Discussion thread for "some interesting info around the world"

[Exocet6951]

3 hours ago, ShinGetsu said:

Yeah the French forum went balistic.

It's even worse than the RN fanbois that wanted their floating teabags to be superior to everything else.

 

 

It wa embarrassing to read, especially after all the wtf nationalism comments like "France has been the premier naval architect/engineering nation" or "The only reason French ships aren't regarded as good is because they're compared to ships built after them"
They achieved levels of chauvinist whine greater than ever the most fervent wehraboo.


Seriously, the France has nothing to be concerne about for the moment.
The turret config isn't great, but it's ultimately not too different from 4x2. It might have a slight edge in some aspects, as 4x2 can lead to one turret having worse firing angles because of the turret in front/behind it, and because quad turrets have more HP than dual turrets.

The amount of guns being an issue will only come up if the accuracy/overall effectiveness of the guns is low, the armor remains to be seen, the maneuverability will be dictacted with soft stats (though I'm confident they'll be pretty good, like on French CAs)...

As for the rest, well we're looking at what appears to be at least 6x2 127mm/54, at least 4x2 57mm bofors, what appears to be 127mm/38 ( midship and facing outwards, behind the last 3 127/54 turret), at least 3x3 very probably DP 152mm mounts (though the effectiveness will be very low), plus whatever is still hidden at the back of the superstructure, in the pixelated mess of that is the 950x540 image. Long range AA will be present, though not overwhelming.

 

To call the Alsace superior because it's 2x4 A-X is quite frankly premature and quasi-childish.
My cruisers are already shaking in their boots at the thought of an accurate, high alpha, high velocity, high penetration ship that can overmatch their armor in all but the main belt and trolliest of troll armor zones.

[PseudoMi]

After the T9 presentation we all hoped that T10 will bring an original 4x4. The 2x4 was perceived as a party killer, despite lack of complete information - the ship might be very well balanced, with some other very (or very very) strong points.

 

I suppose the 4x4 was avoided for the sake of preserving the last few top-tier cruiser players. With such a range and number of guns, a 4x4 BB would had only to shoot toward the enemy spawn right at the beginning of the game, to blind OS some cruiser there.

[LastButterfly]

5 hours ago, ShinGetsu said:

Yeah the French forum went balistic.

 

No, three random people went ballistic.

There's a huge difference. It's not because they shout louder that they're the majority.

[WeGreedy]

So many people are complaining about "Russian bias", but when it comes to their national ships, the real bias starts. 

[ShinGetsu]

Just now, SeeteufeI said:

It's so funny, so many people are complaining about "Russian bias" but when it comes to their national ships, the real bias starts. 

Especially since in WoWS there's like two russian ships clearly very strong and the rest is pretty much balanced.

[WeGreedy]

2 minutes ago, ShinGetsu said:

Especially since in WoWS there's like two russian ships clearly very strong and the rest is pretty much balanced.

Khabarovsk and Kutuzov?

[Boris_MNE]

Just pray that they do not introduce russian CV line :D You will see some real balancing komrade... 52 torpedoes in squadron, uber stealth, 25km secondaries.... etc :D

[PseudoMi]

8 minutes ago, SeeteufeI said:

Khabarovsk and Kutuzov?

Nikolai and Cesare. 

[DFens_666]

16 minutes ago, ShinGetsu said:

Especially since in WoWS there's like two russian ships clearly very strong and the rest is pretty much balanced.

 

Not sure which 2 u mean but

Orion > Nikolai

Orion > Okt.

Kutuzov ye well,, but Belfast anyone? I feel the belfast is a bigger pain in the [edited]

Khaba -> True, but very few ppl play it, and the ones that actually do they are pretty good in it. Thats why maybe.

[Admiral_H_Nelson]

5 hours ago, ImperialAdmiral said:

New port - Hamburg

Source: WoWs Dev Blog

 

 

 

Nice! Goodbye home-port St Petersburg. Hello Hamburg!

A working port in winter (like London), but with scenic features and cool lighting.  And unlike London it doesn't look down-market and crap.

 

I wonder what years form the basis of the image - 1920s, -30s, -40s, 50s ?

[WeGreedy]

18 minutes ago, PseudoMi said:

Nikolai and Cesare Novorossiysk

 

[JaiFoh]

2 hours ago, Exocet6951 said:

 

It wa embarrassing to read, especially after all the wtf nationalism comments like "France has been the premier naval architect/engineering nation" or "The only reason French ships aren't regarded as good is because they're compared to ships built after them"
They achieved levels of chauvinist whine greater than ever the most fervent wehraboo.

I'd agree on a whole
During the age of sail French ship building was prob the best in the world (it built a huge section of the royal navy due to royal navy capturing the bringing ships into service.) 
It collapsed following the age of steal and the Pre-Dreadnought era and didn't really return to the top table in quality terms until after the Russo-Japanese war. 

to be frank the France has surprised me and if the 2x4 in A-X doesn't work i'd like to see 3x3 431's instead. 
 

[T0byJug]

1 hour ago, Admiral_H_Nelson said:

 

 

Nice! Goodbye home-port St Petersburg. Hello Hamburg!

A working port in winter (like London), but with scenic features and cool lighting.  And unlike London it doesn't look down-market and crap.

 

I wonder what years form the basis of the image - 1920s, -30s, -40s, 50s ?

It has to be 40's or 50's, so i would go with 50's or later(not sure how much of dock area had been Rebuilt by 1950s). Item circled in Red is a Rundbunker (air Raid shelter) built in 1940.

[Admiral_H_Nelson]

I wonder where the ships will be placed within the port? I hope it's next to the Rundbunker because you'd get views of the bridge, the barges, and the cool lighting effects at the dock side.

 

Come on WG - don't make us wait until Christmas. Give us the new port now!

[Deckeru_Maiku]

On 27.11.2017 at 1:38 PM, PseudoMi said:

Charlemagne would have been even better.

 

I guess, the problem with Charlemagne would rather be, that he wasn't really french, as there was no France when he reigned. As Carolus Magnus / Karolus Magnus he was the roman emperor. And in Germany we know him as Karl der Große and think of him as german, because his residence and imperial capital was in Aachen.

 

Would have been cool though, if there were a Charlemagne (French BB) and Karl der Große (German BB) in the game, facing off against each other...

[Exocet6951]

7 minutes ago, Deckeru_Maiku said:

 

I guess, the problem with Charlemagne would rather be, that he wasn't really french, as there was no France when he reigned.

 

I guess there are no English kings before 1066, Chinese Emperors prior to the current political entity that is China, that the Italians aren't in any way related to the Romans.
And since residence is important, that Richard the Lionhearted wasn't English at all, because he barely spent any time in England.

Or we can skip the semantics and pseudo-revisionist history and agree that two dynastys of kings hailing from modern day France and Belgium, a Germano-Celtic people, reigning over modern day France and Belgium and conquering modern day Germany and Austria, before said Charlemagne conquered the rest of modern day Germany, Austria and large parts of Italy, are the start of the French monarchy, thus by definition what would be France.

[Deckeru_Maiku]

16 minutes ago, Exocet6951 said:

...are the start of the French monarchy

 

...and the start of the Heiligen Römischen Reiches Deutscher Nation (Holy Roman Empire of German Nation), as all those later "Holy Roman" Emperors - usually coming from what later became Germany - saw themselves as the heirs of Karl der Große.

[Admiral_H_Nelson]

[Aragathor]

18 minutes ago, Admiral_H_Nelson said:

I'll raise you:

 

 

[ImperialAdmiral]

Gif saved!

[eliastion]

9 hours ago, DFens_666 said:

Khaba -> True, but very few ppl play it, and the ones that actually do they are pretty good in it. Thats why maybe.

Nah, Khaba is actually pretty easy to play passably well even by a very average player - it's one of the ships with pretty low skill floor. THAT is where her good stats come from. On the other hand, Khaba is surprisingly hard to consistently do great in - due to not really being a DD. If your other DDs are crap, Khaba can't make up for their inability. And if you're unlucky to end up in a match with very few DDs... being in a Khaba can be a serious liability. Which is why Khaba might not be as popular as you'd expect - it's just frustrating how much MM can screw you over, leaving you to do a task your ship is very poorly suited for (that is, capping thing). Then again, on 4-5 DD per side matches, Khaba is a great thing to have on your team, bringing some more firepower and powerful close support for the real DDs to fight against their red counterparts.

[Masterrix]

does anyone know why Richelieu's stock-hull looks so strange ?

 

Straßbourg-command tower, 5x3 secs, catapults ?

is this another fantasy-garbage thing, no one demanded for ?

so hard to use early-war Richi as stock and late war Richi as B-hull ?

 

[DFens_666]

1 hour ago, eliastion said:

Nah, Khaba is actually pretty easy to play passably well even by a very average player - it's one of the ships with pretty low skill floor. THAT is where her good stats come from.

 

I kinda said it, alltho i put it a bit weirdly

I think the RU DDs arent so popular because they arent really DDs in a sense that they throw torps and stuff. Thats why i think Shima is so popular...

[Verdius]

6 hours ago, Deckeru_Maiku said:

I guess, the problem with Charlemagne would rather be, that he wasn't really french, as there was no France when he reigned. As Carolus Magnus / Karolus Magnus he was the roman emperor. And in Germany we know him as Karl der Große and think of him as german, because his residence and imperial capital was in Aachen.

 

Charles Martel is a ship in this game and he was the grandfather of Charlemagne so I don't see how this would be a problem.

[Darth_Glorious]

Compare Musachi/Conqueror/France guns :

 

T9 and T10 have 7 km secondary range 

Alsace needs to angle 37 degrees to shoot full broadside

France needs to angle 33,5 degrees to shoot full broadside

 

Tier IX Alsace stats :

Spoiler

 

 

Tier X France stats :

 

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