[SICK] Exocet6951 Weekend Tester 5,151 posts 11,809 battles Report post #6676 Posted September 17, 2017 "There can't be any worse decision than an uber HE spam BB line with improved heal" -Players "Hold my beer" -Wargaming 11 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POMF] Verdius Beta Tester 1,989 posts 4,247 battles Report post #6677 Posted September 17, 2017 WG and the quest for gimmicks pt 74: Radar DD line Now featuring such gimmicks as: Torps that can't hit DDs but supposedly are far more stealthy (than Japanese) Strong freedom guns (better than Japanese) Better concealment (than Japanese) American smoke on high tiers (which is.. I think you get the point) And now: radar All of this to create the ultimate c***er and make DD players even more frustrated! After the GZ debacle it was proven that no devs actually play CV that much Now I am starting to wonder if they ever play DDs... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Culiacan_Mexico Players 2,844 posts 14,993 battles Report post #6678 Posted September 17, 2017 19 minutes ago, mtm78 said: I have a replay somewhere of a 12v12 BB game on Tears of the Cruisers. ...all went to the same islands and began corner camping like usual... Blasphemer! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HMSR] Major_Damage225 Beta Tester 2,875 posts 7,295 battles Report post #6679 Posted September 17, 2017 Radar on DD's huh, i dont mind Black having it, that ship is one rare sight but this, a line with radar DD's Seriously, the devs get worse ideas every time, what are you smoking there, whatever it is its gone stale. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Kartoffelmos Alpha Tester 2,237 posts 8,884 battles Report post #6680 Posted September 17, 2017 But... but... deep water torpedoes cannot counter smoke so the PA DDs definitely need both radar and US smoke duration. Who needs a line with weaknesses anyway? It's not like the Z-52 will be rendered obsolete or anything with these new features... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[SCUMM] herrjott [SCUMM] Players 943 posts 22,067 battles Report post #6681 Posted September 17, 2017 WG balance department at work Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[__] Kais_S012 Beta Tester 742 posts 1,694 battles Report post #6682 Posted September 17, 2017 1 hour ago, Culiacan_Mexico said: ----------- NoirLotus News for pan asia DDs Hsien Yang, Chung Mu, and Hsiang Yang Gain surveillance radar consumable on slot 3 (engine boost). This new variant has fixed detection range at 7.5 km, and last 10 seconds, 12 seconds, and 15 seconds for Tier 8, Tier 9, and Tier 10, respectively. (For comparison, Black's surveillance radar has a detection range of 7.5 km and last 20 seconds.) -------------- what happened to focusing on the games prolific battleship problem @Sub_Octavian? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BLITZ] WeGreedy Players 3,005 posts 14,998 battles Report post #6683 Posted September 17, 2017 I am tired of writing long posts about WG's glorious (sarcasm!) ideas and why they are so freaking glorious (sarcasm!). So I will just state a big fat 'NO!' to more radar destroyers. In my opinion this is a destroyer nerf. edit MAYBE it could work if it would sit in the smoke slot. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TEA] Robber_Baron Players 1,322 posts 7,981 battles Report post #6684 Posted September 17, 2017 No ship in game should have access to both smoke and radar. Belfast should've been banned from the shop long ago. And hydro and radar should be cruiser only. The fact that they even consider it to DDs (and now silver DDs even) really makes me doubt if the developers actually play this game on a regular base. And of course we especially should do this to the least relevant DD line, because reasons. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TOXIC] Kartoffelmos Alpha Tester 2,237 posts 8,884 battles Report post #6685 Posted September 17, 2017 49 minutes ago, SeeteufeI said: MAYBE it could work if it would sit in the smoke slot. Depends on the concealment and the general firepower of the top-tier destroyers. If they can use radar for early damage (by team mates) and then finish their unfortunate target without problems later, the lack of smoke won't make that much of a difference. If carriers were more popular, maybe, but as things are now? Who will spot you (other radar users aside as that applies to all DDs) when you neutralise the opposing destroyer with relative ease? As I wrote earlier, these things may end up like Z-52 but without the range/concealment disadvantage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darth_Glorious Beta Tester 2,464 posts Report post #6686 Posted September 17, 2017 As expected Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[-AWF-] von_Boeg Players 1,207 posts 6,812 battles Report post #6687 Posted September 17, 2017 2 hours ago, shadowwolf9705 said: its not crying its facepalming, as Wg is doing stuff thats far beyond logic and just for info the campy meta comes from multiple sources from the BBs to the DDs to the matchmaking (team 1 4 radar Cruisers team 2 1radar 2 etc.) and especially a huge missing of Tutorials especially the later i mean WG should seriosly rework BBs like removing the super ACCuracy of the USS BBS or making the bowtankers mor vunlerable but well its wg Nah there is one reason and one reason only: They want to force us to play a line nobody wants. Yet again. They make that line OP with silly radar gimmicks and more players for the made-up ships. I will not play that line no matter what cr@p they throw at it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BYOB] Aragathor Players 7,047 posts 32,314 battles Report post #6688 Posted September 17, 2017 18 minutes ago, von_Boeg said: Nah there is one reason and one reason only: They want to force us to play a line nobody wants. Yet again. They make that line OP with silly radar gimmicks and more players for the made-up ships. I will not play that line no matter what cr@p they throw at it. Same, especially since it's not a line of ships that had an impact on history. It feels like WG has run out of ideas for the ship lines and is trying to cover everything with gimmicks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[PANEU] kfa Beta Tester 1,975 posts 13,875 battles Report post #6689 Posted September 17, 2017 Quote Long Jiang 500mm G/6 AV** deepwater torpedo's damage drcreased from 10600 to 9233; torpedo range decreased from 6 km to 5 km; 10.6% reduction to chance of flooding. These new deepwater torps seem really terrible, do they still only able to hit capital ships? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[HEROZ] GulvkluderGuld Players 3,467 posts 22,114 battles Report post #6690 Posted September 17, 2017 Didnt I get the news. RADAR? on an entire frigging DD line?? And better concealment than other dds too??? Might be the final nail in the coffin. I'm already moving away from playing DDs except for ranked. They should nerf HE on cruisers too and remove TB from CVs. Then BBs can finally have their own game! 1 hour ago, von_Boeg said: Nah there is one reason and one reason only: They want to force us to play a line nobody wants. Yet again. They make that line OP with silly radar gimmicks and more players for the made-up ships. I will not play that line no matter what cr@p they throw at it. Couldn't agree more. On a more serious note. Why not give the panasian DDs the old 20 km Shima torps? The ones from before the detection nerfs (but only 2x5 launchers). Before the screams come in consider: they actually will be able to HIT bbs from far away. These days it is almost impossible to get into torp range for BBs (gearing exempted). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #6691 Posted September 17, 2017 19 minutes ago, kfa said: These new deepwater torps seem really terrible, do they still only able to hit capital ships? Wait... what use are suicide deepwater torps? They expect DD's to charge BB's with them? Or am I mistaken and is that a tier 2 torpedo for a DD with 5km concealment? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TEAM_] Dampfboot Players 1,367 posts 11,386 battles Report post #6692 Posted September 17, 2017 Wow they seem to really have to force that line of DDs on players. Well, I will just stop playing DDs then which I have gotten to like quite a lot lately. Need to grind MEGAZAO anyway. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[XODUS] JaiFoh Players 799 posts 4,868 battles Report post #6693 Posted September 17, 2017 I'd only support radar on destroyers if it had 2 charges (premium) and around a 3 minute+ cool down Range and distance seem reasonable but if deep water torps will only hit BB's and some cruisers then they may need some anti DD capability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[TORAZ] El2aZeR Beta Tester 15,786 posts 26,801 battles Report post #6694 Posted September 17, 2017 I have no words, really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[BOTS] peachpest Beta Tester 208 posts 10,789 battles Report post #6695 Posted September 17, 2017 The more changes they make to these PA DDs the less I want to play them and I might just pass on the whole line at this point anyway. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[DREAD] 1MajorKoenig Players 13,110 posts 7,885 battles Report post #6696 Posted September 17, 2017 Radar on DDs is NOT a good idea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ZoidFile ∞ Players 569 posts 12,052 battles Report post #6697 Posted September 17, 2017 1 hour ago, 1MajorKoenig said: Radar on DDs is NOT a good idea You mean like HE shooting battleships was not a good Idea? 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
[POPPY] Chaos_Umbra [POPPY] Players 1,662 posts 20,300 battles Report post #6698 Posted September 17, 2017 30 minutes ago, ZoidFile said: You mean like HE shooting battleships was not a good Idea? Better than Radar + Def AA BBs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Culiacan_Mexico Players 2,844 posts 14,993 battles Report post #6699 Posted September 17, 2017 3 minutes ago, Chaos_Umbra said: Better than Radar + Def AA BBs... Russian BBs are next year. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mtm78 Alpha Tester 19,378 posts 6,105 battles Report post #6700 Posted September 17, 2017 You're forgetting their smoke generator Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
