Discussion thread for "some interesting info around the world"

[piritskenyer]

5 minutes ago, gekkehenkie50 said:

The CW reward ship thingy? Its a BB right?

 

Listed as TX CA

 

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[gekkehenkie50]

10 minutes ago, piritskenyer said:

 

Listed as TX CA

 

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my bad, havent really looked at it tbh. thought we would be getting more russian BBs

The way CW is looking I doubt it will get the hype WG was hoping for.

[creamgravy]

10 minutes ago, piritskenyer said:

 

Listed as TX CA

 

Now we can have 12 BB vs 12 BB 

 

[piritskenyer]

1 minute ago, creamgravy said:

 

Now we can have 12 BB vs 12 BB 

 

 

I'm really curious to see her. The way I see it, she's gonna be a female canine to balance as a TX CA, because there is no way in hell you can squeeze more than 4r/m of those guns. I'd say it's prolly more like 3 r/m, not even 4. Perhaps a TX Graf Spee, that is always top tier, but still... eh...

[fumtu]

So another glorious Soviet ship that would probably be OP comparing to other TX cruisers but that would be fine because it would be a rare ship. Great

[Allied_Winter]

CAUTION! The EU article is apparently - yet again - wrong! According to Sub_Octavian:

 

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Dear EU players! All CvC rewards ARE THE SAME FOR ALL SERVERS. So, the article seems to be broken. We will fix it soon. Sorry for the inconvenience.

 

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Seriously @MrConway this is now the umpteenth time that some higher up from WG EU or even WG RU has to correct the information given in the articles (and I'm not talking about the translation from English to another European language). And even the English one could've simply be copied from WG NA (and then only change the prime time). It's getting riddiculous... 

 

Edit: @Tuccy just confirmed that the (now previous) EU article was an old draft and that it is about (or already has been) corrected.

 

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Seems an old draft snuck up in the article, we are updating it at the moment with the correct version of the missions (which is, as said, the same for all servers). Sorry for the mixup :(

 

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At least NA, SEA and EU should get all the same rewards from either CB mission.

 

Greetings

[22cm]

Against ship rewards for clan wars. Most WoWs players are casual players.

[22cm]

36 minutes ago, fumtu said:

So another glorious Soviet ship that would probably be OP comparing to other TX cruisers but that would be fine because it would be a rare ship. Great

 

And because mostly unicum clans would get it. WoWs going the same WoT crap way.

[LilJumpa]

19 minutes ago, 22cm said:

Against ship rewards for clan wars. Most WoWs players are casual players.

 

15 minutes ago, 22cm said:

 

And because mostly unicum clans would get it. WoWs going the same WoT crap way.

 

Yes ofc. Free ship for every braindead pleb sailing the seas, counting tiny houses and trying to cross the mapborder and who plays 1 clanbattle.

 

You need to set incentives or this will go the same way temabattles did. Prem time and dubloons is not going to cut it since you can buy that and those Hydra etc. flags may be nice but are given out frequently.

[JaiFoh]

Clearly Wargaming thought that the Battleship Moskva needed competition and so instead those that "win" three seasons of clan Battles get a T10 Scharnhorst :P 

also no way could this have made it into the Russian Battleship line...180mm of main belt armour, the thickest armour on the ship was the conning tower at 250mm.....the Moskva's armour is 300mm on the turrets and barbettes, This is the Battlecruiser of the Russian Cruiser line that ends with the Moskva....clearly the very definition of Speed = Armour

PS: clearly there was a minor rebellion when the French beat the Moskva's gun calibre...this had to be fixed. 
 

[Verdius]

2 hours ago, gekkehenkie50 said:

The CW reward ship thingy? Its a BB right?

 

It is a battlecruiser but they will apparently make it a CA in game

[CptMinia]

7 minutes ago, Verdius said:

 

It is a battlecruiser but they will apparently make it a CA in game

https://imgflip.com/i/1xpbpo

[44smok]

Stalingrad? In three seasons which is what? 9-12 months? Still can't be bothered.

[Unintentional_submarine]

48 minutes ago, JaiFoh said:

Clearly Wargaming thought that the Battleship Moskva needed competition and so instead those that "win" three seasons of clan Battles get a T10 Scharnhorst :P 

also no way could this have made it into the Russian Battleship line...180mm of main belt armour, the thickest armour on the ship was the conning tower at 250mm.....the Moskva's armour is 300mm on the turrets and barbettes, This is the Battlecruiser of the Russian Cruiser line that ends with the Moskva....clearly the very definition of Speed = Armour

PS: clearly there was a minor rebellion when the French beat the Moskva's gun calibre...this had to be fixed. 
 

The main problem with this is that it sort of means Alaska will be T10 cruiser too, and B-65... and if they ever get to the Kronshtadt. Where is the cutoff? The O-class with 15 inchers? I mean she is armoured about the same, no way she can play BB right?

 

This is just making the game into BBs vs smaller BBs. We could do without that.

[Jethro_Grey]

1 hour ago, 22cm said:

 

And because mostly unicum clans would get it. WoWs going the same WoT crap way.

 

Yep.

The way it currently is implemented, the clan(s) with the most unicum players will get the ship while the rest will fight for the scraps.

There is no incentive for clans with no unicums - and lets face it, this applies to the vast majority - to go through the hassle of playing for all the marbles.

 

 

[Unintentional_submarine]

6 hours ago, Jethro_Grey said:

 

Yep.

The way it currently is implemented, the clan(s) with the most unicum players will get the ship while the rest will fight for the scraps.

There is no incentive for clans with no unicums - and lets face it, this applies to the vast majority - to go through the hassle of playing for all the marbles.

 

 

Honestly I wouldn't have minded if it was something like the Kitakami. A trophy ship, with little power outside of hilarious outplaying moments, but also a ship that is desperately needed to be out of the hands of the average player due to it's incredibly risky armaments. I would wager that Kitakami is a greater danger to the friendlies than the enemies in the hands of 95% of the playerbase. So an amusing bragship that has absolutely no competitive power anywhere, but can still be used in Randoms without crippling the team.

 

Mind you, it wouldn't have to be Kitakami, she just exemplifies the sort of ship that is the best as such a reward.

[LilJumpa]

14 hours ago, Jethro_Grey said:

 

Yep.

The way it currently is implemented, the clan(s) with the most unicum players will get the ship while the rest will fight for the scraps.

There is no incentive for clans with no unicums - and lets face it, this applies to the vast majority - to go through the hassle of playing for all the marbles.

 

 

 

Granted that the 1st flag (out of 3) for the Stalingrad is a bit tougher to get since you need 15 wins in Typhoon league.

But even that is doable for a mediocre clan that is active.

 

What is likely to happen: the better clans will move up to Storm on the first weekend, since you only need 4x25 points to move up a group. Make that 8 battles per group if you count in 2 losses.

The progress is tied to the clan and the competitive clans are likely to field at least 2 teams, which would make that 4 games per team to progress.

 

So the better teams will be out of the way in the first 2-3 weeks giving other clans the opportunity to do the same thing on the following weekends.

 

So during the course of a season a lot of clans can actually reach Storm and even Typhoon Group 1 getting most of the rewards which is not that scrappy: 2250 Dubloons, 30 days prem time, 20-25 each flags and lots of camos.

That is just for doing the Storm League rewards. If that is not an incentive, since the whole clan is getting that, I don't know what is.

 

Edit:

I just learned that each individual player has to have those wins to get rewarded. So it is indeed a lot tougher.

[WeGreedy]

6 hours ago, Unintentional_submarine said:

Honestly I wouldn't have minded if it was something like the Kitakami. A trophy ship, with little power outside of hilarious outplaying moments, but also a ship that is desperately needed to be out of the hands of the average player due to it's incredibly risky armaments. I would wager that Kitakami is a greater danger to the friendlies than the enemies in the hands of 95% of the playerbase. So an amusing bragship that has absolutely no competitive power anywhere, but can still be used in Randoms without crippling the team.

 

Mind you, it wouldn't have to be Kitakami, she just exemplifies the sort of ship that is the best as such a reward.

That's exactly my point of view on this. I mean, take a look at Flint and Black. Let's see how this always top tier Russian super-heavy cruiser will perform...

[fumtu]

15 hours ago, Unintentional_submarine said:

The main problem with this is that it sort of means Alaska will be T10 cruiser too, and B-65... and if they ever get to the Kronshtadt. Where is the cutoff? The O-class with 15 inchers? I mean she is armoured about the same, no way she can play BB right?

 

This is just making the game into BBs vs smaller BBs. We could do without that.

 

And it should be, it was a cruiser, technically at least. It can't be a battleship because it isn't, it has a (heavy) cruiser armour, it have AA that is great at TX and that would be f****** OP at lower tiers, its guns are too small and too few by T9-T10 BB standards even possibly at T8. Any lower than that it could be OP, especially as it could see poor T5 ships. Sorry but she belong to TX, TIX would be lowest acceptable tier. Same for Kronshtadt. They could be a really good cruisers but either underwhelming or overpowered BBs depending on which tier you put them.

[JaiFoh]

At least this makes it more likely that Musashi will be available for all (still expect T9 1.5mil free XP premium with as she is built as standard, so crap AA but much better secondaries)

as for the AA detection changes i like those ideas. 

[jss78]

On 10/13/2017 at 0:50 PM, Capra76 said:

Herein lies the problem, the ship isn't actually OP, it's just the whole idea of a HE spamming BB is just bad, but you can't fix that by nerfing the heal or changing the concealment, the only thing you can do is go back to the drawing board and start again.

 

Honest question though -- can't you just nerf the the HE ... a little bit?  Keep it as a national flavour, but so that it's less optimal to shoot it all the time and encouraging to use the AP more? To me WG often feels like they decide on these national flavours -- which is fine -- but tend to overdo them so that they become gimmicks.

 

As far as RN BB skill floor, that troubles me too. I don't think it's an accident though that they create these things so idiot proof. The risk was obvious after the German BB release, yet they proceeded to make another line that that's EVEN easier to play. This is not an accident, it's a pattern.

 

To me it feels like they want to make the game more accessible to the average player -- or more importantly to those guys who dabble with the game for a couple evenings, but don't stick around. So they create a couple lines of famous ships, REALLY easy to play. There's the obvious issue that CL/CA and DD's are massively more difficult to play, but if they want to create an easy entry point to the game, I guess these BB lines work as a minimally viable solution.

[PseudoMi]

This Stalingrad Tier10 premium will it be credit-wise pure premium ?

 

I mean will it be even better credit earner than Tier9 Missouri ?

 

I want to know if I can disband my Missouri for recovering its port slot. 

[fumtu]

20 minutes ago, PseudoMi said:

This Stalingrad Tier10 premium will it be credit-wise pure premium ?

 

I mean will it be even better credit earner than Tier9 Missouri ?

 

I want to know if I can disband my Missouri for recovering its port slot. 

 

Stalingrad will be reward premium for those who, while playing in CW, obtain CW's equivalent of Jolly Roger flag three times (CW rank 1?). At least by current information it won't be purchasable.  

[peachpest]

23 minutes ago, PseudoMi said:

This Stalingrad Tier10 premium will it be credit-wise pure premium ?

 

I mean will it be even better credit earner than Tier9 Missouri ?

 

I want to know if I can disband my Missouri for recovering its port slot. 

Really ?

 

You would sell the Missouri if the Stalingrad earns better credits you mean to tell me you have no others ships you can get rid off to make space for it ?, and why sell the Missouri anyway even if it does earn less I mean 1s a battleship and the other a cruiser totally different play style and its a whopping 1 tier difference I really don't see it earning much more anyway.

 

And more to the point you have to reach the top of grade 1 "At least" in 3 seasons and right now we have no idea how long a season will last for and the time frame between seasons so its a little early to be thinking about how much she will earn compared to to the Missouri.

[piet11111]

Really hate they are putting a ship behind such a barrier i did not like it with ranked and i dont like it for clanwars.