Discussion thread for "some interesting info around the world"

[ForlornSailor]

13 minutes ago, Humorpalanta said:

Smoke meta -> Pan Asian DDs with so much smoke that they can hide in it for like 6 minutes totally invisible.

 

I was exactly having this thought in mind yesterday! But makes ofc sense, combines with the other things you listed.

[Perrinu]

1 hour ago, Historynerd said:

Aw... the Normandie's not here yet, but they have put it there, and the Aosta (which is here) isn't even on the list? 

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Eh, whatever. It's not like I would've picked it, if I'd been honest.

I have picked the New Mexico, the Stalward Standard! I shall never betray her! 

 

I don't think it'd be wise to have a competition about a ship that you have get in the premium shop as opposed to one that anyone can get in the tech tree.

Interesting to note is there is no Pan Asian Destroyer option.

[Verdius]

46 minutes ago, Perrinu said:

Interesting to note is there is no Pan Asian Destroyer option.

 

Nor is there any for US cruisers

[Perrinu]

1 hour ago, Verdius said:

 

Nor is there any for US cruisers

 

This is true. One assumes for the US cruiser shuffle with Cleveland going up to tier 8. It seems a lot might be happening in December. Emphasis on might.

[kfa]

12 hours ago, Humorpalanta said:

If there's 1 thing I love about WG is their humour. It's plain ridicolous. I can enjoy it finally now that i've left.

Problem    Solution

HE meta -> RN BBs with broken HE

Smoke meta -> Pan Asian DDs with so much smoke that they can hide in it for like 6 minutes totally invisible.

Too stronk and stealthy IJN torps -> Deepwater torps with impossible reaction time and strong hit.

Too many radar that DDs can't actually work -> Gives new DDs radar cos why not?

 

1. Alright the HE battleships are a bit stupid design, but it gets boring. I have the Conqueror but i prefer playing my Bismarck or Yamato, because they are more fun (although inferior to the RN counterparts).

2. Smoke meta is the thing of the past, i heard clans are thinking about topedo boosters instead of smokes. BBs cant hide in it anymore, CA staying still in it is a huge risk and DDs cant realy do meaningful damage from a smoke. I am not afraid of the Panasian pewpew from smoke...

3. I literally never heard anyone stating IJN torps/DDs are overpowered. (apart from 300 battles noobs in Derpitz)

4. I will pay you 500$ if play your Panasian DDs with radar and you get more winrate as any other of your DDs of the same tier....  They are exactly the same as radar Minotaur. Fun for 2 games maybe, then switch back to smoke.

[159Hunter]

34 minutes ago, kfa said:

I will pay you 500$ if play your Panasian DDs with radar and you get more winrate as any other of your DDs of the same tier....  They are exactly the same as radar Minotaur. Fun for 2 games maybe, then switch back to smoke.

@Humorpalanta let's division up and split this fee ( say 60 - 40 for you ? )

[MK1D]

1 hour ago, kfa said:

3. I literally never heard anyone stating IJN torps/DDs are overpowered. (apart from 300 battles noobs in Derpitz)

Shima was once cancerous for the game due to the wall of skill, but IJN line as a whole has benn underperforming for quite some time.

[kfa]

1 hour ago, MK1D said:

Shima was once cancerous for the game due to the wall of skill, but IJN line as a whole has benn underperforming for quite some time.

 

Once upon a time when Zao had the 20km Shima torps and the Kitakami was in the game as well as the 5 Torp squadron Hakuryuu? Yeah those were the fun times.

[Humorpalanta]

2 hours ago, 159Hunter said:

@Humorpalanta let's division up and split this fee ( say 60 - 40 for you ? )

Sorry, I left. It's an honorous offer from him but I don't want to play a game that I don't enjoy.

Good luck to you. Find someone and prove him wrong.

[DFens_666]

3 hours ago, kfa said:

1. Alright the HE battleships are a bit stupid design, but it gets boring. I have the Conqueror but i prefer playing my Bismarck or Yamato, because they are more fun (although inferior to the RN counterparts).

 

So this is valid for everyone? 27 players have >300 games in Conq already.

 

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2. Smoke meta is the thing of the past, i heard clans are thinking about topedo boosters instead of smokes. BBs cant hide in it anymore, CA staying still in it is a huge risk and DDs cant realy do meaningful damage from a smoke. I am not afraid of the Panasian pewpew from smoke...

 

So then why give them the ability to Perma Smoke? With more Smokescreens that other DDs aswell? Selfish play is only what this promotes.

[Historynerd]

14 hours ago, Perrinu said:

I don't think it'd be wise to have a competition about a ship that you have get in the premium shop as opposed to one that anyone can get in the tech tree.

Then what is the T-61 doing on the list?

[Perrinu]

1 hour ago, Historynerd said:

Then what is the T-61 doing on the list?

 

The more you look at the list, the less it makes sense.
I assume whoever made it googled "tier 6 German destroyer" because they're an IT worker not a player.

But, only ever speculation.

[JaiFoh]

so the T3 is a unified main armament danton class 

no one is surprised but the model looks good

[Historynerd]

7 minutes ago, JaiFoh said:

so the T3 is a unified main armament danton class 

no one is surprised but the model looks good

Looks to me like a modified version; the back wing turrets are on the quarterdeck, while the original 240 mm turrets were on the back section of the forecastle. It looks like they lenghtened the aft section to fit them.

[Chaos_Umbra]

2 hours ago, Historynerd said:

Looks to me like a modified version; the back wing turrets are on the quarterdeck, while the original 240 mm turrets were on the back section of the forecastle. It looks like they lenghtened the aft section to fit them.

It's fine there are other ships that are even more fantasy than just a major restructuring of the hull no problem at all.

 

Edit: Got a return Email on that poll saying the choice wasn't valid for the T-61 and that the list was updated and gave a link to re-vote, but it still said I had already voted and didn't work :(

 

Note: The Normandie was still on the list.

[Verdius]

1 hour ago, Azakeit said:

 

 

Wait... Does this mean Courbet gets 32mm bow and stern plating? At T4?

She would be immune to non-IFHE 152mm cruiser HE, in fact the only cruiser that can do so without a sealclubbing captain is Furutaka which is a tier higher, and she can only be overmatched by Yamato.

[AkosJaccik]

"Reload time of Duke of York's main guns is now 25 seconds; main gun accuracy increased from 1.8σ to 2.05σ; and she can now use Defensive AA Fire and Hydroacoustic Search consumables simultaneously."

 

Alright, this is getting f*cked up even with WG-standards. The ship itself might still come out "balanced" just based on the final statistics and it's also true that I am not aware of the other parameters of the dispersion, but six more months and initial classifications will mean absolutely zilch. "So, what main are you?" "Technically crusier." I know I am one of the loudest when it comes to inplementing "special" ships as premiums (I love the Atlanta & still waiting for the Tone), but not when it comes to making them "special"!

Plus yes, the 32mm plating  of Courbet will also be hilarious at T4. Imagine sitting in a St.Lo or a Boga, or especially in a Kolberg and this thing comes out with depleted superstructure HP. "Have fun, pr*ck!"

 

I get it that ships need to be sold / played and the more ships find their way into the game the harder it gets, but have we forsaken any guidelines, any clear vision? Of course, I should not be surprised at all, as it's not like the past did not lead clearly this way. It's also not like it won't continue this way.

 

Edit: I just remembered that parallel to this, Colorado loses it's 2.0. God is working in misterious ways.

[DFens_666]

31 minutes ago, AkosJaccik said:

"Reload time of Duke of York's main guns is now 25 seconds; main gun accuracy increased from 1.8σ to 2.05σ; and she can now use Defensive AA Fire and Hydroacoustic Search consumables simultaneously."

 

 

Cruiser in BB-mantle... Been wanting Hydro and DefAA for Cruisers for some time now, AND A BB GETS IT??! WTF SRSLY...

[eliastion]

A BB that's better at cruiser-specific things than cruisers. WTF, Wargaming.

[Comodoro_Allande]

With that sigma and reload... even a worse nightmare than normal KGV's at spaming HE from the edge of the map. And of course, def AA and hydro as a bonus 

[Exocet6951]

3 minutes ago, eliastion said:

A BB that's better at cruiser-specific things than cruisers. WTF, Wargaming.

 

*coughing awkwardly* 

Yes I agree, and I totally did not post any such message of agreement on the wrong topic.


BB with speed boost, now BBs with T10 cruiser sigma and DFAA + hydro.
I hope this i just an event BB, rather than a legitimate premium.

[Aragathor]

44 minutes ago, AkosJaccik said:

but have we forsaken any guidelines, any clear vision?

 

Since Victor Kislyi gave Lesta free hand in developing WoWs, yes. Right now ship development looks like monkeys with typewriters.

Just look at the Giulio Cesare getting a buff when it didn't need one...

 

 

[WashedandDeceased]

ST, French Battleship Gascogne, tier VIII

Hit points - 63200, plating - 32 mm, belt - 250 - 320 mm. Main battery - 2x4 380 mm. Firing range - 24.8 km. HE damage - 5400, AP damage - 11900. Reload time 30 s., 180 degree turn time - 36 s., maximum dispersion - 309 m. HE initial velocity - 830 m/s. AP initial velocity - 830 m/s. Sigma count - 1.8. Maximum speed - 32.0 kt. Turning circle radius - 850 m., rudder shift time - 15.3 s. Surface detectability - 16.2 km, air detectability - 13.8 km. Detectability after firing main guns in smoke - 15.4 km. Anti-torpedo defense damage reduction - 19%.

 

That dispersion? With this turret layout? Ermmm OK.. 

 

[Exocet6951]

2 minutes ago, Freyr_90 said:

ST, French Battleship Gascogne, tier VIII

Hit points - 63200, plating - 32 mm, belt - 250 - 320 mm. Main battery - 2x4 380 mm. Firing range - 24.8 km. HE damage - 5400, AP damage - 11900. Reload time 30 s., 180 degree turn time - 36 s., maximum dispersion - 309 m. HE initial velocity - 830 m/s. AP initial velocity - 830 m/s. Sigma count - 1.8. Maximum speed - 32.0 kt. Turning circle radius - 850 m., rudder shift time - 15.3 s. Surface detectability - 16.2 km, air detectability - 13.8 km. Detectability after firing main guns in smoke - 15.4 km. Anti-torpedo defense damage reduction - 19%.

 

That dispersion? With this turret layout? Ermmm OK.. 

 

 

The TDS says it all: that's just the base ST testing parameters.

 

 

[Darth_Glorious]

Richelieu had 314 m dispersion at 25.3 km, so the dispersion is about the same