Discussion thread for "some interesting info around the world"

[OVanBruce]

Do you really want all future CVs to be slightly modified Shokaku clones? That's basically what Fara proposed and I don't want that, I'd actually like for WG to bring out something new and interesting for CVs in the future instead. The fact that they are actually trying something different shows they actually care about CVs in this game more than people credit then for, otherwise they'd just do Shokaku variations and be done with it.

[Gojuadorai]

19 minutes ago, OVanBruce said:

Do you really want all future CVs to be slightly modified Shokaku clones? That's basically what Fara proposed and I don't want that, I'd actually like for WG to bring out something new and interesting for CVs in the future instead. 

 

that depends weather you want  

diffrent cv's which are comepetetive on the highest lvl  

or

some gimmicky crap that does only work cause ist so overtuned that it is OP.....

 

(difrend here means as diffrent as balancing alows which would probably be not much diffrent  when compared to "gimicky"  CV's like saipan or kaga)

[Boris_MNE]

Or just Nerf Shokaku hahaha!

[OVanBruce]

11 minutes ago, Gojuadorai said:

 

that depends weather you want  

diffrent cv's which are comepetetive on the highest lvl  

or

some gimmicky crap that does only work cause ist so overtuned that it is OP.....

 

(difrend here means as diffrent as balancing alows which would probably be not much diffrent  when compared to "gimicky"  CV's like saipan or kaga)

 

I don't care as long as the ship is fun to play and requires skill to be piloted. Wether that means it will be good or bad for """competitive""" is another story.

[avenger121]

18 hours ago, EsaTuunanen said:

Or was the issue that someone is still playing cruisers trying to burn down BBs and that must be corrected?

 

What about you playing a cruiser instead of spending 94% of your 6k matches with sealclubbing in the Gremyashchy, actively trying to drive newbies off?

[Redgecohones]

43 minutes ago, OVanBruce said:

Do you really want all future CVs to be slightly modified Shokaku clones? That's basically what Fara proposed and I don't want that, I'd actually like for WG to bring out something new and interesting for CVs in the future instead. The fact that they are actually trying something different shows they actually care about CVs in this game more than people credit then for, otherwise they'd just do Shokaku variations and be done with it.

 

I don't play CV's so I don't particularly care either way.

 

You'll note in my quoted post i said 'If' - (the 'when' was part of the hyperbole i mentioned)  - though Brit BB's (particularly Orion) atm....

 

My objection isn't to them trying something new or even the sometimes 'questionable', lets say, consequences of that.

 

It's to their (imho) awful business practises and the (again imo) lies *or half-truths* if you prefer used to cover it up.

[mtm78]

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[Capra76]

46 minutes ago, OVanBruce said:

Do you really want all future CVs to be slightly modified Shokaku clones? That's basically what Fara proposed and I don't want that, I'd actually like for WG to bring out something new and interesting for CVs in the future instead. The fact that they are actually trying something different shows they actually care about CVs in this game more than people credit then for, otherwise they'd just do Shokaku variations and be done with it.

 

I guess the problem is that CV are all about the planes so there's really not that many things you can do with them, they're either good at strike or good at air superiority, but that's already in the game so anything new is always going to be a clone of something.

[avenger121]

You mean the joys of being a whale and throwing money at WG every time you see a prem ship! :P
 

 

The old Gnewny at T5 was already pretty strong, there is a reason why I managed to do over 60% and 56k DPG despite the horrible turret traverse and a 2 point captain. The Gremyashchy is OP, starting with the doubled torpedo range in comparison to the old Gnevny, the better HE shell and the better maneuverability, add a high tier captain on that for more range, fire chance, better concealment, better RoF, bettet turret traverse .............. et voila, the perfect ship to club some seals.

[mtm78]

1 minute ago, avenger121 said:

You mean the joys of being a whale and throwing money at WG every time you see a prem ship! :P

 

I am quite sure this desire, while historically present, is currently dwindling. 

 

And yeah, I know, it's a nice ship  

 

 

[piet11111]

So wargaming doubling down on the gimmicks for graf zeppelin.

 

[Verdius]

1 hour ago, OVanBruce said:

Do you really want all future CVs to be slightly modified Shokaku clones? That's basically what Fara proposed and I don't want that, I'd actually like for WG to bring out something new and interesting for CVs in the future instead. The fact that they are actually trying something different shows they actually care about CVs in this game more than people credit then for, otherwise they'd just do Shokaku variations and be done with it.

Sure, but I also absolutely do not trust WG to get (CV) premium balancing right (looking at you Saipan and Kaga) and I'd rather have a 'boring' but balanced Graf Zep than a brokenly OP Graf Zeppelin that will never get nerfed because it is premium and will forever ruin T8.

[OVanBruce]

2 minutes ago, Verdius said:

Sure, but I also absolutely do not trust WG to get (CV) premium balancing right (looking at you Saipan and Kaga) and I'd rather have a 'boring' but balanced Graf Zep than a brokenly OP Graf Zeppelin that will never get nerfed because it is premium and will forever ruin T8.

 

The fact that we went from Kaga to Enterprise and then to the current state of Graf Zeppelin makes me believe they don't want that.

[HystericalAccuracy]

1 hour ago, mtm78 said:

I seen someone with 8k games in an Black Swan

8K is a lot. But i too did around 100 games in Orlan and 130 in Hermelin because they were just fun... till they stripped them off of AP.

[Gojuadorai]

2 hours ago, OVanBruce said:

I don't care as long as the ship is fun to play and requires skill to be piloted. Wether that means it will be good or bad for """competitive""" is another story.

 

with that opinion you will always end up in an environment where 1 CV is clearly the best and if you want to win there is no  reason to play another CV....

[Affeks]

3 hours ago, drmajga said:

8K is a lot. But i too did around 100 games in Orlan and 130 in Hermelin because they were just fun... till they stripped them off of AP.

Your post made me cringe. 

[Major_Damage225]

Hermelin + IFHE = AP not needed 

[lankylad11_lankylad]

6 hours ago, OVanBruce said:

Do you really want all future CVs to be slightly modified Shokaku clones? That's basically what Fara proposed and I don't want that, I'd actually like for WG to bring out something new and interesting for CVs in the future instead. The fact that they are actually trying something different shows they actually care about CVs in this game more than people credit then for, otherwise they'd just do Shokaku variations and be done with it.

no I don't.  But I do want US and IJN carriers to be balanced and to perform roughly equally.  unfortunately at the moment regular IJN CV's all out perform the USN regular CV's by a distance.  What the US CV's need is flexibility and lower servicing times

[mtm78]

Fara wants a competitive game where he can choose which carrier suits him the best for a given match up / map. 

 

Instead WG wants to give him another gimmicky CV which will work in randoms because plebs, but has no spot in competitive as the 'gimmicky' things are always something which can be countered. 

 

Wouldn't it be nice if you could see competitive games and see more as one nation's carriers being actually considered? 

[Boris_MNE]

Anyone else think that tier X suck for clan battles?

 

[OVanBruce]

2 hours ago, mtm78 said:

Wouldn't it be nice if you could see competitive games.

 

>World of Warships

>Competitive

 

Pick one and only one. You should know already than any semblance of true competition in this game was dispelled long time ago and for it to be again you'd need to change how halve the game works, CVs being the last part to be changed.

 

Honestly, I don't want new and interesting ideas to be shelved just because it doesn't fit """"competitive"""" gameplay.

[Darth_Glorious]

Giulio Cesare doesn't have -7% dispesion module. Shell accuracy is like cruiser 

Citadel is ~ at water level like Iowa/Montana

AP krupp value = 2600

[mtm78]

3 minutes ago, Darth_Glorious said:

Shell accuracy is like cruiser 

 

You mean even dispersion benefit isn't limited to babies anymore.. what a surprise   

[El2aZeR]

C'mon, we all knew it was just going to be a matter of time. It should hardly surprise anyone.

[1MajorKoenig]

I want sone of the crap these guys are smoking