the next French line are BBs and not the DDs. Most minor/panEuropean are also cruisers and DDs only so it would be good to have BBs in reserve but ofc we have BC and split branches also.

[1MajorKoenig]

7 hours ago, Darth_Glorious said:

Look like Duke of York is a testbed for future battlecruisers 

 

Is that speculation on your end it did WG indicate such intentions?

 

I mean it could very well be though 

[Darth_Glorious]

56 minutes ago, 1MajorKoenig said:

 

Is that speculation on your end it did WG indicate such intentions?

 

I mean it could very well be though 

It is my speculation based on WG history of new ideas testing with prem/reward ships :

DD with hydro : Lo Yang --> Ger DDs

DD with radar : Black --> PA DDs

CL with smoke : Flint+Kutuzov --> RN CLs

BB with DFAA : Hood --> short lived RN BB versions + Duke of York

BB without heal but with CA specs: Duke of York --> ?

 

[Exocet6951]

9 minutes ago, Darth_Glorious said:

It is my speculation based on WG history of new ideas testing with prem/reward ships :

DD with hydro : Lo Yang --> Ger DDs

DD with radar : Black --> PA DDs

CL with smoke : Flint+Kutuzov --> RN CLs

BB with DFAA : Hood --> short lived RN BB versions + Duke of York

BB without heal but with CA specs: Duke of York --> ?

 

 

Ishizuchi with a focus on HE --> RN BBs

 

Can't wait for a BB based on the Kaga, with tons of plane at its disposal 

[1MajorKoenig]

12 minutes ago, Exocet6951 said:

 

Ishizuchi with a focus on HE --> RN BBs

 

Can't wait for a BB based on the Kaga, with tons of plane at its disposal 

 

Which shows that the "testbed" approach has certain limitations. A single T4 HE Battlecruiser is perfectly fine whereas a line of cloakable non-citadel braindead HE BBs is breaking the game. So either WG cannot oversee the implications of a widespread use of certain traits or they have a very strange idea where their game should go.

 

Back to DoY: I find the thought interesting that she might be a test BC. Is the matchmaking thingy still in the plans, meaning that the ship counts as a CA when bottom tier? That might have some interesting implications on high tier games if BCs will be the same?

[Gojuadorai]

1 hour ago, Darth_Glorious said:

 

BB without heal but with CA specs: Duke of York --> ?

 

 

it might be they finaly decided to do a BB / Battlecruiser split (which they said they wont do)

[creamgravy]

WG already think KGV, Lion and Conq are Battlecruisers. 

 

Ishizuchi uses normal RN faction HE shells like Warspite, the 25 second reload buff made her a crazy HE spammer. RN BBs are retarded due to the buffed alpha and pen combo.

 

2 hours ago, 1MajorKoenig said:

Is the matchmaking thingy still in the plans, meaning that the ship counts as a CA when bottom tier?

 

A low tier BB taking up a higher tier cruiser slot happens all the time in T8-10.

Spoiler

 

[PietroMaximoffTR]

3 hours ago, Darth_Glorious said:

It is my speculation based on WG history of new ideas testing with prem/reward ships :

DD with hydro : Lo Yang --> Ger DDs

DD with radar : Black --> PA DDs

CL with smoke : Flint+Kutuzov --> RN CLs

BB with DFAA : Hood --> short lived RN BB versions + Duke of York

BB without heal but with CA specs: Duke of York --> ?

 

This so true.

 

Duke of York -->French BB's???

[Gnirf]

3 hours ago, Darth_Glorious said:

It is my speculation based on WG history of new ideas testing with prem/reward ships :

DD with hydro : Lo Yang --> Ger DDs

DD with radar : Black --> PA DDs

CL with smoke : Flint+Kutuzov --> RN CLs

BB with DFAA : Hood --> short lived RN BB versions + Duke of York

BB without heal but with CA specs: Duke of York --> ?

 

I sort of like your deduction and I would also add that since the early BCs were rather (esp RN) rather poorly armoured they might be easier to fit in at lower tiers without heal if you keep the original ships at T3/4 with poor AA..

[Spellfire40]

8 hours ago, Capra76 said:

 

I think DoY gets cruiser (30 second) fire duration and cruiser DCP cooldown so the lack of heal is not the end of the world.

The damagecontroll is the Icon yes but certainly is BB,,, you think she would pull the same weight in a game than a KGV that has Repair Party? 

You basically gets a superheavy cruiser on one Team. With 3 of them on one side you basically reduces the efectiv Hp of one side significantly to get 2 more no fly zones and useless sonar.....wich makes your chances to win less likely.

 

While the Shorter damagecontroll means you not automaticaly get burned to death your weakkness vs HE pens dosent Change.

 

And we are not even get into why would you take a Atlanta for AA when you can have this Monster. giving cruiser Jobs to a BB is not a good Thing,